Kevin Samuels was right

[NO-BadAzz]

I actually think they should be given to their dads after 7. The question is do deadbeats want to take care of the children they’ve made? If they did, wouldn’t they already be involved? Why won’t more of these fathers come to take their kids? Or go to court to fight for custody? The parent who stays gets a lot of smoke, but if she left, would the daddy step up if he’s not stepping up now? Every man I know who wants to be a parent with their child, even if they aren’t with the mother, are involved with their kids, because they make that a priority. They fight for their kids. The men who aren’t involved? They’re not trying to be.

In this made-up scenario yes, all single mothers need to hand over their black boys to their dad. Aint shyt ones and all. They are now forced to see after the child 95% of the time, instead of being "weekend dads". Maybe having their black son 95% of time will put some straightenin into the dead-beat dads (again it says a lot about a woman who picks a dead-beat dad more than anything instead of marrying the man before having the kid with a dead-beat dad, she'll know if he's a dead-beat if she would have married him first before having a baby). Women create dead-beat dads by not marrying first

I believe that it would change the dead-beat dad if that man had to care for his child 95% of the time.

More fathers won't do such thing is because the mother stops them from coming to take care of their kids in many cases or make if difficult, most men don't want to go through all of the BS (now there are some aint shyt men, but again, that goes back to the woman picking this scum and procreating with him), some mothers use their child or children as a weapon to control the dude, keep him from seeing other women once their relationship is over. Some mothers are vindictive towards the man, but all that would be cut out if this law was upheld. The boy is going with the father after the age 7 anyway until he reaches 23.

Even in some case when those men who take care of their children, the mother still "tries" to control the situation and at times give that dad a hard time. It plays out more if the dad is with another woman and she's still single. Being Vindictive would be gone or at an all-time low if the law stated that ALL single mothers with boys hand over their boys after the age of 7

I believe black men 20-30 years would be in better state.

How can I say that most women are vindicative, peep out the attitude of most women who have kids, snarly, manipulative, masculine, many talk in a negative light about the kid's or children father. They talk bad about men, even the good ones lol. You just smh, smash and move along

 

[YouMadd?]

Kevin Samuels was effective because his message was so redundant that even now that he’s passed, all of his points have been addressed. He released an entire anthology that will live on. He’ll be haunting these leftover women forever

 

[Boxchevy]

I have a question:

Would black boys be better off in society, reading skills, more structured, more disciplince if they went with their fathers after the age of 7, if they were around their fathers 90-95% of the time up until they've moved out. If there was a law where it stated that single mothers that have black boys have to give their boys to live with their dad after the age of 7, how would the state of black men be in the next 20-30 years? It's on the Father to raise the boys up until he becomes 23.

Most black men do not want their children full time.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

It doesn’t trump my point. I guess I’ll stay away from the 80%

The same Black Women who looks to BM she’s not related to for guidance or assistance? The same ones asking for strangers to mentor her sons? It’s a failed Patriarchy breh.

You said in one post BW need to step up, then stated their lack of fathers or male figures is the reason. Cool, I agree.

BUT THEN when I say we should focus on ourselves and Black Boys and uplift each other to remedy that… you then go back to BW being the issue.

Asking 'strangers' to mentor her son? Where's the son's father?? Why not ask the son's father

Why not marry before you carry so you don't have to ask strangers to mentor your son, if the woman married before having the son, the boy wouldn't need a mentor at the age of 6, his father would be there to lead and guide him


I stated that BW need to marry before they carry, that's called Life, our ancestors did it, and if you don't, you take on the responsible that comes with pre-marital sex. You put yourself in position and the kid of having a dead-beat father, mentorship from strangers etc.

You can do all the mentoring you want breh, and I salute that, but there's nothing like a black boy or daughter having it come from their own father.

You keep saying focus on ourselves, then you say that everybody won't be saved in your earlier post?

I took that and said that the women are procreating BEFORE marriage with the ones who are not saved, "the suspects" as you called them, and then later on they are looking at for "the outstanding" black men or the ones who has worked/fixed themselves up to mentor their sons that they created with the "suspects or the black men that are not saved" You didn't understand this point.

