Kevin Durant is better then Kobe ever was true or false?

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Just raw physical talent.....if I could be Durant vs. Kobe........I'd take Durant.

However, if KD had Kobe's "intangibles" and inner drive.......dude would have never left OKC. He would have forced Russ to bend to his will or knocked him upside the head until he did a la Michael Jordan with Scottie & Steve Kerr. Durant has #1 talent but is probably better off as a #2 because of his personality. Capable of being the #1 if he gets out of his own head.

 

[Bilz]

He has 5 rings...

So that's what it all comes down to now? "fukk the numbers, fukk 81, fukk 62 in 3, he's the best because his team wins. Word to Russell Wilson"

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

Bruh I literally posted the exact shooting numbers of every Kobe finals game.

They are highly underwhelming to say the least.

We were talking specifically about playoffs
This is what he wrote

Kobe was a great scorer and he played a ton of playoffgames...but LeBron, who is a playoff choker and useless beyond 3 feet according to our coli analysts, has significantly more playoff points than Kobe despite fewer games played. How can this be reconciled? How can the player heralded as the ultimate killer, the player who can beat you by himself, the player who elevates to zones greater than MJ, how does he not have an extensive collection of playoff feats? He has close to 3 full NBA seasons worth of playoff games. This isn't some small sample size that can be brushed off.

Playoff this, playoff that. Nikka first of all

2001 against SA: 33/7/7 on 51% “but but but but Shaq
2001 against Kings: 35/9/4 on 47% “but but but shaq”
2001 against blazers: 25/4/7 on 48% “but but but Shaq

2002 against SA: 26/5/4 on 45
2002 against Kings: 27/6/4 on 41%
2002 against blazers: 26/5/5 on 35%

2003 against SA: 33/5/5 on 43%
2003 against timberwolves: 33/5/6 on43%

Those are 3 sample sizes right there @Bilz, given they lost to the Spurs in 03

2008 against spurs 29/5/3 on 53%(damn Kobe used to cook your spurs that’s one thing that remained consistent and high during Kobe’s career)
2008 against Utah: 33/7/7 on 49%
2008 against Denver: 33/6/6/1.5/1.5 on 50%

2009 against Denver:34/5/5 on 48%
2009 against HOU: 25/5/3 on 45%
2009 against Utah: 25/5/7 on 46%

Was 2009 Playoffs leader in scoring

2010 against Suns: 33/7/8 on 52%
2010 against Jazz: 32/3/5 on 52%
2010 against OKC: 23/4/4 on 40%

2010 leading playoff scorer
Now getting to the finals
Finals
2000: 15 on 35%
2001:24 on 41
2002: 26 on 50%
2004: 22 on 31%
2008: 25 on 40%
2009: 33 on 43%
2010: 28 on 40%

Underwhelming FG% I could agree 100% but those were usually his FG% in scoring itself? No I disagree.

 

[Remote]

We were talking specifically about playoffs
This is what he wrote

Playoff this, playoff that. Nikka first of all

2001 against SA: 33/7/7 on 51% “but but but but Shaq
2001 against Kings: 35/9/4 on 47% “but but but shaq”
2001 against blazers: 25/4/7 on 48% “but but but Shaq

2002 against SA: 26/5/4 on 45
2002 against Kings: 27/6/4 on 41%
2002 against blazers: 26/5/5 on 35%

2003 against SA: 33/5/5 on 43%
2003 against timberwolves: 33/5/6 on43%

Those are 3 sample sizes right there @Bilz, given they lost to the Spurs in 03

2008 against spurs 29/5/3 on 53%(damn Kobe used to cook your spurs that’s one thing that remained consistent and high during Kobe’s career)
2008 against Utah: 33/7/7 on 49%
2008 against Denver: 33/6/6/1.5/1.5 on 50%

2009 against Denver:34/5/5 on 48%
2009 against HOU: 25/5/3 on 45%
2009 against Utah: 25/5/7 on 46%

Was 2009 Playoffs leader in scoring

2010 against Suns: 33/7/8 on 52%
2010 against Jazz: 32/3/5 on 52%
2010 against OKC: 23/4/4 on 40%

2010 leading playoff scorer
Now getting to the finals
Finals
2000: 15 on 35%
2001:24 on 41
2002: 26 on 50%
2004: 22 on 31%
2008: 25 on 40%
2009: 33 on 43%
2010: 28 on 40%

Underwhelming FG% I could agree 100% but those were usually his FG% in scoring itself? No I disagree.

You keep insisting on diminishing the impact and attention that Shaq commanded on the court. I can’t, for the life of me, imagine how you could possibly discount this.

Given that fact alone with the question of the quality of defenders Kobe faced, it would be expected by many that Kobe should have had significantly better and more efficient numbers than he actually did.

That seems to be what @The Dankster is implying.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

You keep insisting on diminishing the impact and attention that Shaq commanded on the court. I can’t, for the life of me, imagine how you could possibly discount this.

Given that fact alone with the question of the quality of defenders Kobe faced, it would be expected by many that Kobe should have had significantly better and more efficient numbers than he actually did.

That seems to be what @The Dankster is implying.

When did I discount Shaq? Myproblem is acting as if all credit should go to Shaq and diminishing Kobe’s role. What is the point of having a perimeter player to back up a big man? Mentioning dankster(who claims he has me on ignore anyways) to back you up won’t work either. The fukk you think was Tony Parker and Manus roles to back up your boy duncan? Also you play who is in front of you.
Much of those SGs, Kobe faced, also faced Wade and every other SG/SF in the league at that time Including your boy Manu so nikka please.

