Kevin Samuels was right

[NO-BadAzz]

That’s the fukking point I’m making! We are in a FAILED PATRIARCHY because women still need Men for their sons and daughters.

You keep babbling about BW “running” the household.. they aren’t running shyt that’s the issue.

Yes it’s called life. Focus on us, uplift the boys in our immediate community, and the effect will trickle down. Those who don’t catch on will die off.

This is the definition of Nature. I’m puzzled why this concept is foreign to y’all.

I understand it, it’s just a broad picture to paint lmao.

I’m the only boy in a family of women with a Widower as a mother. By your logic, I should of never gotten mentorship or assistance through college.

Not every single Black Boy from a single mother household is the result of a chick fukking a hood nikka and then regretting it years later.

You stop it by letting those women die off with the men the chose to procreate with and uplift young boys who are coming to you looking for help.

could argue both if you really want to go there.

You keep saying "focus" on ourselves as men, Let's do this, let's say all of the men woke up and started to do what you said to do, every black man was now an "outstanding" black man, what does it do for marriage?

Do you think these "outstanding" black men want to marry out of shape, masculine, in denial, unappreciative, delusional, entitled, selfish women? Of course, not all women are like this, but the ones who are not, let's say that they bring 1 or 2 or more kids with them, you think these men want to take care of another man's kid or kids?
Do you think that's a good deal for the men, the outstanding ones to jump on and marry a woman in such a state/position or do you think it's fair for these men to smash, have fun with them for 4-6 months and bounce on to the next one, or keep a rotation and wait on a great deal that makes sense to them?


Those boys that you are mentoring, take a look at their mothers when they drop those boys off to you and ask yourself, would a man with resources wanna marry any one of them, or start asking yourself, why don't these women have husbands, why are these women single and can't keep/secure a man's ring, you'll start to understand things much better when you start digging, let alone start digging in a woman's past. You mentioned that you were young, I assume you're in your 20s, which is fine, but you need to ask yourself when these mothers drop off their kids, why aren't these women not married? They can't get A husband.

 

[Gloxina]

Its definitely all true within the zoo created by the European aka America. Black men do need to wear suits to be considered "presentable". Black men do need to speak a certain way to be considered proper gentlemen. All men in america are valued by their money and place on the success ladder. Just because its true,doesnt mean all black men want to conform,and willingly assimilate.


Kevin Samuels spoke assimilation rhetoric to the detriment of black men. If its all about money and status whats wrong with being a bedwench? White men are at the top of the food chain in America. He was basically teaching black women why they should chase and submit to white men.



And what makes it even more stupid. Is if you are going to preach wealth building and how to succesfully assimilat to black men. Why turn around teach those men to value looks? Women would talk about owning businesses and making 6 figueres and he would say "Men dont care"



If your going to teach the type of rhetoric he does. You should be teaching wealthy black men and women to join forces. And form relationships based on finances over feelings or attraction.


Maybe the issue is he wasnt actually for black men at all. But yall keep trying to position him as some type of messiah who was specefically trying to help black men. But if wasnt for black people specefically,he really wrong for saying what he said about black women

And this was one of the great flaws with his message. If women were to listen to really him and go after a certain type of guy, all BW 18-30 needed to transform into “HVW” to appeal to the most successful men and then date/marry out because Asian and White men are currently at the top of the pyramid and combined there are more of them than BM. It made no sense!

This is why there needed to be real discussion about everyone being average and uniting and building from there. Literally had people chasing something they would never reach or telling them why they didn’t qualify. That’s not how you nation build.

 

[RaspberryFitted]

Let's go there. If a woman doesn't have sex with YOU, can a baby be made by YOU or any man? If a woman tells you that she wants to marry you or be married before she has sex with YOU, would she have children out of wedlock?
Women control access to sex, Men control access to marriage.

A man can decline a woman’s sexual advances and a woman can decline a marriage proposal.. fukk are you babbling about

If the woman has the children under her roof, and the man is not in the same house as her and the kids who is the head of the house? Who calls the shots? The man or woman? Who makes all of the decisions throughout the week? Most black boys and girls come from single parent homes which majority are ran by the mother. Or are you saying these boys come from single parent homes operated by the father? Which one

Neither are calling the shots because these kids are out on the streets doing whatever the fukk they want.

