Knicks enamored with Trey Lyles may pick him 4th

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nah man. He is a lot more athletic.
Jared Dudley used to be athletic as HELL :manny:
I don't know if this is real or not. But this is something Laker fans (@Hater) warned Knicks fans about. Phil isn't good at evaluating talent. In 2001 he wanted to trade a 22 year old Kobe Bryant for Jason Kidd and Shawn Marion. And he's lost every trade he's made so far with the Knicks.
Lakers would have Kept shaq and they would have won 5-6 titles consecutively.
The current state of the team wouldn't be bleak either, cuz people would want to play for them
Now, Kobe's hoe'ness will set you dudes back a decade :wow:
 

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Nope...Blazers are not using Aldridge to trade up.
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The way this project is going its going to take Phil a decade to put together a team that can make the playoffs in a conference you only need to win 30 games to lockup the 8th seed...Right now this Knicks roster couldn't win a D-League title if there was one to play for...
What options has he not taken so far to improve the team?
 

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Also, not for nothin', but.....cbssports.com has been WRONG about a lot of shyt lately...
 

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I don't know if this is real or not. But this is something Laker fans (@Hater) warned Knicks fans about. Phil isn't good at evaluating talent. In 2001 he wanted to trade a 22 year old Kobe Bryant for Jason Kidd and Shawn Marion. And he's lost every trade he's made so far with the Knicks.

The Tyson trade was rushed a bit. At the time the only other offer on the table was David Lee for Tyson straight up which would have been worse cap space wise and wouldn't have come with the second rounders. He admitted the L on it, but it could have been worse.

The Smith and Shumpert trade is a wash. He needed cap space and nobody wanted JR Smith. The Cavs were gonna turn that deal down until Lebron told them he could take care of Smith and they still demanded to talk to Smith before the deal was consummated. That wasn't talent evaluation, it was character issues and locker room issues (and this isn't from NY beatwriters, Windhorst said it so there's no spin from Phil involved).

The other deal he made was an obvious win. Prigioni to the Rockets for two second rounders and Alexey Shved who absolutely went off for the Knicks despite being an odd fit for the triangle (no jumper whatsoever).

So in his three major deals (not counting the spare parts flips), he took one admitted loss, came to a mutually beneficial agreement while dumping a contract that nobody in the league wanted (a wash), and clearly won a deal. Really there's just been too limited a selection of moves to judge him too much one way or the other. He did all of this while capped out with only minor assets and the one consolation from his moves are that he's gathered more minor assets (four more second rounders than when he started if I'm not mistaken). This offseason is when he can actually show something. He's got a high pick, 27 million in cap space and a year of experience under his belt.
 

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The most likely outcome of these rumors would be the knicks are looking to move down which makes sense since a number of teams have been rumored to want to move up. However, its a lot more interesting to put out the idea the knicks are looking to do a giant reach with #4.
 

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Mudiay falls to the Kings.

we trade Lawson to the Kings for Mudiay.

draft Justise or Mario with our pick.

dream scenario 100% complete.

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Mudiay falls to the Kings.

we trade Lawson to the Kings for Mudiay.

draft Justise or Mario with our pick.

dream scenario 100% complete.

My dream scenario is the knicks draft mudiay and then pull that trade as a 3 team deal with you and the kings and the Knicks get #6 and #7 for their trouble. :takedat:

We take WCS with one of those 2 picks and then trade him to Boston for even more picks:blessed:
 
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