As you said, all the black men, won't be saved, so how can you stop the black women from procreating with the ones that are not saved? or "outstanding"?

Who's choosing to have babies out of wedlock instead of getting married? Black men or Black Women

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Most black men do not want their children full time.

I disagree. But if there was a law would black boys be better off than what they are NOW, or would they be in much a better shape 20-30 years now if the men were to have them after the age of 7 95% of the times, made all the decisions, etc.

 

[Unfiltered]

Really. That’s crazy. Why didn’t she go to the hospital with him or go to his funeral? She was acting like they weren’t close like that, and I heard she was charging money if people wanted more insight from her on her relationship with him.

It seems like she was after his $ and clout for the most part. Now I know I’m not supposed to say that, but her actions seem strange for a woman who was close to being engaged with him.

I’m just glad his black daughter and mother got whatever money he had left over, instead of spicy gold digging becky.

He was right about some things, and other things he was clearly trying to be controversial for clicks and subscribers. It worked. But during his reign, his content further divided Brehs and brehettes.


I’ve noticed that the increase in the divisiveness that I saw during his peak, has since simmered down to what it was before his content became popular, since his death. @Booksnrain @Gloxina @Hazel Brown @13473 @Peachstate and all other females that actively post on here, have y’all noticed the simmering down too?

I agree..

I think Kevin was right on some, wrong on the other but my only disagreement is the "high value" stuff when most men aren't high value, average income of like 45k a year that's barely enough for a place and a new honda civic.

I think at the end of the day he created this "high value" to draw attention then spoke to women on some everyday life stuff which women who seek his content clearly aren't trying to be a part of.

He hustled internet people really but sprinkled in alot of truths about people's choice but still a hustle that made him alot of money.

 

[Gloxina]

I can't let you sit up here and do this, the reason why many BW got screwed is because their mother did not marry before she carried. Even in case of a divorce to happen, there's a small small % of men who will just abandon his children after the divorce, if a divorce was to take place. Men during marriage and after marriage are strongly connected with their children and want to be in their children lives, Husbands don't leave their children.
Baby Daddies do. Women need to stop creating Baby Daddies, Marry before you Carry

Let's just put it out there, if a woman decides to lay down with a man BEFORE she gets married and gets preggo, then she has to deal with whatever comes from that procreation. She is playing the lottery with her life and her future kid or kids.
You get whatever comes from having pre-marital sex.

Women under no guidance of a man makes stupid decisions with her love life. Just like boys need fathers, girls need fathers also, so they can understand men. You can't understand men from a woman. You need a father to teach you how men are.
Most women will place men in a negative light, which jades the little girl. Women are taught, especially black women, they don't need a man, and who is that being taught by? a woman and gay men.

This has nothing to do with black men and "sweet nothings" or whatever stuff you're implying. The wiring has to be changed. Even reading your post, your "wiring" is not aligned with reality.

We are saying the same thing LMAO

These women got knocked up out of wedlock and got stuck Marriage is necessary because that shows a man is serious about creating a family with you.
That’s why marriage is necessary.
I LITERALLY said that.

Morally, yea man, a dude SHOULD stick around for his kid, even if he didn’t marry the mom. But the POINT is he doesn’t have to, so girls have to understand WHY marriage is protection. A 20YR old who falls in love with some dude who says all the right things gets a wake up call from dad, grandpa, big bro, uncles, etc.

A 20YR old who falls in love with some dude who says all the right things who just has a mom looking at her with contempt and saying “oh she’ll learn like I did” is ASSED OUT in the game.

This is my only point. These black girls are growing up without the proper structure and guidance and make the same mistakes, only to hit adulthood and see all the girls who were groomed for marriage from a young age making all the right moves.

You got men out pissed off that the brehs who are successful are running through women, realizing while they were playing sports and video games and running the streets the guys they thought were lame now have advanced degrees and the fly girls who are on game are chasing the successful guys. A man can realize he’s messed up in the game, get a degree or some certs and clean it up by 40/45, multiple kids and all. Women CAN’T. By that point we’re forced out the game. It’s just that it’s more critical for women. But what happens when you don’t come from an environment where you’re taught these things?

