Kill all that Durant as MVP noise

[Jax]

It doesn't matter. The stats show that, at the rim, Lebron takes more shots and scores at a better percentage than Durant while being assisted far less.

Hoopdata Player Stats - LeBron James
Hoopdata Player Stats - Kevin Durant

Read the stats, shut up, and stop talking about things you're wrong about.

Turnovers are far less subjective especially when combined with AT ratio and so forth. LeBron averages MORE ASSISTS AND LESS TO WHILE BEING A PRIMARY PLAYMAKER AND BSLLHANDLER FOR HIS TEAM. Durant handles the ball less and still Turnoves more. Go look at the percentages in the proof I provided for you.

And again, steals and blocks don't properly measure a player's defense impact. Ibaka had more blocks than Duncan last year but Duncan is far better at dealing with rotations, contesting shots, bites on pump fakes, etc.

If you're jumping for every block and gambling for steals all the time, you might have high numbers but it comes at the cost of putting yourself out of position or allowing your man to get open. Not only that, Durant rarely guards the toughest defensive assignments on the other team while Lebron does so more often.

Tough perimeter player? Westbrook and Sefalosha. Tough interior? Ibaka.

Again, Durant is a better shooter while Lebron is just as good at scoring while being superior in every other aspect of basketball.

They have the same number of iso-possesions.
Shut the fukk up with the primary ballhandler BS.

 

[Draje]

....you're arguing just to argue. I stated Bron was the man and KD was nipping at his heels. And you come in here with stats separating them by 5%?? The whole premise of this thread was that somehow KD was no longer a legit MVP candidate. Again why are you cats so insecure about realizing that a 24 kid is practically keeping pace with your gawd across the board? You're a walking contradiction. When its Bron with better stats..."read the stats and shut up"....when its KD with better stats..."it don't mean nothing cause it don't take into account how many times he went for a pump fake". You clowns are so transparent and wack. Be a fan of basketball and not just basketball players. Bron is the man, yet its too early in the season to go along with the OP premise given KD is right there with him in terms of stats and team success. What's so hard to admit that?

5% when you realize that Lebron is assisted far less, takes more shots, and is more efficient is a very big deal.

All stats need to be taken with context and that's all
I'm saying. Blocks are NEVER a great barometer of defensive ability. Again, Ibaka averages way more blocks than Duncan but that's because he gambled a lot more which leads to him goaltending, committing fouls, and being out of position.

Offense is a little easier to tell with stats but even those stats need context. Rondo might average more assists than CP3 but he's not a better passer.

Durant is a great player and he has loads of potential. Easily second best in the game. But he's not 'nipping' at Bron's heels. He's a better shooter than Bron and his range is almost unlimited but Lebron is still a much better offensive player and a better defender. It's like comparing Kyrie Irving to CP3, IMO.

As for the other dude, you realize that Durabt averages the same number of ISP possesions despite playing at a higher pace, right? LeBron plays point forward and runs the offense when he's on the court, Westbrook runs the offense for the Thunder.

 

[Reggie]

Kevin Durant scored 40 points yesterday and averaged 28 in the Finals. LeBron isnt a CIA agent, he doesnt have Durant's secrets, he's just a better player.

But in critical moments you can't tell me that not knowing where a player may go on a certain move is not beneficial. I just don't understand why you would work out against someone that is an immediate threat to you.