It's not a broad picture, it's reality and it's being said in a way that men or women haven't heard before and it stings.

You keep speaking to me as if I’m new to this game or never experienced this So any little black boy without a father should just go to the bushes

I didn't say "hood" nikka, there are men who are not "hood" that are irresponsible, again, the woman picks these men to procreate with instead of marrying first.

No disrespect, but I could tell by your posting that women were around you in a leader position, it's not a bad thing in a sense, I just feel that womanish presence, it's hard for you to hold women accountable for their decisions and you deflect.

This section is laughable lmaoooo.

Me telling other brehs to focus and control what they can control is giving you a “womanish presence”? I’m literally telling you BM should focus on themselves, each other, and pass gems to younger brehs but you arguing against it and want to argue with women.

Like a bytch would.

Again, I salute what you're doing, but you have to be honest with reality and how things work and hold the necessary people accountable for things that has happened. The truth stings and it comes off as bitter, no matter what you're talking about, sports, relationships, history, the truth paints the person or persons telling it bitter, but it's the truth and not feelings.

The reality is I care more about what Men do than what Women do, and Women naturally follow Men….. so if we as Men stand on our square we can weed out the undesirables

Why are you not comprehending this shyt. I’m aware of the BS Women do..

You keep saying focus on the men, but you never said what the women should do

Bruh.. the entire Internet for the past 5 years has been telling what what they should do. From tweets, to Podcasts, to forums post.. nothing but a bunch of grown men bytching about what they SHOULD DO instead of doing it.

Don’t you nikkas get tired of that instead of moving accordingly?

 

[RaspberryFitted]

You keep saying "focus" on ourselves as men, Let's do this, let's say all of the men woke up and started to do what you said to do, every black man was now an "outstanding" black man, what does it do for marriage?

Put these women on notice and tells them to get on game breh.

I promise to God it’s not as complex as you making it. Men this Generation are weak as fukk and can stomp out all the BS that they complain about.

But they don’t

Do you think these "outstanding" black men want to marry out of shape, masculine, in denial, unappreciative, delusional, entitled, selfish women? Of course, not all women are like this, but the ones who are not, let's say that they bring 1 or 2 or more kids with them, you think these men want to take care of another man's kid or kids?
Do you think that's a good deal for the men, the outstanding ones to jump on and marry a woman in such a state/position or do you think it's fair for these men to smash, have fun with them for 4-6 months and bounce on to the next one, or keep a rotation and wait on a great deal that makes sense to them?

Who is advocating for these Men to marry these Women? Nobody is saying that breh what are you talking about.

If a little black boy comes to me and asks me for gems, I’ve pass em to them. I’m not adopting them, not feeding them, nun of that.

Do you know what mentorship is?

 

[Commish]

I seen a lot of these lately


So yes KS was right

I will give this woman credit for recognizing her situation. Now she understand that shyt got real once she hit middle age.

Unless she get her mind right and do what she need to do to find a suitable companion, things will only gonna get harder as she ages.

Her Mom will not be able to help her at some point and her siblings will make her a secondary or tertiary priority...

Women in their 20s & 30s don't it yet, so you can't tell them shyt! They gonna have to learn about the realities of life the hard way unfortunately...

 

[Still Benefited]

Let's go there. If a woman doesn't have sex with YOU, can a baby be made by YOU or any man? If a woman tells you that she wants to marry you or be married before she has sex with YOU, would she have children out of wedlock?
Women control access to sex, Men control access to marriage.

If the woman has the children under her roof, and the man is not in the same house as her and the kids who is the head of the house? Who calls the shots? The man or woman? Who makes all of the decisions throughout the week? Most black boys and girls come from single parent homes which majority are ran by the mother. Or are you saying these boys come from single parent homes operated by the father? Which one

Who makes the most decisions in regard to steering a child's life outta that 80% group of children born out of wedlock?? The mother or the father?

Who chooses the schools for children of this 80% group of children born out of wedlock to attend in most cases, the mothers or fathers?

Do you think there are more children (that 80% born out of wedlock) living with their mamas or dads?

