Kiara Mia Ain't Walking Thru That Door.. Bye Jimmy! 2022 49ers Offseason Thread

[jwonder]

what are you talking about? The team talent wise wasn't as good in those years the team looked like "shyt".

And there's been plenty of folks saying Jimmy played shytty even during wins. Where are you getting your information? There's plenty of posts where cats were shytting on Jimmy for playing like Jimmy, but we still won because other folks came through. The year we went to the Super Bowl with Jimmy Kyle went out of his way to make sure Jimmy couldn't fukk up drives. Do you not remember the packers game where he passed for 77 yards?? The Super Bowl was the only game he had more than 140 yards passing and over 20 attempts in the playoffs that year and he rewarded us by missing Sanders deep and throwing 2 interceptions.

Do you remember that Mostert had damn near 300 yards that game. Why the hell would you throw it.

Sanders was held in the long pass in the SB btw.

Nobody ever said Jimmy was a great QB. I always said he was good. But some of ya'll act like we didn't have Alex Trash Smith.

If he is bad as you all claim. Niners don't reach the SB and NFC Championship. shyt the Rams game. Jimmy actually played well till the INT that shouldn't have happened if Tartt catches the damn INT. shyt was in his hands.

I don't get the Jimmy hate. Looking how SF has been the last decade. It was good to finally be back as contenders. Both years when he was healthy btw.

You got bums like Kirk Cousins in a similar situation and can't do shyt with talent around him.

 

[jwonder]

Speaking of Mostert. I'm not for injury prone players. But I'll make an exception for him. He's a game changer. Mitchell can be the starter which will take the load off of Mostert. Mostert just gets the 40+ yard gains that you don't see often.

Mitchell and Mostert would cause havoc. shyt might be some games that Trey throws for only 77 yards if they have that tandem.

 

[feelosofer]

Why? He's injury prone and washed at this point. Plus he's old AF. We don't need Josh Norman part 2.

I think Ambry is going to be a solid corner. Moseley can be inconsistent at times but plays well.

Sherman I think is still good value for the money, he'd cost us little

We should be in the Stephon Gilmore sweepstakes, with him, Mosely. Thomas, and with a FA/ Sherman, Lennior, Draft pick/UDFA

I also trust Lynch to find some random 6ft corner in free agency.

 

[jwonder]

Sherman I think is still good value for the money, he'd cost us little

We should be in the Stephon Gilmore sweepstakes, with him, Mosely. Thomas, and with a FA/ Sherman, Lennior, Draft pick/UDFA

I also trust Lynch to find some random 6ft corner in free agency.

I'm with you with all of the above except Sherman. Did he even play for Tampa this year?

 

[feelosofer]

I'm with you with all of the above except Sherman. Did he even play for Tampa this year?

He played a couple of games but got hurt twice so I get what you're saying he's starting to break down though he did play respectably the little time he was on the field.

 

[calh45]

Do you remember that Mostert had damn near 300 yards that game. Why the hell would you throw it.

Sanders was held in the long pass in the SB btw.

Nobody ever said Jimmy was a great QB. I always said he was good. But some of ya'll act like we didn't have Alex Trash Smith.

If he is bad as you all claim. Niners don't reach the SB and NFC Championship. shyt the Rams game. Jimmy actually played well till the INT that shouldn't have happened if Tartt catches the damn INT. shyt was in his hands.

I don't get the Jimmy hate. Looking how SF has been the last decade. It was good to finally be back as contenders. Both years when he was healthy btw.

You got bums like Kirk Cousins in a similar situation and can't do shyt with talent around him.

The "If we don't make NFC Championship" argument is a goal post moving false equivalency for Jimmy fans to pretend like he wasn't a major problem. The team can be amazing, and have better QB play, but still not make it next year if a team is better than us. The same thing happened our super bowl year happened this year. The only games where Jimmy had an actual impact aka more than 200 yards passing we lost in his playoff career with us. Go look that shyt up. That's the trend with Jimmy as a QB in the playoffs. If he's allowed to have an impact on the game we fukking lose. That's a sign he's not this amazing cog you're pointing to, but instead he's just fortunate to be in the position he is, and it's the TEAM that matters. The TEAM is the biggest indicator of success and as long we have the team there's a very good chance we'll be able to get the same success, but no result is ever guaranteed. You're not going to pretend a man that threw for 2 touchdowns and 3 interceptions this playoffs is a problem if he leaves in a QB driven league where a turnover prone QB is murder. He's Kirk Cousins light with better luck.

 

[Heretic]

he sure is

Richard Sherman

he had the off field issue but aside from that I dont understand why we didn't bring him back during the season

Why? He's injury prone and washed at this point. Plus he's old AF. We don't need Josh Norman part 2.

