Putting nikkaz in the dirt with 1-on-1 post play...
Before Tony
Before Ginobli
Before Pop started implementing motion in the offense
As a Rookie
The Duncan disrespect on here is filthy
KG vs. Team USA in '00 :damn:
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Putting nikkaz in the dirt with 1-on-1 post play...
Before Tony
Before Ginobli
Before Pop started implementing motion in the offense
As a Rookie
The Duncan disrespect on here is filthy
Except Tim not a center
All the mental gymnastics in the world won't change that TD got more All NBA teams, won more MVP's, titles, at the 4 spot than KG
And Tim did it with an injured knee post 2000
Matter of fact here's Timmy busting KG ass at the 4 spot
Duncan>Garnett
Like I said in my edit, when you evaluate the two, all the things Duncan does better are things you associate with the Center position. Because Tim Duncan is a Center. All the things KG does better, are things you associate with the Power Forward position, because KG is a Power Forward.
You can see that in the video, Tim Duncan is more physical and able to push around KG in the paint. While KG is quicker and able to stay in front of Tim Duncan and move around him in the paint, but he's not as strong as Tim Duncan so help defense has more of an impact on his ability to finish in the paint than Tim Duncan who's strength is very very underrated.
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Except Tim not a center
All the mental gymnastics in the world won't change that TD got more All NBA teams, won more MVP's, titles, at the 4 spot than KG
And Tim did it with an injured knee post 2000
Matter of fact here's Timmy busting KG ass at the 4 spot
Duncan>Garnett
38 year old Duncan was still washing nikkas while KG was getting washed by bummy Euro big Men like Andrea Bargani
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Nah fukk outta here you talking stupid. What could KG do Tim couldn't?
Tim had a face-up game
Jumpshot out to 22 feet
Could go off dribble
Rebound the ball and bring it up
One of the best big man passers through his career
Has the best bank shot in NBA history
What does KG do better than Tim than talk a lot of shyt
Everything PF's do today, Tim was doing in his prime
Tim was versatile enough and a better post defender and rim protector than most PF's to be able to play center if needed and defend C's, and do it well yet that's a knock on him
Nah fukk outta here you talking stupid. What could KG do Tim couldn't?
Tim had a face-up game
Jumpshot out to 22 feet
Could go off dribble
Rebound the ball and bring it up
One of the best big man passers through his career
Has the best bank shot in NBA history
What does KG do better than Tim than talk a lot of shyt
Everything PF's do today, Tim was doing in his prime
Tim was versatile enough and a better post defender and rim protector than most PF's to be able to play center and do it well yet that's a knock on him
Kevin Garnett used to bring the ball up the court and run point for the T-Wolves from time to time. He's better in the face up position from the perimeter than Tim Duncan, a better passer with better court vision, better perimeter isolation moves and a better perimeter scorer altogether. His mid-post game was better than Tim Duncan's because he was so much quicker and harder to stay in front of. All his hesitations and fakes and whatnot were quicker than Duncan's because KG is freakishly fast for someone his size and doesn't get enough credit for how fast he could move. His help defense is better than Tim Duncan's and he's able to guard pick and rolls and what not much better than Duncan because he was quicker and a higher/more explosive leaper.
Tim Duncan on the other hand is stronger. He finished better in the post, had better post defense and enforced the paint much better than KG did because of this. All the things KG does better than Tim Duncan are things you expect from a forward, all the things that Tim Duncan does better than KG are things you expect from a center.
Because KG is a Power Forward and Tim Duncan is a Center.
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Nah fukk outta here you talking stupid. What could KG do Tim couldn't?
Tim had a face-up game
Jumpshot out to 22 feet
Could go off dribble
Rebound the ball and bring it up
One of the best big man passers through his career
Has the best bank shot in NBA history
What does KG do better than Tim than talk a lot of shyt
Everything PF's do today, Tim was doing in his prime
Tim was versatile enough and a better post defender and rim protector than most PF's to be able to play center if needed and defend C's, and do it well yet that's a knock on him
KG was a better passer, had a better handle, more moves & more range
Defensively, slight edge to Duncan but KG's defensive peak was higher...TD had longevity defensively tho
Duncan had better career circumstances in terms of coaching, front office, and talent around him
Also, Duncan was a 5 since the '06-'07 season and played it a lot in certain rotations before then...
KG came into the league as a 3, became a 4 , he didn't play the 5 until those last years in Boston and first year in Brooklyn.
The talent around Tim is so grossly overrated. And conversely the talent around KG is so grossly underrated. Cats act like Duncan didn't lead Avery Johnson, Mario Elie, and a flabby D. Rob to a sweep of Kobe/Shaq/Rice in his 2nd season. Cats act like KG didn't have the likes of Marbury and Chauncey and Gugliotta. If we keeping it 100 was there really a significant difference between Troy Hudson and young TP? nikkas act like KG didn't play with Ray Allen and Pierce and Rondo for 6 years with 1 chip to show for it.
KG had the talent to be the GOAT PF and GOAT player really but he didn't have the actual impact. We never saw him dominate series on both ends like Duncan did. He wasn't even the defender Duncan was early on, although he grew into it eventually. If we are being real, he's actually what folks falsely accuse Bron of being...a guy that had talent and put up numbers but when shyt got hot was nowhere to be found and needed superteams to carry him.
Only thing KG had on Tim was handles. Tim is one of GOAT big man passers. I know you aren't talking about post moves
. KG wasn't a threat from 3 so how did he have more range?
KG had a legitimate low post game tho and his post moves were honestly better than Duncan's. Like seriously, watch a young KG go to work in the post, the nikka's quickness, hesitations and footwork were. He just wasn't as strong as Tim Duncan who could muscle for better position in the post (and he had better coaching to help him establish better position in the post and consistently get better looks) because he is a 5 through and through. That's why KG is the GOAT PF and Tim Duncan is arguably a top 3 Center.
Have flashier moves and be less effective with it cause you don't take weight lifting seriously
Tim has 4 titles and 2 MVPs as a PF.....
KG had a legitimate low post game tho and his post moves were honestly better than Duncan's. Like seriously, watch a young KG go to work in the post, the nikka's quickness, hesitations and footwork were
No the fukk they weren't
Y'all nikkas is disrespectful as fukk. Duncan's post game was pristine, he was clutch as fukk, and he was pretty much unguardable on the block. Y'all dumb nikkas talking "Pop" and not realizing that Pop's system tends to lower the stats of stars because it prioritizes ball movement over all but Duncan was unstoppable. His post game prioritized efficiency over style but KG is NEVER seeing Duncan on the block. fukk outta here