It's not a broad picture, it's reality and it's being said in a way that men or women haven't heard before and it stings.

I didn't say "hood" nikka, there are men who are not "hood" that are irresponsible, again, the woman picks these men to procreate with instead of marrying first.

No disrespect, but I could tell by your posting that women were around you in a leader position, it's not a bad thing in a sense, I just feel that womanish presence, it's hard for you to hold women accountable for their decisions and you deflect.

Again, I salute what you're doing, but you have to be honest with reality and how things work and hold the necessary people accountable for things that has happened. The truth stings and it comes off as bitter, no matter what you're talking about, sports, relationships, history, the truth paints the person or persons telling it bitter, but it's the truth and not feelings.

You keep saying focus on the men, but you never said what the women should do

I think you missed an important part of @RaspberryFitted post. Which is essentially the way black men change things is by being indifferent and righteously unnaffected


Black men could easily ignore the type of women you are complaining about. Instead we do what you said "smash, have fun with them for 4-6 months and bounce on to the next one, or keep a rotation and wait on a great deal that makes sense to them?". Which essentially rewards them and gives positive reinforcement of their bad behavior(Pavlovs dog)


When instead, black men could get to know women better. And refuse to deal with and have sex with unclaimables. But Id guess we'd rather promote casual sex with hellhounds that often creates unwanted children


There is no more black community. Your people arent your people and majority have been genetically modified/assimilated. Trying to save all black people is foolish in 2022. Save those that can be,uplift those that want to be. Build yourself a nice community of family and friends,and leave the country.


Last thing a black man can do is blame black women. That would be like an abusive/ deadbeat father blaming his child for being a fukk up. Technically sure I guess that is true,but the audacity



You have been a deadbeat to the black woman. Step up and be Bobby Johneon and save Little Jimmy where applicable. And let the other "daddy"(The European) have the rest#TheChildOfMan #RenderUntoCeasar

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Put these women on notice and tells them to get on game breh.

I promise to God it’s not as complex as you making it. Men this Generation are weak as fukk and can stomp out all the BS that they complain about.

But they don’t

Who is advocating for these Men to marry these Women? Nobody is saying that breh what are you talking about.

If a little black boy comes to me and asks me for gems, I’ve pass em to them. I’m not adopting them, not feeding them, nun of that.

Do you know what mentorship is?

What game are you referring? I hope by telling these women what the men that they want want and don't want? Like KS and others have been saying to these women, these women are ready being put on game what are you talking about ? You must be talking about something else, because that's all men been saying to women (game) what they want.

I never said that it was complex nor trying to make it out to be, you keep stating this "focus" on ourselves and I said simply, women should marry before you carry. That's as simplest it can get, it been that way since the beginning of the time. Women who had babies out of wedlock were shamed, outcasted in stages of life, now these women are praised and think they control/are entitled to what they want and they demand that they should get it, nah. Doesn't work that way for noone.

You can choose to tell the black boy anything you would like breh, nobody is faulting you for that.

I said that if the woman who had the kid, got married, there wouldn't be no need for a mentor at the age of 8, 12, 14, if there's a husband in the home for the most part. His family would be there to mentor and guide the black boy, etc. Not a stranger, but since many kids are born out of wedlock, thus mentorship programs have become a thing in the black community.

You keep saying that men need to focus on ourselves (whatever that means), and as I said, if all of the men woke up and became "focus" what does that mean for marriage if the women are not right?

Do you know that these women are not wives? That Bible that many read says that a man findth a wife, that means she's already a wife.

 

[Jone2three45]

RIP Kevin Samuels

 

[NO-BadAzz]

A man can decline a woman’s sexual advances and a woman can decline a marriage proposal.. fukk are you babbling about

Neither are calling the shots because these kids are out on the streets doing whatever the fukk they want.

You keep speaking to me as if I’m new to this game or never experienced this So any little black boy without a father should just go to the bushes

This section is laughable lmaoooo.

Me telling other brehs to focus and control what they can control is giving you a “womanish presence”? I’m literally telling you BM should focus on themselves, each other, and pass gems to younger brehs but you arguing against it and want to argue with women.

Like a bytch would.