This is why white culture turns a blind eye to white girls going wild from HS- about 23,24,25. As long as they don’t show up pregnant or get too old, it’s all “fair game”. They excuse them wilding out within that short window. Then their mothers slap them into shape and their fathers tell them to marry before they get too old. Plenty of threads on this board about how wild and easy white women are— because they have a strategy. Wild out and clean it up by a certain point. And if it’s under the auspices of college life, even better! Black girls have NO strategy or game plan out here, which is why things look the way they do.

This is why I don’t fault the Lori and Marjorie’s of the world. They made it too obvious, but THAT is how girls of other races (or Black girls with game) are taught to move. Shoooooo one of my girls married a successful surgeon and it spending her time traveling across Europe as a SAHW. She said “yea, he thought I didn’t know he was dating some other girls, but I knew. I played it cool and did what my mom told me.” He dropped the other broads and proposed to my girl. That is usually the case. But there’s a reality to this shyt that was lost with Black girls in the last couple generations. This shyt was understood back in the day. Even if it was just keeping up appearances, you did to secure marriage and your future within a certain window.

If more Black girls actually grew up seeing a man be responsible for them and their mothers/families, they wouldn’t dare mess up their futures with bums. You have a lot of girls who don’t know how to pick a man because those lessons are generational.

You got grown ass women out here who have literally never been COURTED. No one actually chooses that shyt. Lmao You got Black girls coming up expecting the worst because they’ve been raised in environments where they didn’t actually learn what a good guy is and WHY he is necessary in their lives.

 

[Gloxina]

I agree..

I think Kevin was right on some, wrong on the other but my only disagreement is the "high value" stuff when most men aren't high value, average income of like 45k a year that's barely enough for a place and a new honda civic.

I think at the end of the day he created this "high value" to draw attention then spoke to women on some everyday life stuff which women who seek his content clearly aren't trying to be a part of.

He hustled internet people really but sprinkled in alot of truths about people's choice but still a hustle that made him alot of money.

That was my main point of contention. Most men, in general aren’t “HVM”, so you’re telling a bunch of women what to do to qualify and why they don’t qualify, when even if EVERY Black girl 18-30 was qualified for a well-off man, THEY WOULDN’T GET ONE. So you’re telling women to get it together to qualify for men they will never meet or ACTUALLY lock down

There should have been discussion based on people coming together, meeting in the middle and sacrificing to get the community back on track.

Most men are average. Most women are average. If you start the conversation there, we can all realize that we are all pretty much on the same level and pair off from there.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

We are saying the same thing LMAO

These women got knocked up out of wedlock and got stuck Marriage is necessary because that shows a man is serious about creating a family with you.
That’s why marriage is necessary.
I LITERALLY said that.

Morally, yea man, a dude SHOULD stick around for his kid, even if he didn’t marry the mom. But the POINT is he doesn’t have to, so girls have to understand WHY marriage is protection. A 20YR old who falls in love with some dude who says all the right things gets a wake up call from dad, grandpa, big bro, uncles, etc.

A 20YR old who falls in love with some dude who says all the right things who just has a mom looking at her with contempt and saying “oh she’ll learn like I did” is ASSED OUT in the game.

This is my only point. These black girls are growing up without the proper structure and guidance and make the same mistakes, only to hit adulthood and see all the girls who were groomed for marriage from a young age making all the right moves.

You got men out pissed off that the brehs who are successful are running through women, realizing while they were playing sports and video games and running the streets the guys they thought were lame now have advanced degrees and the fly girls who are on game are chasing the successful guys. A man can realize he’s messed up in the game, get a degree or some certs and clean it up by 40/45, multiple kids and all. Women CAN’T. By that point we’re forced out the game. It’s just that it’s more critical for women. But what happens when you don’t come from an environment where you’re taught these things?

This is why white culture turns a blind eye to white girls going wild from HS- about 23,24,25. As long as they don’t show up pregnant or get too old, it’s all “fair game”. They excuse them wilding out within that short window. Then their mothers slap them into shape and their fathers tell them to marry before they get too old. Plenty of threads on this board about how wild and easy white women are— because they have a strategy. Wild out and clean it up by a certain point. And if it’s under the auspices of college life, even better! Black girls have NO strategy or game plan out here, which is why things look the way they do.

