Kevin Durant hasn’t achieved anything after leaving Steph Curry: Shaq posts an IG mocking KD

[Professor Emeritus]

Gasol don’t belong in the same convo as these dudes. Dude got swept every year prior to Kobe lol

How can you say he doesn't belong in the same convo as those guys when he's had more accolades and done more as a #1 than Klay, Kyrie, or Draymond have? Gasol was leading shyt supporting casts to better playoff seeds than Kobe in 2005 and 2006. No one expected him to advance against stacked Suns and Mavs title contenders with Mike Miller as his #2.

In 2005 when Pau was just 24, he led his Grizzlies to 45 wins and a playoff berth with Miller, J-Will, Battier, and Lorenzen Wright as his supporting cast. In the playoffs they faced a Suns squad of Nash, Amare, Marion, Joe Johnson, and Quentin Richardson. How many games were they supposed to take off that fukking squad? Kobe lost to an inferior Suns team the next year (no Amare, no Iso Joe) and Kobe's #2 was better than what Gasol had.

In 2006 Pau's Grizzlies won almost 50 games with a starting lineup of 35yo Eddie Jones, Chucky Akins, Battier, and Jake Tsakalidis. THAT team was one win away from 50. That's a fukking achievement. In the playoffs they faced the Dirk-Terry-Howard-Stackhouse Mavs that went on to nearly win the title. Dirk averaged 31ppg on 51/42/87 shooting and 4 different Mavs scored more than Gasol's #2 (which was Jones at 10ppg). How the fukk was he supposed to be competitive there?

2007 Pau got hurt and Mike Miller was the #2 scorer for the season.

2008 gets traded to the Lakers

2009 outplays Dwight Howard in the Finals

2010 outplays Kevin Garnett in the Finals


If you drag those weak-ass lineups to the playoffs, you deserve credit just like Kobe got credit for reaching the playoffs in his lean years. If you outplay the other team's best player in back-to-back Finals, you deserve a shytload of credit.

Steph has never manned up the other team's best player in a Finals. Steph has never outplayed the other team's #1 head-to-head on both ends of the court. Pau has done it, twice. So give him some fukking credit.

 

[Cladyclad]

Gasol was leading shyt supporting casts to better playoff seeds than Kobe in 2005 and 2006. How the hell was he supposed to advance with Mike Miller as his #2?

In 2005 when Pau was just 24, he led his Grizzlies to 45 wins and a playoff berth with Miller, J-Will, Battier, and Lorenzen Wright as his supporting cast. In the playoffs they faced a Suns squad of Nash, Amare, Marion, Joe Johnson, and Quentin Richardson. How many games were they supposed to take off that fukking squad? Kobe lost to an inferior Suns team the next year (no Amare, no Iso Joe) and Kobe's #2 was better than what Gasol had.

In 2006 Pau's Grizzlies won almost 50 games with a starting lineup of 35yo Eddie Jones, Chucky Akins, Battier, and Jake Tsakalidis. THAT team was one win away from 50. That's a fukking achievement. In the playoffs they faced the Dirk-Terry-Howard-Stackhouse Mavs that went on to nearly win the title. Dirk averaged 31ppg on 51/42/87 shooting and 4 different Mavs scored more than Gasol's #2 (which was Jones at 10ppg). How the fukk was he supposed to be competitive there?

2007 Pau got hurt and Mike Miller was the #2 scorer for the season.

2008 gets traded to the Lakers

2009 outplays Dwight Howard in the Finals

2010 outplays Kevin Garnett in the Finals


If you drag those weak-ass lineups to the playoffs, you deserve credit just like Kobe got credit for reaching the playoffs in his lean years. If you outplay the other team's best player in back-to-back Finals, you deserve a shytload of credit.

Steph has never manned up the other team's best player in a Finals. Steph has never outplayed the other team's #1 head-to-head on both ends of the court. Pau has done it, twice. So give him some fukking credit.

U really hate Kobe. U making up shyt that I didn’t say lol

All I know is the guy never won a single playoff game. Got swept 3 times prior to Kobe

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

People need to accept KD is not a winner like Lebron or Jordan
People have legit wiped away half his career with OKC and made the excuse that he was playing with Westbrook but then give him all the credit for teaming up with steph and winning
Now there's no steph and he's back to losing like in OKC and people just trot out the same excuses "Oh kyrie and James are the problem", Injuries, Nash can't coach, etc

The problem is that he should have never been compared to those guys in the first place as he’s not that type of player, yet people insist on comparing everyone to MJ. It’s why basketball talk is so trash as everyone’s career is compared to the same player and considered a failure if they don’t meet that criteria.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

shaq next week "I'm just trying to motivate him. I have G16 classification check the resume"

It’s so corny and disingenuous when he does that. No one of.KD’s stature needs Shaq’s public motivation methods.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

U really hate Kobe. U making up shyt that I didn’t say lol

All I know is the guy never won a single playoff game. Got swept 3 times prior to Kobe

And that’s the bottom line to what you were saying, LOL.

 

[ball15life]

Boston was a completely different team (look at the numbers) than they were at the beginning of the season same as Brooklyn. Let’s also not forget that they were playing without Simmons who would have been helpful to their cause, which is a different story altogether.

Tell the entire story and not leave out certain bits and pieces to fit a narrative is my point.

Talk about fitting narratives....
The entire story is he left a team where he fit perfectly to lead a dysfunctional team with an unreliable #2 because he got into an argument. Yes the teams went down different paths but that doesn't change the fact that his playoff production was horrible this year.

