Kevin Love

[Texas2step]

HE is a stat padder still and has no impact on the game. I've seen this fraud leave his defensive assignment to stand under the basket waiting for the rebound. No one is afraid of him and if he was to ever make the playoffs, I dont think he would even avg 10 pts a game

 

[Houston911]

This awesome team you speak of was the same one that won 17 games before melo right? Melo arriving, resulting in one of the greatest year-to-year improvements in league history, was just some sort of coincidence. Obviously.

The team melo played with his rookie year was not the same as the squad that won 17 games

 

[No_bammer_weed]

The team melo played with his rookie year was not the same as the squad that won 17 games

It wasnt radically improved from the year before either, outside of the addition of Melo, unless we want to play a game of how bad can we overrate Andre Miller here.

 

[WaddupDoe!]

hes trash on my 2k team

 

[Houston911]

It wasnt radically improved from the year before either, outside of the addition of Melo, unless we want to play a game of how bad can we overrate Andre Miller here.

If a rookie melo can turn a team from 19 wins to playoffs, why has he had so little success in the playoffs?

 

[No_bammer_weed]

If a rookie melo can turn a team from 19 wins to playoffs, why has he had so little success in the playoffs?

He did turn a 17 win team into a playoff team as a rookie. Thats a fact. So whatever type of thesis you're trying to support, you have to include that variable, plus his consistent success as a nugget and the fact that he turned around the knicks (this year's disaster of a season none withstanding) into your factors of analysis. Love has been the league since 2008, and we have seen zero evidence that he is a winning ballplayer. None.

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

He did turn a 17 win team into a playoff team as a rookie. Thats a fact. So whatever type of thesis you're trying to support, you have to include that variable, plus his consistent success as a nugget and the fact that he turned around the knicks (this year's disaster of a season none withstanding) into your factors of analysis. Love has been the league since 2008, and we have seen zero evidence that he is a winning ballplayer. None.

a decontextualized, misleading fact.

allow me to add some context: the 2002-2003 Denver Nuggets were intentionally and deliberately trying to lose as much games as humanely possible.

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

It wasnt radically improved from the year before either, outside of the addition of Melo, unless we want to play a game of how bad can we overrate Andre Miller here.

two simple yes or no questions:

1. is Dre Miller an upgrade over Junior Harrington?

2. do you even know who Junior Harrington is?

 

[big bun]

He's a top 5 player today.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

two simple yes or no questions:

1. is Dre Miller an upgrade over Junior Harrington?

2. do you even know who Junior Harrington is?

You're posing a convenient question in a restrictive way, in order to formulate a conclusion that is pre-destined in your mind. Of course Dre is an upgrade of Junior Harrington, but this Dre miller you speak of --- who has now reached mythic proportions around here in short order, was the starting pg for the cleveland cavs in the late 90s and early 2000s before arriving in Den; what was the cumulative record with him running the point for the cavs all those years? Miller was the real difference, and Love hasnt played with a considerable talent like Dre Miller?

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

You're posing a convenient question in a restrictive way, in order to formulate a conclusion that is pre-destined in your mind. Of course Dre is an upgrade of Junior Harrington, but this Dre miller you speak of --- who has now reached mythic proportions around here in short order, was the starting pg for the cleveland cavs in the late 90s and early 2000s before arriving in Den; what was the cumulative record with him running the point for the cavs all those years? Miller was the real difference, and Love hasnt played with a considerable talent like Dre Miller?

no worse than the Knicks current trajectory this season.

see how easy it is to play this game, breh?

 

[No_bammer_weed]

no worse than the Knicks current trajectory this season.

see how easy it is to play this game, breh?

Melos cumulative record as a player is considerably better, and far more accomplished than Andre miller. If you dont want to take your opinions seriously, then I will certainly follow suit.

 

[Houston911]

He did turn a 17 win team into a playoff team as a rookie. Thats a fact. So whatever type of thesis you're trying to support, you have to include that variable, plus his consistent success as a nugget and the fact that he turned around the knicks (this year's disaster of a season none withstanding) into your factors of analysis. Love has been the league since 2008, and we have seen zero evidence that he is a winning ballplayer. None.

Did you have league pass?

Were you actually watching the nuggets games or are you just repeating what people were saying?

If a rookie is impactful enough to turn a 19 win team into a playoff squad, how does that player have so little post season success in a ten year career?

Ignoring Andre miller and a healthy Marcus camby to give praise to melo is silly....especially when you look at the lack of success a rookie lebron had, and he was better than melo

 

[Ritzy Sharon]

Melos cumulative record as a player is considerably better, and far more accomplished than Andre miller. If you dont want to take your opinions seriously, then I will certainly follow suit.

 

[No_bammer_weed]

Did you have league pass?

Were you actually watching the nuggets games or are you just repeating what people were saying?

If a rookie is impactful enough to turn a 19 win team into a playoff squad, how does that player have so little post season success in a ten year career?

Ignoring Andre miller and a healthy Marcus camby to give praise to melo is silly....especially when you look at the lack of success a rookie lebron had, and he was better than melo

You didnt address my post you responded to, and instead plowed through with your agenda.

You're calling me silly, yet you keep trying to give the credit for the nuggets turnaround to Miller and Camby, two role players who have never been all stars and who both had okayish years during the discussed year in question, and not the focal point of the offense. You would have a point if Melo's body of work bore out that he was an losing ballplayer, and that his rookie year was some aberration (owed to the stellar play of Miller and camby, lol)

As far as his playoff record, many of those teams he played were elite championship level teams, who either won it all or played in the finals... his teams were severely undermanned and had no real shot. There were only a couple of playoff series where one could make the case that his teams underachieved.