This is why I don’t fault the Lori and Marjorie’s of the world. They made it too obvious, but THAT is how girls of other races (or Black girls with game) are taught to move.

Shoooooo one of my girls married a successful surgeon and it spending her time traveling across Europe as a SAHW. She said “yea, he thought I didn’t know he was dating some other girls, but I knew. I played it cool and did what my mom told me.” He dropped the other broads and proposed to my girl. That is usually the case. But there’s a reality to this shyt that was lost with Black girls in the last couple generations. This shyt was understood back in the day. Even if it was just keeping up appearances, you did to secure marriage and your future within a certain window.

If more Black girls actually grew up seeing a man be responsible for them and their mothers/families, they wouldn’t dare mess up their futures with bums. You have a lot of girls who don’t know how to pick a man because those lessons are generational.

You got grown ass women out here who have literally never been COURTED. No one actually chooses that shyt. Lmao You got Black girls coming up expecting the worst because they’ve been raised in environments where they didn’t actually learn what a good guy is and WHY he is necessary in their lives.

Ok. I saw you wanting both the man and woman sharing equal accountability on the path of single motherhood. I disagreed and said, the choice that women make in men before marriage leads them down that path.

Marriage protects you from all of these things in a sense.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

That was my main point of contention. Most men, in general aren’t “HVM”, so you’re telling a bunch of women what to do to qualify and why they don’t qualify, when even if EVERY Black girl 18-30 was qualified for a well-off man, THEY WOULDN’T GET ONE. So you’re telling women to get it together to qualify for men they will never meet or ACTUALLY lock down

There should have been discussion based on people coming together, meeting in the middle and sacrificing to get the community back on track.

Most men are average. Most women are average. If you start the conversation there, we can all realize that we are all pretty much on the same level and pair off from there.

He said all of this. The women want the top 15%-10% of the men. That' why his content is still alive today and will be until they erase it, most women want these men and men know this, but these women don't know what these men want that's why they can't (keep) us black men.

This is what he was telling these women, you want these men, but these men want something, and you don't have it, get and build with an average man, these are good men too, but these women called it settling and left away sadden or defeated.

When a kid is told no to something they want, and think they should have it, they are going to keep asking and coming back asking until they get, and when they can't get it, they start to have a disdain for their parents, like how some women and some men had a disdain for KS.

He gave you the list of what most of these men want, and many didn't/don't qualify but they think they did and do smh.

He said, average ppl get with average ppl. Even went so far to comparing it to colleges, you have average people that attend state schools, you have some that attend community colleges/JUCO but you have special people that attend your Harvards and Yales etc.

You're a C student (average) trying to get into Harvard smh Lol. Stop it. The man told the truth to these women, and they hated it,

 

[ItzRailT]

Sad ish to watch but you know what the dudes on her level she probably wouldn’t give the time of day too.

 

[RaspberryFitted]

Asking 'strangers' to mentor her son? Where's the son's father?? Why not ask the son's father

Why not marry before you carry so you don't have to ask strangers to mentor your son, if the woman married before having the son, the boy wouldn't need a mentor at the age of 6, his father would be there to lead and guide him

That’s the fukking point I’m making! We are in a FAILED PATRIARCHY because women still need Men for their sons and daughters.

You keep babbling about BW “running” the household.. they aren’t running shyt that’s the issue.

You keep saying focus on ourselves, then you say that everybody won't be saved in your earlier post?

Yes it’s called life. Focus on us, uplift the boys in our immediate community, and the effect will trickle down. Those who don’t catch on will die off.

This is the definition of Nature. I’m puzzled why this concept is foreign to y’all.

I took that and said that the women are procreating BEFORE marriage with the ones who are not saved, "the suspects" as you called them, and then later on they are looking at for "the outstanding" black men or the ones who has worked/fixed themselves up to mentor their sons that they created with the "suspects or the black men that are not saved" You didn't understand this point.

I understand it, it’s just a broad picture to paint lmao.

I’m the only boy in a family of women with a Widower as a mother. By your logic, I should of never gotten mentorship or assistance through college.

