Kevin Durant and King James speak on Old heads talking down on the new generation

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I’m sorry but that 2004 Lakers team was not a super team :mjlol:
EVERYONE in Los Angeles was calling it a superteam at the time. The media was too. The 2013 Lakers aren't the 2004 Lakers

These were their 2003 numbers going into that season:

Shaq: 28-11-3, 1st-team All-NBA, MVP candidate
Kobe: 30-7-6, 1st-team All-NBA, MVP candidate
Payton: 20-3-7, All-Star, 2nd-team All-NBA the previous year
Malone: 21-8-5, All-Star the previous year

Basically the equivalent of LeBron, AD, Westbrook, and Aldridge teaming up right now. Every single person who is fixated on this "super team" shyt would call that a super team.




It’s crazy how people tried to revise the NBA history and pretend Super Teams never existed till a decade ago:russ:
It's almost as old as the NBA. Wilt demanded trades to join teams with multiple HOF players twice.
 

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the reception definitely hasn't been ideal

I feel like they're going to need to scheme out a replacement show for that prime time slot before long man. nikkas starting to get tired of Charles, Shaq's constant hating has never been been liked, and I don't know if they'd be willing to just run it with Ernie and Kenny until they find a few more old heads. I'd prefer they go young, aka freshly retired blood, but it's up to them.

Finding some good orators in that T-Mac, Penny generation, would do something for them. Not too many big names from there that aren't coaching or doing something equally as intensive though. Vince....maybe you can throw the bag at Iverson. Rasheed Wallace?
What happened to that Area 21 segment? I think KG would be good on primetime. T-Mac already shown he could do it. Gilbert would be good.
 

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EVERYONE in Los Angeles was calling it a superteam at the time. The media was too. The 2013 Lakers aren't the 2004 Lakers

These were their 2003 numbers going into that season:

Shaq: 28-11-3, 1st-team All-NBA, MVP candidate
Kobe: 30-7-6, 1st-team All-NBA, MVP candidate
Payton: 20-3-7, All-Star, 2nd-team All-NBA the previous year
Malone: 21-8-5, All-Star the previous year

Basically the equivalent of LeBron, AD, Westbrook, and Aldridge teaming up right now. Every single person who is fixated on this "super team" shyt would call that a super team.





It's almost as old as the NBA. Wilt demanded trades to join teams with multiple HOF players twice.
Yeah there was 73-9 talk going into that season and they started 18-3 before the injuries hit.
 

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Retired NBA players taking shots at young players has a long, sad tradition.
Wilt Chamberlain took shots at a lot of players.

But today, I feel like Shaq is the most excessive with it.
And the most annoying thing about Shaq is that...why criticize? Why not be helpful and coach and teach? I mean if you know so much and were so much better and skilled than these young guys...use that to help them.

So many athletes think that being a jerk is "tough love" and that motivates players to do better. There's a big difference between holding a player accountable and being an a$$hole. A lot of these old guys criticizing are being a$$holes.
 

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Retired NBA players taking shots at young players has a long, sad tradition.
Wilt Chamberlain took shots at a lot of players.

But today, I feel like Shaq is the most excessive with it.
And the most annoying thing about Shaq is that...why criticize? Why not be helpful and coach and teach? I mean if you know so much and were so much better and skilled than these young guys...use that to help them.

So many athletes think that being a jerk is "tough love" and that motivates players to do better. There's a big difference between holding a player accountable and being an a$$hole. A lot of these old guys criticizing are being a$$holes.
Its one thing for Wilt to do it, but its another for a culture to be built around it.

wilt was a one off at his time. He wasnt on weekly telling folks how the game wasnt shyt.

i’ll never forget two years ago where Westbrook had a run of triple doubles and some hating ass reporter asked MJ a slanted ass question comparing Westbrook’s streak to his streak of ships.

NBA media culture is also trash
 

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This is an NBA issue not an old school player issue.

The NBA as a collective allowed this for so long, now the chickens have...well you know the rest.

Stop marketing stars over teams and you’ll fix the problem.

Also the players love the attention but only when it’s positive. Lebron being offended is laughable. He has something to gain with the players over teams narrative.

The players look soft because they are only concerned with a few media air heads rather than the millions who love them. Same thing that makes you laugh makes you cry.
 

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It's Professional Dirty Mackin

I stay from giving young people advance. I'm :old: at 43 and learned by trial and error. Let them do it too. Times where people here have turned on young players and I state simply "Let them figure it out"

I treat young people like Phil Jackson treated timeouts; let em figure it out on their own
i dont think there should be anything wrong with giving adivce

not to tell you what you should do, but if you see someone who needs help why not lend them a hand and give them advice.

The issue is the NBA has a hostile culture between generations, where older players love to talk shyt and belittle newer and younger players for example Shaq.

if more of the older players were self-aware, helpful, hell basically like Kobe, and Hakeem are. Then this wouldnt be a issue.

More Kobes and less Shaqs is what could heal this divide.
 
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i dont think there should be anything wrong with giving adivce

not to tell you what you should do, but if you see someone who needs help why not lend them a hand and give them advice.

The issue is the NBA has a hostile culture between generations, where older players love to talk shyt and belittle newer and younger players for example Shaq.

if more of the older players were self-aware, helpful, hell basically like Kobe, and Hakeem are. Then this wouldnt be a issue.
And AI.

he loves these young dudes, and the love THEY give him back? It is so visible
 

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Fat Shaq fuccked up. Why he dissing a dude like mitchell . That’s stupid. fukkk Shaq. Fucck Lebron he ain’t Jordan. He cryin and passively supporting kd biitch ass. Fucck the nba
 
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Plus they don't like how players have taken control of their destiny . Requesting trades and leaving to team up with each other.

Damn shame these guys want the rich white owners to have all the power :scust:

Shout-out to Bron, he said fukk that :wow:


All of this doesn’t apply to Shaq though.


Shaq was VERY well paid throughout his career and got to go to go EXACTLY where he wanted.


The hate is bullshyt. And quiet as kept Shaq been a lowkey hater of these young guys for a min. Him and Wade had issues towards the end of his time in Miami. He shytted on Dwight Howard for no reason. he shytted on McGee relentlessly for no reason. Now he’s trying to G check Donovan Mitchell on some bullshyt. Trying to embarrass him (after he had a pretty good game) publicly.




fukk Shaq. Go tell his blue lives matter loving ass to go chow down on some Papa John’s pizza
 
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