I think Ambry is going to be a solid corner. Moseley can be inconsistent at times but plays well.

While I really like what Sherman brings from a leadership perspective I think he knows as well as everyone else that injuries robbed him of his effectiveness. He would be a hell of a free safety for a couple of years though. He had the same calf injury this year that kept nagging him last year with us so the grind of playing CB will aggravate that often so expect him to miss a few games from here on out if he keeps playing.

I liked Thomas' development, he took his lumps and became solid, Moseley is solid too, we just gotta run schemes that prevent top receivers from being wide open all game. I think that's another reason Ryans came back because he knows without a DLINE like we had he wouldn't last as a coach because I was really unimpressed by our scheme or lack thereof

 

[Bryan Danielson]

 

[jwonder]

The "If we don't make NFC Championship" argument is a goal post moving false equivalency for Jimmy fans to pretend like he wasn't a major problem. The team can be amazing, and have better QB play, but still not make it next year if a team is better than us. The same thing happened our super bowl year happened this year. The only games where Jimmy had an actual impact aka more than 200 yards passing we lost in his playoff career with us. Go look that shyt up. That's the trend with Jimmy as a QB in the playoffs. If he's allowed to have an impact on the game we fukking lose. That's a sign he's not this amazing cog you're pointing to, but instead he's just fortunate to be in the position he is, and it's the TEAM that matters. The TEAM is the biggest indicator of success and as long we have the team there's a very good chance we'll be able to get the same success, but no result is ever guaranteed. You're not going to pretend a man that threw for 2 touchdowns and 3 interceptions this playoffs is a problem if he leaves in a QB driven league where a turnover prone QB is murder. He's Kirk Cousins light with better luck.

And your not going to act like there weren't key dropped passes through out the playoffs and that the defense didn't get lit up by the Rams all damn game.

Dude came here and won the 2 full years he was healthy. Niners we're trash before him. You got QBs that have been in similar situations and haven't made the SB nor the conference chip game.

 

[jwonder]

Trade him. Niners shouldn't pay that much for a TE.

 

[Heretic]

Trade him. Niners shouldn't pay that much for a TE.

I can't get behind that one. He is a great receiver but also really key in the run game. You see how unproductive we are running when he's out, and IMO the best tight end in the game even if Kelce getall the accolades, he isn't half the blocker Kittle is. Not only that, he had nearly 1000yds even with the emergence of Deebo. He'll be key in the development of Trey too. All good QBs need a good TE.

 

[yseJ]

And your not going to act like there weren't key dropped passes through out the playoffs and that the defense didn't get lit up by the Rams all damn game.

Dude came here and won the 2 full years he was healthy. Niners we're trash before him. You got QBs that have been in similar situations and haven't made the SB nor the conference chip game.

Here you go again attributing wins - which are a team stat - to a qb


Jimmy has been trash in playoffs in his career. Rex Grossman was better with the Bears in the playoffs in 06. And like @calh45 said, when they actually needed him to pass the ball he fell flat. He's been awful in fourth quarter of playoff games too.

Jimmy never had a string of games where he actually carried the team. Nick Foles and Joe Flacco have gone on historical playoff runs and their teams actually depended on them to win in offs.
It's run game or bust for us. The gb game our st helped us out. The offense had very few offensive touchdowns throughout the offs. We win with run game and defense and pass is along for the ride with bunch of YAC monsters on the team.

Jimmy is weak af. Find me another contemporary qb who is thought of as good who has more picks than tds in playoffs over at least 5 game sample size

 

[Bryan Danielson]

This discussion is fun…. A lot of BS going on but fun

@jwonder unleash on these niccas

 

[calh45]

And your not going to act like there weren't key dropped passes through out the playoffs and that the defense didn't get lit up by the Rams all damn game.

Dude came here and won the 2 full years he was healthy. Niners we're trash before him. You got QBs that have been in similar situations and haven't made the SB nor the conference chip game.

I should stop responding to you just based on you saying the defense got lit up all damn game when the Rams only had 7 points through the first three quarters so that's just a straight up lie. You can look that up on the boxscore at ESPN/NFL/CBS sports without a whole lot of effort. Our defense was playing incredible. I don't give a fukk if Tartt did drop an interception and y'all try to hang it on him. In the end, Jimmy had enough time to get a field goal to tie the damn game and the end result of that drive was negative 3 yards and an interception. He didn't gain a SINGLE YARD when we actually needed him to. He LOST yards and gave the ball away. That's who you're defending right now and trying to assign total credit for wins he had no real hand in actual victory part of it.