The reality is I care more about what Men do than what Women do, and Women naturally follow Men….. so if we as Men stand on our square we can weed out the undesirables

Why are you not comprehending this shyt. I’m aware of the BS Women do..

Bruh.. the entire Internet for the past 5 years has been telling what what they should do. From tweets, to Podcasts, to forums post.. nothing but a bunch of grown men bytching about what they SHOULD DO instead of doing it.

Don’t you nikkas get tired of that instead of moving accordingly?

You can't create a baby unless a woman allows you to have sex with her, that's what the fukk I'm talking about, let's not act 5. Many men are not turning down sex, unless they some dikk in the booty ass dude. Let's not act 5 again, Women control access to Sex, that's why men pay for sex, women don't pay for sex in the scheme of things. Women control sex, not dudes as like you're trying to project.
If a woman doesn't want to have sex, you cannot create a baby. That's why virgins were so valuable. You had to marry the woman first before you can bed with her.

If you are aware of BS, then this whole "focus" needs to die, as I stated, men can wake up tomorrow and be "focus" how does that fix the women's BS?? you said put them on game? What the hell does that even mean? other than telling them what men want and not want which men have been doing since forever and a day?

The men can weed the undesirables out already, their stats will do that for them, masculine energy, overweight, outside kids etc, you can be a stable man and weed those women out

 

[BujuBoombastic]

Really. That’s crazy. Why didn’t she go to the hospital with him or go to his funeral? She was acting like they weren’t close like that, and I heard she was charging money if people wanted more insight from her on her relationship with him.

It seems like she was after his $ and clout for the most part. Now I know I’m not supposed to say that, but her actions seem strange for a woman who was close to being engaged with him.

I’m just glad his black daughter and mother got whatever money he had left over, instead of spicy gold digging becky.

He was right about some things, and other things he was clearly trying to be controversial for clicks and subscribers. It worked. But during his reign, his content further divided Brehs and brehettes.


I’ve noticed that the increase in the divisiveness that I saw during his peak, has since simmered down to what it was before his content became popular, since his death. @Booksnrain @Gloxina @Hazel Brown @13473 @Peachstate and all other females that actively post on here, have y’all noticed the simmering down too?

I don’t know about all of that
If that was the case then Kevin Samuels
close friends (Dennis Spurling, Oshay, Obsidian, etc) all the “Black Manosphere” would call her out on that if the things you stated are true
I didn’t see them any of them address any of the claims you stated

 

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

And this was one of the great flaws with his message. If women were to listen to really him and go after a certain type of guy, all BW 18-30 needed to transform into “HVW” to appeal to the most successful men and then date/marry out because Asian and White men are currently at the top of the pyramid and combined there are more of them than BM. It made no sense!

This is why there needed to be real discussion about everyone being average and uniting and building from there. Literally had people chasing something they would never reach or telling them why they didn’t qualify. That’s not how you nation build.

gloxina there black men that are high value



He didn't mean just money it's 6 aspects of a high value man

1. Money 10k a month starting point
2. Performance length of time . U got to do it for at least 5 years

3. Group acceptance the group got to respect u

4. Network of contacts

5. Visibility ur position and income got to be LinkedIn level

6. Utility useful to others and the group


Breaking it down for u sweetheart

 

[CarmelBarbie]

In this made-up scenario yes, all single mothers need to hand over their black boys to their dad. Aint shyt ones and all. They are now forced to see after the child 95% of the time, instead of being "weekend dads". Maybe having their black son 95% of time will put some straightenin into the dead-beat dads (again it says a lot about a woman who picks a dead-beat dad more than anything instead of marrying the man before having the kid with a dead-beat dad, she'll know if he's a dead-beat if she would have married him first before having a baby). Women create dead-beat dads by not marrying first

I believe that it would change the dead-beat dad if that man had to care for his child 95% of the time.

More fathers won't do such thing is because the mother stops them from coming to take care of their kids in many cases or make if difficult, most men don't want to go through all of the BS (now there are some aint shyt men, but again, that goes back to the woman picking this scum and procreating with him), some mothers use their child or children as a weapon to control the dude, keep him from seeing other women once their relationship is over. Some mothers are vindictive towards the man, but all that would be cut out if this law was upheld. The boy is going with the father after the age 7 anyway until he reaches 23.