The point was about Kobe’s scoring, y’all implied Kobe wasn’t a high scorer and when the numbers say otherwise, now we goalpost moving to the quality of the defender. And??? Much of these teams that were low on quality at the SG/SF position, Lebron faced them as well so wtf you talking about? The 2000s were low on quality period so if we taking away credit from Kobe, we doing the same for Wade, and anybody else who faced weak competition at the SG position throughout the 2000s.
The same Nets y’all claim weren’t real competition for Those lakers, the spurs beat the following year and you spurs fans who claim Kobe shouldn’t be credited for beating that samenets turn around and praise spurs victory over those Samenets























Most importantly, Kobe seen his highest scoring after Shaq been gone

2008 against Utah: 33/7/7 on 49%
2008 against Denver: 33/6/6/1.5/1.5 on 50%

2009 against Denver:34/5/5 on 48%
2009 against HOU: 25/5/3 on 45%
2009 against Utah: 25/5/7 on 46%

Was 2009 Playoffs leader in scoring

2010 against Suns: 33/7/8 on 52%
2010 against Jazz: 32/3/5 on 52%
2010 against OKC: 23/4/4 on 40%

Where was Shaq? or is this the time where we goalpost move some more to act like Pau was Shaq-Lite?

 

[Sccit]

You're very stupid.

AKA I HAVE NOTHING TO SAY BECAUAS I LOST AGAIN LIKE MY HERO

 

[Sccit]

He has 5 rings...

“B-B-B-BUT THE BOX SCORES”

 

[Remote]

When did I discount Shaq? Myproblem is acting as if all credit should go to Shaq and diminishing Kobe’s role. What is the point of having a perimeter player to back up a big man? Mentioning dankster(who claims he has me on ignore anyways) to back you up won’t work either. The fukk you think was Tony Parker and Manus roles to back up your boy duncan? Also you play who is in front of you.
Much of those SGs, Kobe faced, also faced Wade and every other SG/SF in the league at that time Including your boy Manu so nikka please.

The point was about Kobe’s scoring, y’all implied Kobe wasn’t a high scorer when the numbers say otherwise now we moving to the quality of the defender. And??? Much of these teams that were low on quality at the SG/SF position, Lebron faced as well so wtf you talking about?
The same Nets y’all claim weren’t real competition for Those lakers, your fellow Spurs fans don’t repeat the same thing when they brag about the spurs beating those same Nets a year later.























Most importantly, Kobe seen his highest scoring after Shaq been gone

2008 against Utah: 33/7/7 on 49%
2008 against Denver: 33/6/6/1.5/1.5 on 50%

2009 against Denver:34/5/5 on 48%
2009 against HOU: 25/5/3 on 45%
2009 against Utah: 25/5/7 on 46%

Was 2009 Playoffs leader in scoring

2010 against Suns: 33/7/8 on 52%
2010 against Jazz: 32/3/5 on 52%
2010 against OKC: 23/4/4 on 40%

Where was Shaq? or is this the time where we goalpost move to act like Pau was Shaq-Lite?

You’re doing your best not to explain how a great player could shoot so poorly and inefficiently while having the most dominant, constantly double teamed player ever on the floor with him.

 

[Sccit]

Word to Russell Wilson"

YOUR MENTAL ILLNESS IS EXPOSIN ITSELF

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Kobe kicked his 1st Ballot Hall of Fame teammate off the team, to prove his could win titles without him.

Durant joined a 1st ballot hall of famer because he felt he couldn't win titles without him.

Kobe's heart alone, is better than any basketball attribute possessed by Durant.

Then why did Kobe demand a trade before Pau got there?

 

[Sccit]

You keep insisting on diminishing the impact and attention that Shaq commanded on the court. I can’t, for the life of me, imagine how you could possibly discount this.

Given that fact alone with the question of the quality of defenders Kobe faced, it would be expected by many that Kobe should have had significantly better and more efficient numbers than he actually did.

That seems to be what @The Dankster is implying.

KOBE CONSISTENTLY WENT UP AGAINST RUBEN PATTERSON, BRUCE BOWEN, DOUG CHRISTIE... AND YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO QUESTION THE DEFENSES HE FACED IN THE PLAYOFFS? LMAO

 

[Remote]

KOBE CONSISTENTLY WENT UP AGAINST RUBEN PATTERSON, BRUCE BOWEN, DOUG CHRISTIE... AND YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO QUESTION THE DEFENSES HE FACED IN THE PLAYOFFS? LMAO

I wonder who locked him down to the tune of shooting .412 in 37 finals games.

 

[Sccit]

Then why did Kobe demand a trade before Pau got there?

BECAUSE HE WANTED TO PLAY ON A PASSABLE NBA ROSTER, NOT A HALL OF FAME SQUAD.

 

[Sccit]

I wonder who locked him down to the tune of shooting .412 in 37 finals games.

IT WAS HIS 5 RINGS WEIGHING HIS FRACTURED FINGERS DOWN

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

You’re doing your best not to explain how a great player could shoot so poorly and inefficiently while having the most dominant, constantly double teamed player ever on the floor with him.

You never asked to explain it. You said

Bruh I literally posted the exact shooting numbers of every Kobe finals game.

They are highly underwhelming to say the least.

I actually agreed, Incase you pretend to have missed it

Underwhelming FG% I could agree 100% but those were usually his FG% in scoring itself? No I disagree.

The problem is you jumped into a argument where me and Bilz was arguing about Scoring ppg not Fg% and you also dapped his post agreeing with him about Kobe’s ppg, not FG%
So I’m in belief that you agreed with him, and proceeded to fact check both of you

You done jumped from FG, to Shaq opening up doors for Kobe’s scoring ppg, back to FG%. Nikka pic a subject to stick to. You know I’m right and I know it as well so let’s not. I never once disagreed about FG% either. Refer back to my first post quoting you Incase you pretend to be blind