The team always won in spite of his performance. We have had QBs in similar situations who have WON Super Bowls because the team was incredible and they didn't fukk it up. He couldn't even NOT fukk it up. He went BACKWARDS. Elway late in his career on the Broncos. Trent Dilfer. Ben's first SB win on the Steelers. Peyton on the Broncos......Actually. fukk it. I did the math.

Our 2 playoff losses with Jimmy:
Averaged 30.5 attempts per game
Averaged 225.5 yards per game
Averaged 1.5 touchdowns per game
Averaged 1.5 interceptions per game

Our 4 playoff wins with Jimmy:
Averaged 17 attempts per game
Averaged 127 yards per game
Averaged .25 touchdowns per game
Averaged .75 interceptions per game

You are quite literally cheering for someone who STATISTICALLY causes us to lose games the MORE HE THROWS THE BALL. The wild part is IT'S HIS JOB TO THROW THE fukkING BALL. Even in our WINS he throws interceptions 3 times as much as touchdowns aka he's practically useless, but y'all still wanna claim he's a winner somehow.

Check my math if you want.

The losses:
NFC Championship - San Francisco 49ers at Los Angeles Rams - January 30th, 2022 | Pro-Football-Reference.com
Super Bowl LIV - San Francisco 49ers vs. Kansas City Chiefs - February 2nd, 2020 | Pro-Football-Reference.com

The wins:
NFC Championship - Green Bay Packers at San Francisco 49ers - January 19th, 2020 | Pro-Football-Reference.com
Divisional Round - Minnesota Vikings at San Francisco 49ers - January 11th, 2020 | Pro-Football-Reference.com
Divisional Round - San Francisco 49ers at Green Bay Packers - January 22nd, 2022 | Pro-Football-Reference.com
Wild Card - San Francisco 49ers at Dallas Cowboys - January 16th, 2022 | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Your fandom of that man is based on a something else that ain't the reality of how he performs.

 

[jwonder]

I should stop responding to you just based on you saying the defense got lit up all damn game when the Rams only had 7 points through the first three quarters so that's just a straight up lie. You can look that up on the boxscore at ESPN/NFL/CBS sports without a whole lot of effort. Our defense was playing incredible. I don't give a fukk if Tartt did drop an interception and y'all try to hang it on him. In the end, Jimmy had enough time to get a field goal to tie the damn game and the end result of that drive was negative 3 yards and an interception. He didn't gain a SINGLE YARD when we actually needed him to. He LOST yards and gave the ball away. That's who you're defending right now and trying to assign total credit for wins he had no real hand in actual victory part of it.

The team always won in spite of his performance. We have had QBs in similar situations who have WON Super Bowls because the team was incredible and they didn't fukk it up. He couldn't even NOT fukk it up. He went BACKWARDS. Elway late in his career on the Broncos. Trent Dilfer. Ben's first SB win on the Steelers. Peyton on the Broncos......Actually. fukk it. I did the math.

Our 2 playoff losses with Jimmy:
Averaged 30.5 attempts per game
Averaged 225.5 yards per game
Averaged 1.5 touchdowns per game
Averaged 1.5 interceptions per game

Our 4 playoff wins with Jimmy:
Averaged 17 attempts per game
Averaged 127 yards per game
Averaged .25 touchdowns per game
Averaged .75 interceptions per game

You are quite literally cheering for someone who STATISTICALLY causes us to lose games the MORE HE THROWS THE BALL. The wild part is IT'S HIS JOB TO THROW THE fukkING BALL. Even in our WINS he throws interceptions 3 times as much as touchdowns aka he's practically useless, but y'all still wanna claim he's a winner somehow.

Check my math if you want.

The losses:
NFC Championship - San Francisco 49ers at Los Angeles Rams - January 30th, 2022 | Pro-Football-Reference.com
Super Bowl LIV - San Francisco 49ers vs. Kansas City Chiefs - February 2nd, 2020 | Pro-Football-Reference.com

The wins:
NFC Championship - Green Bay Packers at San Francisco 49ers - January 19th, 2020 | Pro-Football-Reference.com
Divisional Round - Minnesota Vikings at San Francisco 49ers - January 11th, 2020 | Pro-Football-Reference.com
Divisional Round - San Francisco 49ers at Green Bay Packers - January 22nd, 2022 | Pro-Football-Reference.com
Wild Card - San Francisco 49ers at Dallas Cowboys - January 16th, 2022 | Pro-Football-Reference.com

Your fandom of that man is based on a something else that ain't the reality of how he performs.

Then get off my dikk and stop responding. You not changing my mind.