Even in some case when those men who take care of their children, the mother still "tries" to control the situation and at times give that dad a hard time. It plays out more if the dad is with another woman and she's still single. Being Vindictive would be gone or at an all-time low if the law stated that ALL single mothers with boys hand over their boys after the age of 7

I believe black men 20-30 years would be in better state.

How can I say that most women are vindicative, peep out the attitude of most women who have kids, snarly, manipulative, masculine, many talk in a negative light about the kid's or children father. They talk bad about men, even the good ones lol. You just smh, smash and move along

Well for once I do agree that it would do a lot of good for boys to be sent to their fathers at 7 or 8, like what they used to do back in history, at a certain age boys left their moms and we’re sent off to become men under the leadership of other men. I think that would be optimal for our community to be honest. Not just because it would force men to step up and raise their sons, but it would be beneficial for young Brehs too. Daughters can stay with mom.

But that will never happen.

As for the bolded. Why even smash though? You don’t have standards on your dikk?

 

[Nokids]

With all the videos and news of women doing fukkry his videos would have been crazy! shyt feels like 97 after pac and big died

 

[RaspberryFitted]

You can't create a baby unless a woman allows you to have sex with her, that's what the fukk I'm talking about, let's not act 5. Many men are not turning down sex, unless they some dikk in the booty ass dude. Let's not act 5 again,

This statement alone shows me you a fukking dweeb. If a man declines sex with a woman, he’s gay? How immature does that sound.

There’s a laundry list excluding STDs on why a Man would decline sex.

If you are aware of BS, then this whole "focus" needs to die, as I stated, men can wake up tomorrow and be "focus" how does that fix the women's BS??

Why do you care about wtf Women do? This the shyt I’m fukking talking about. Y’all be hyperfocused on what Women do. If women think there’s nobody to be changed.. then so be it: this community will crumble.

There will be Black Men who are on point and will inspire the next generation of young black boys and black girls.. and they’ll be solid BW behind them.

you said put them on game? What the hell does that even mean? other than telling them what men want and not want which men have been doing since forever and a day?

You keep saying telling instead of showing. If we as Men collectively check the BS we deal with in Women with our ACTIONS instead of 3 hour livestreams, shyt will shake.

Funny thing is, KS has said the same shyt I’m telling you. So has the barbershops I’ve visited, the mentors I’ve had once women are brought up, my homeboys, etc…

I’m not even disagreeing with your points. My main arguement is all we can do as Men is be as sharp as possible, control what we can control, and avoid BM and BW who want to disturb that.

If you genuinely have a problem with the above… Ion know what to tell you breh gon head and talk to some bird on Twitter about it.

 

[Boxchevy]

What game are you referring? I hope by telling these women what the men that they want want and don't want? Like KS and others have been saying to these women, these women are ready being put on game what are you talking about ? You must be talking about something else, because that's all men been saying to women (game) what they want.

I never said that it was complex nor trying to make it out to be, you keep stating this "focus" on ourselves and I said simply, women should marry before you carry. That's as simplest it can get, it been that way since the beginning of the time. Women who had babies out of wedlock were shamed, outcasted in stages of life, now these women are praised and think they control/are entitled to what they want and they demand that they should get it, nah. Doesn't work that way for noone.

You can choose to tell the black boy anything you would like breh, nobody is faulting you for that.

I said that if the woman who had the kid, got married, there wouldn't be no need for a mentor at the age of 8, 12, 14, if there's a husband in the home for the most part. His family would be there to mentor and guide the black boy, etc. Not a stranger, but since many kids are born out of wedlock, thus mentorship programs have become a thing in the black community.

You keep saying that men need to focus on ourselves (whatever that means), and as I said, if all of the men woke up and became "focus" what does that mean for marriage if the women are not right?

Do you know that these women are not wives? That Bible that many read says that a man findth a wife, that means she's already a wife.

No wonder black men have so many issues with manhood. What you are essentially saying is women should lead and men will follow, while all at the same time expecting submission from said 'leader'...this is not how it works, never have and never will. This is the root of black men submission issues. You are saying women should regulate men behaviors. Thats not how 'leaders' operate.