Again I dislike Shaq's gatekeeping as much as anyone. I'm just saying he currently has a point.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Talk about fitting narratives....
The entire story is he left a team where he fit perfectly to lead a dysfunctional team with an unreliable #2 because he got into an argument. Yes the teams went down different paths but that doesn't change the fact that his playoff production was horrible this year.

Again I dislike Shaq's gatekeeping as much as anyone. I'm just saying he currently has a point.

It’s more than just the argument that caused him to leave and you’re full of shyt if you try and insist otherwise. The entire the time he was there people including Shaq gave him shyt and told him that his rings and GS meant nothing because he joined with Steph and Dray. Now same said people that complained, are giving him shyt and insinuating that he should have never left in the first place even when they played a part in what happened. People hyped up him playing with Kyrie, but are now saying that he should have never agreed to team up with him together.

Like I said, people should pick a KD stance and stick to it as that shyt comes off as hypocritical and disingenuous, but that’s NBA talk for you these days.

 

[VBM]

Gasol don’t belong in the same convo as these dudes. Dude got swept every year prior to Kobe lol

Phil really did work miracles taking a floundering guard and an underachieving big and turning them into champs :trollbron:

They lost to a more mature better team, the defending champs with one of the best centers ever in his prime surrounded by Clutch players like Robert Horry, Mario Elie, Kenny Smith, Clyde Drexler and a young Sam Cassell coming off the bench. Shaq did his part, they literally lost game one because Nick Anderson missed 4 free throws up 3 in the last 10 seconds. Some of you nikkaz should do some research before posting.

Dream was bailed out by Sean Elliott missing 2 FTs at the end of Game 1 (after he committed the potentially backbreaking turnover). Then on Horry's gamewinner, Rodman (who didn't even take part in the team huddle), left Horry alone on the ensuing possession. The "others" failed Admiral and Shaq while Dream's did their part.

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[DPresidential]

I mean...

 

[The_Third_Man]

why Shaq talk like a casual 15 year old nba fan on twitter?

 

[ball15life]

It’s more than just the argument that caused him to leave and you’re full of shyt if you try and insist otherwise. The entire the time he was there people including Shaq gave him shyt and told him that his rings and GS meant nothing because he joined with Steph and Dray. Now same said people that complained, are giving him shyt and insinuating that he should have never left in the first place even when they played a part in what happened. People hyped up him playing with Kyrie, but are now saying that he should have never agreed to team up with him together.

Like I said, people should pick a KD stance and stick to it as that shyt comes off as hypocritical and disingenuous, but that’s NBA talk for you these days.

Lol how strong is KD mentally? If he's strong enough to go there knowing there will be pushback then he could have stayed. He didn't have to listen to folks.

I personally never thought it would work with Kyrie. Especially when Steve became coach. So far it appears to not be working but time will tell

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Lol how strong is KD mentally? If he's strong enough to go there knowing there will be pushback then he could have stayed. He didn't have to listen to folks.

I personally never thought it would work with Kyrie. Especially when Steve became coach. So far it appears to not be working but time will tell

KD isn’t built with mental fortitude and you know that. Hell, the world isn’t either, so I’m not going to give him shyt for it. I’ve always maintained that he should have never left GS and fukked up listening to people that were going to give him shyt regardless. In no other sport do you see people talk shyt and downplay legacies in the way that people do towards the NBA.

It’s rather corny.

 

[Braman]

For a man, who was as dominant as he was, but still needed Kobe and Prime Wade for championships, he really shouldn't throw stones.

Man, what. Shaq can say whatever he wants.

Damn shame how this narrative that he just lucked up has ran off the rails. In large part from years of Charles Barkley jokes about ‘Kobe carried shaq’. Now mfers actually believing it

Any quality sidekick on that lakers squad and shaq’s career trajectory remains the same. If shaq just stays put in Orlando…his career trajectory remains the same. In an alternate universe if LA neve drafts Kobe and keeps van excel and Eddie Jones…Shaq’s career trajectory remains the same. It’s a damn shame how people have b*stardize Shaq’s career

But back to the topic… Shaq can throw as many stones as he likes. If the convo is around the elite of the elite in nba history, I ran a small room and he’s in it. In the VIP section. He can say whatever he wants.

 

[Kinguno]

Honestly I feel bad for KD especially when the Bay Area media was hating on him heavy before he came first because of the series and second they felt they had to protect Curry because of how the world was calling him a fraud for losing in 2016

It’s like when you don’t win they go out of their way to say it’s some character flaw and you shouldn’t be allowed to live. They want to see you crying and acting so hurt. But they forget these athletes have already been living and dying for this shyt before here

KD could’ve been like Beasley

also add in the dumb narrative like it’s a TV show it’s making it worse because as these new guys lose early we are already disqualifying them so when they win it doesn’t matter.

KD blowing his Achilles tells me all we needed to know about who was running that team at best those guys actually held back because they had KD or at worst they weren’t as good before so KD had to do more to the point his body gave out.

After Kobe died I thought we wouldn’t be so fukking stupid about how we talk about the best. Also COVID seasons are like two seasons and a half seasons in one. From protocols, more games in less nights, and dumb shyt like less time between seasons (71 days from the bubble finals ending to the start of the next season)

 

[cobra]

Basketball players get shyt on something crazy.

by their own peers
its pretty wild

you would never hear ARod shytting on mike trout like this
or Aikman shytting on Rodgers