Killer Mike Asks Michael Jordan To Put Money In Black Owned Banks

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I think both sides of the discussion have legit points. Question for both sides

1) Those who feel Jordan's advancement of blackfolks in his company helps the plight of the black community too, how do you know whether those black folks getting advancements are not koons and self-serving black folks who finna not continue trying to promote more black execs?

2)Those who feel Jordan should invest in black businesses and banks, what accountability will these black companies be held to so that the black community will benefit from their investments? I made a thread about this question and some couldn't answer the question, instead they were agent-like with snitching to the mods and deflection attempts OR one clown gave such a generic response that it was clear he was just regurgitating shyt he heard others have said, without reasoning its practicality

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/afte...ks-and-merchants-held-accountable-for.450330/

1) Jordan doesn't have to do shyt for anyone but himself. If he sees that he wants to position black americans in position of power and help them naviagate up the corporate ladder, its wholly good for black americans to have one additional avenue of advancement.

Its not Jordan's responsibility to uplift the black race, and this talk of black community, there are different communities of black americans in this country and there always have been. So I think you really have to get out of this mindset of looking at all of us as one monolithic block, on top of that , you need to drop the mindset that black americans are lowly and in need of a handout by anyone to advance.

As I said earlier in this thread, the reason blacks have been economically behind is by the policies of the US government and if you aren't talking about removing those US government policies, your energies are being misdirected, because Jordan and other black businessmen don't have the ability to do anythign about that or to overcome it.

2) As for the second, Jordan and other black business and banks only owe it to their shareholders to be successful. If they do that, there very success financially will be a testament to benefitting society because they have a customer base that likes their product and is willing to pay for it over alternatives.
 

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nikka my point was that even though he owns the Hornets it doesn't mean he has real
power in the NBA.

We aren't debating power, we're debating black ownership, which he has marked down.

The fact he owns the Hornets is dope but the Hornets are a franchise, its not some black empire that MJ started up from the ground.

Bob Johnson started it actually, who's also black. The original Hornet's are the Pelicans. The Bobcats were new and Jordan bought it from Johnson.


It's a franchise of the NBA, and the NBA is mostly white owned. Jordan Brand is what MJ helped build from scratch and it's a subsidiary. Which is all good but i think the argument had started because nikkas say MJ should invest in black owned businesses and banks and I agree. He probably already does:yeshrug:

The position and money is real, and that's good enough. A billionaire in a position to make others millionaires.
 

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We aren't debating power, we're debating black ownership, which he has marked down.



Bob Johnson started it actually, who's also black. The original Hornet's are the Pelicans. The Bobcats were new and Jordan bought it from Johnson.


t's a franchise of the NBA, and the NBA is mostly white owned. Jordan Brand is what MJ helped build from scratch and it's a subsidiary. Which is all good but i think the argument had started because nikkas say MJ should invest in black owned businesses and banks and I agree. He probably already does:yeshrug:

The position and money is real, and that's good enough. A billionaire in a position to make others millionaires.


Oh thanks breh, i never knew this :stopitslime:

and yeah i agree with the rest of what you said:manny:
 

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I'm not surprised by that. He probably stays doing some things like that on the low. The responsibility rich black people have to open the doors for more of us to get in varies.
 

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What I posted, you read and said was a half measure. You then said JOrdan needs to have black owned business. Now you've said in this thread you know he is the primary owner of the Hornets. What is there to talk about, you know he is the owner of the HOrnets and that is a black owned business and you know what he was doing for blacks in Jordan subsidiary.

You literally wasted this whole thread shytting on Jordan, then realizing you fukked up and trying to claim you weren't, now trying to claim you losing track equates with me moving goalposts, and now back to saying you never were attacking Jordan, and now claiming you were taken out of context when you literally wrote the opposite of what you are trying to imply now.
No, I only quoted you to say that what I underline cannot be done alone or else it would be a half measure.

I did not underline jordans name.

You then proceeded to bring up other things for no reason.
 

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I fukk with Killer Mike but :camby:, what Jordan does with his money is his personal business. I could understand if he implored black people in general, but to call out Mike personally :camby:
 

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The problem is a lot deeper than giving money into "black owned" banks. What about real estate? Then the laws and the. The school districts. Plus employment to keep money rolling in. It's not just Mike alone that can do that a lot of factors are involved and the government is one of them. The black wall street thing occurred back in 1911. You can't do that shyt in 2016 thinking like it's 1911.
 
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1) Jordan doesn't have to do shyt for anyone but himself. If he sees that he wants to position black americans in position of power and help them naviagate up the corporate ladder, its wholly good for black americans to have one additional avenue of advancement.

Its not Jordan's responsibility to uplift the black race, and this talk of black community, there are different communities of black americans in this country and there always have been. So I think you really have to get out of this mindset of looking at all of us as one monolithic block, on top of that , you need to drop the mindset that black americans are lowly and in need of a handout by anyone to advance.

As I said earlier in this thread, the reason blacks have been economically behind is by the policies of the US government and if you aren't talking about removing those US government policies, your energies are being misdirected, because Jordan and other black businessmen don't have the ability to do anythign about that or to overcome it.

2) As for the second, Jordan and other black business and banks only owe it to their shareholders to be successful. If they do that, there very success financially will be a testament to benefitting society because they have a customer base that likes their product and is willing to pay for it over alternatives.
goodpoints
1) Are the polices of the US government targeting black folks or poor folks who happen to be black?
2) duly noted
 

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goodpoints
1) Are the polices of the US government targeting black folks or poor folks who happen to be black?
2) duly noted
1) Well they were largely enacted to target blacks and kick them out the workforce. a lot of your federal minimum wage laws and licensing requirements and etc were done to specifically to take black americans out of the competition. Now you could apply it too poor folks of all races today being hurt, but the main targets at the time of enactment were black americans.
 

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No, I only quoted you to say that what I underline cannot be done alone or else it would be a half measure.

I did not underline jordans name.

You then proceeded to bring up other things for no reason.

Sure buddy, if you didn't intend to shyt on Jordan, you wouldn't have said why doesn't JOrdan open black own businesses.
You played yourself, take your medicine and move on.
 

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:mjlol: wouldn't be here today if it wasn't for and even today for the black community. In essence he does owe the community
Do some of y'all read the stuff you post before you type?
 

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Sure buddy, if you didn't intend to shyt on Jordan, you wouldn't have said why doesn't JOrdan open black own businesses.
You played yourself, take your medicine and move on.
You brought up that shytting on Jordan crap all on your own. You put words in my mouth and knocked down a strawman.

I only focused on that move. No more, no less. Jordan is irrevelant. Any black man who just does that move is doing a half measure.

I wasnt dissing your bf Jordan.
 
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1) Well they were largely enacted to target blacks and kick them out the workforce. a lot of your federal minimum wage laws and licensing requirements and etc were done to specifically to take black americans out of the competition. Now you could apply it too poor folks of all races today being hurt, but the main targets at the time of enactment were black americans.
oh ok. Since black community is not monolithic and Jordan (and others) should do for self and/or for others only, if they like, then how do you suggest to galvanize efforts to tackle those government polices? especially since some of us won't be affected by it
 
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