Not every single Black Boy from a single mother household is the result of a chick fukking a hood nikka and then regretting it years later.

As you said, all the black men, won't be saved, so how can you stop the black women from procreating with the ones that are not saved? or "outstanding"?

You stop it by letting those women die off with the men the chose to procreate with and uplift young boys who are coming to you looking for help.

Who's choosing to have babies out of wedlock instead of getting married? Black men or Black Women

could argue both if you really want to go there.

 

[YaThreadFloppedB!]

Cry me an ocean.

Now that she’s confirmed in her mind that she’s washed (and she prolly has been for at least 10 years) now it had dawned on her they she doesn’t have a man to care for her.

Sounds like a personal problem.

the illusion of options.

 

[1thouwow]

Its definitely all true within the zoo created by the European aka America. Black men do need to wear suits to be considered "presentable". Black men do need to speak a certain way to be considered proper gentlemen. All men in america are valued by their money and place on the success ladder. Just because its true,doesnt mean all black men want to conform,and willingly assimilate.


Kevin Samuels spoke assimilation rhetoric to the detriment of black men. If its all about money and status whats wrong with being a bedwench? White men are at the top of the food chain in America. He was basically teaching black women why they should chase and submit to white men.



And what makes it even more stupid. Is if you are going to preach wealth building and how to succesfully assimilat to black men. Why turn around teach those men to value looks? Women would talk about owning businesses and making 6 figueres and he would say "Men dont care"



If your going to teach the type of rhetoric he does. You should be teaching wealthy black men and women to join forces. And form relationships based on finances over feelings or attraction.


Maybe the issue is he wasnt actually for black men at all. But yall keep trying to position him as some type of messiah who was specefically trying to help black men. But if wasnt for black people specefically,he really wrong for saying what he said about black women

Juelz gif

 

[NO-BadAzz]

That’s the fukking point I’m making! We are in a FAILED PATRIARCHY because women still need Men for their sons and daughters.

You keep babbling about BW “running” the household.. they aren’t running shyt that’s the issue.

Yes it’s called life. Focus on us, uplift the boys in our immediate community, and the effect will trickle down. Those who don’t catch on will die off.

This is the definition of Nature. I’m puzzled why this concept is foreign to y’all.

I understand it, it’s just a broad picture to paint lmao.

I’m the only boy in a family of women with a Widower as a mother. By your logic, I should of never gotten mentorship or assistance through college.

Not every single Black Boy from a single mother household is the result of a chick fukking a hood nikka and then regretting it years later.

You stop it by letting those women die off with the men the chose to procreate with and uplift young boys who are coming to you looking for help.

could argue both if you really want to go there.

Let's go there. If a woman doesn't have sex with YOU, can a baby be made by YOU or any man? If a woman tells you that she wants to marry you or be married before she has sex with YOU, would she have children out of wedlock?
Women control access to sex, Men control access to marriage.

If the woman has the children under her roof, and the man is not in the same house as her and the kids who is the head of the house? Who calls the shots? The man or woman? Who makes all of the decisions throughout the week? Most black boys and girls come from single parent homes which majority are ran by the mother. Or are you saying these boys come from single parent homes operated by the father? Which one

Who makes the most decisions in regard to steering a child's life outta that 80% group of children born out of wedlock?? The mother or the father?

Who chooses the schools for children of this 80% group of children born out of wedlock to attend in most cases, the mothers or fathers?

Do you think there are more children (that 80% born out of wedlock) living with their mamas or dads?

It's not a broad picture, it's reality and it's being said in a way that men or women haven't heard before and it stings.

I didn't say "hood" nikka, there are men who are not "hood" that are irresponsible, again, the woman picks these men to procreate with instead of marrying first.

No disrespect, but I could tell by your posting that women were around you in a leader position, it's not a bad thing in a sense, I just feel that womanish presence, it's hard for you to hold women accountable for their decisions and you deflect.

Again, I salute what you're doing, but you have to be honest with reality and how things work and hold the necessary people accountable for things that has happened. The truth stings and it comes off as bitter, no matter what you're talking about, sports, relationships, history, the truth paints the person or persons telling it bitter, but it's the truth and not feelings.

You keep saying focus on the men, but you never said what the women should do