Let’s keep it 100, for gun rights you’re willing to work with a white supremacist organization?
Secondly, the Left can’t get rid of the second amendment. It takes 2/3 of Congress ( no chance), a presidential signature ( no chance) and 2/3 of the country states to ratify (no chance).
So you need to think. Would aligning with the NRA be worth it?
Look, I see why you'd call them a white supremacist organization. I point out that their membership is LE-sympathizing and the org traffics in a lot of racist fear & dog whistles. Most of their membership consists of white supremacists. Their response to the Castile case was appalling (and it actually made a sizable contingent of their membership angry. I followed it closely at the time because I was deciding whether or not I should join. I decided against it). But the organization itself was not founded for that, and let us deal squarely with something like the NRA supporting Robert F. Williams' efforts to establish the Black Guard Rifle Club in North Carolina (IIRC) to defend against KKK attacks.
And the government is also a white supremacist organization, so I'm not willing to work with them to disarm the population
Maybe liberals (liberals =/= "the Left") can't repeal the 2nd Amendment (they'd sure love to), but they can achieve a similar effect through a series of legal maneuvers. See: New Jersey gun laws.
I don't think it's necessary for us to "align" with the NRA in the sense of giving them full-throated support, or joining the org or whatever. Offering critical support, though? Maybe. Not falling in line behind the Democratic Party's efforts? Definitely.
I'll quote one of my previous posts that lays out my position re: the NRA and our gun rights. (points bolded for emphasis)
That was 50 years ago (yes they would do it again if faced with a militant movement... all the more reason why I oppose these efforts to strengthen the state on this issue).
Here's what I know, I am an Afrikan man who can today go and legally purchase modern firearms if I chose. Because the civil right has been protected and still exists. No one is stopping you from doing the same... unless you live in a state where politicians (overwhelmingly liberals) have already, in effect, repealed the 2nd Amendment through restrictive gun control laws.
Of course the establishment (including Dems and Repubs)--racist and capitalist as it is--will coalesce behind restricting rights for any group and movement that challenges racism and capitalism. The mistake you are making lays in your willingness to throw away the right itself instead of taking advantage of it.
That willingness to throw away the right itself is like saying, because the U.S. government labels any Afrikan who speaks out as a subversive and has a record of imprisoning or killing them, we should restrict the 1st Amendment for everyone to prevent racist groups (KKK, neo-Nazis, etc., who the U.S. government does not have a record of imprisoning or killing) from spreading racist propaganda through the 1st Amendment. Is that a good political position to you? I think the right position to take on that would be to agitate for the recognition of the full civil and political rights of Afrikans to free speech, not to restrict free speech universally.
I don't believe in throwing away rights, especially not a core one that is capable of securing and defending the others.
in a nutshell: protecting the existence of gun rights legally gives us space as Afrikans to take advantage of it. Compromise those rights or ban firearms across the board and we're assed out and unarmed in a white supremacist country, in a society hostile to us and under a government designed to keep us oppressed.
- wouldn’t that mean the kids are protesting against general gun crime and more specifically about taking guns away from crazy white people?
