Knicks & Rockets Do "All lives Matter" Demonstration
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If he was really with the revolutionary shyts he would have boycotted the Olympics instead of being the poster boy for it...I expected way more from Carmelo Anthony.
Melo was never that dude for the movement...
Any of you brehs get this to Miko Grimes yet?
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How many times we gonna go through this
? 1) Kap did it for 3 straight games before it was noticed and blew up.
2) He didnt mention or promote it till he started getting asked questions.
3)Theres a Coli thread here that took note of how his social media content changed a whole lot over the past few years and this dates back to when he was a starter.
4) What brand is he getting endorsements from off his protest? The popularity of his jersey has been entirely organic. No way anyone could predict his move would be this popular with supporters. If you recall the first reactions were pure vitroil.
5) His protest provoked and challenged folks who need to be challenged....the NBA demonstration ensures everyone feels comfortable. Thats cool but that is not a protest.
THEY DONT HAVE TO SIT...
DONT LOCK ARMS...
ITS EQUIVALENT OF SAYING ALL LIVES MATTER
IN RESPONSE TO BLACK LIVES MATTER.
MOST OF THESE PLAYERS DONT EVEN REALIZE IT...
THEYRE FOLLOWING SEATTLE'S BLUEPRINT,
BUT SEATTLE ONLY DID IT TO PREVENT JEREMY LANE FROM SITTING ALL SEASON.
Cel 510 kid ados forever
Veteran
nikkas soft
that damn picture got all the praise in the world tooBut Carmelo went to a Favela
nikkas was hypin the shyt out of that and his instagram post
If I was a woman I would never husband up any of these athletes. NONE of them seem to take a stand. Its embarrassing. People always love to bring up how if we were in that position we wouldn't take a stand at our own jobs and lose money like that. Well there are different income brackets in play. If we do something we lose our entire salary if they do something they can still feed their family for 3 generations.
Even when they lose money they can still make it back and there will be Black companies who support them for what they do. Is Jim Brown the only athlete who had balls to take a stand in his career? There is ALWAYS other companies(BLACK) out there who will support you if you make a stand but none of these guy because nobody ever tries.
Cam Newton started to speak out very briefly before his Super Bowl loss and then losing unpopularity. Then he started losing his mind and c00ning all because he didn't want to lose an OIKOS YOGURT ENDORSEMENT
Got no damn pride or sense of passion at all. Then we wonder why no matter our income salary why Black women dont show us respect. Too many of these guys are pussies man.Thinking they doing shyt by turning their Clippers jerseys inside out and making Academy Award like speeches at ESPYS telling everyone to take a stand. 3 months after telling people to take a stand Lebron is out here lobbying and endorsing a white woman who called these same victims "superpredators".
What did Tamir Rice mother say about Obama again? "I dont know how you sleep at night"? This is how i feel about some of these athletes. I wonder decades from now if they will feel any shame or guiilt at all for what they could have done or what they didn't do. in this era. If money and their career is one thing FINE...but then they still don't do shyt even when they retire
Even when they lose money they can still make it back and there will be Black companies who support them for what they do. Is Jim Brown the only athlete who had balls to take a stand in his career? There is ALWAYS other companies(BLACK) out there who will support you if you make a stand but none of these guy because nobody ever tries.
Cam Newton started to speak out very briefly before his Super Bowl loss and then losing unpopularity. Then he started losing his mind and c00ning all because he didn't want to lose an OIKOS YOGURT ENDORSEMENT
Got no damn pride or sense of passion at all. Then we wonder why no matter our income salary why Black women dont show us respect. Too many of these guys are pussies man.Thinking they doing shyt by turning their Clippers jerseys inside out and making Academy Award like speeches at ESPYS telling everyone to take a stand. 3 months after telling people to take a stand Lebron is out here lobbying and endorsing a white woman who called these same victims "superpredators".
What did Tamir Rice mother say about Obama again? "I dont know how you sleep at night"? This is how i feel about some of these athletes. I wonder decades from now if they will feel any shame or guiilt at all for what they could have done or what they didn't do. in this era. If money and their career is one thing FINE...but then they still don't do shyt even when they retire
But but I thought the NFL was full of c00ns but the NBA players were legit.
Exactly. nikkas acting like they weren't JUST last month on some:
"Dude, I'm not watching the NFL anymore, I'm tired of these c00ns...can't wait for the NBA season to start....."
Well, by THAT logic, you goofy fakkits shouldn't be watching the NBA this season EITHER....right? Right?
Let see how you morons try to spin this one.
That's cause alot of these dudes are frauds.
We talmbout cats who scream "Black Excellence!!", but then openly lust after PAWGS while simultaneously shyttin' on Black women.
They talk all that "Black militancy" rhetoric online and yet be timid as hell in real life. It's like they come on THIS site to live out their "revolutionary Black man" fantasies.
If I was a woman I would never husband up any of these athletes. NONE of them seem to take a stand. Its embarrassing. People always love to bring up how if we were in that position we wouldn't take a stand at our own jobs and lose money like that. Well there are different income brackets in play. If we do something we lose our entire salary if they do something they can still feed their family for 3 generations.
Even when they lose money they can still make it back and there will be Black companies who support them for what they do. Is Jim Brown the only athlete who had balls to take a stand in his career? There is ALWAYS other companies(BLACK) out there who will support you if you make a stand but none of these guy because nobody ever tries.
Cam Newton started to speak out very briefly before his Super Bowl loss and then losing unpopularity. Then he started losing his mind and c00ning all because he didn't want to lose an OIKOS YOGURT ENDORSEMENT
Got no damn pride or sense of passion at all. Then we wonder why no matter our income salary why Black women dont show us respect. Too many of these guys are pussies man.Thinking they doing shyt by turning their Clippers jerseys inside out and making Academy Award like speeches at ESPYS telling everyone to take a stand. 3 months after telling people to take a stand Lebron is out here lobbying and endorsing a white woman who called these same victims "superpredators".
What did Tamir Rice mother say about Obama again? "I dont know how you sleep at night"? This is how i feel about some of these athletes. I wonder decades from now if they will feel any shame or guiilt at all for what they could have done or what they didn't do. in this era. If money and their career is one thing FINE...but then they still don't do shyt even when they retire
nikka shut up..
These bytches don't give a fukk about that shyt
Exactly. nikkas acting like they weren't JUST last month on some:
"Dude, I'm not watching the NFL anymore, I'm tired of these c00ns...can't wait for the NBA season to start....."
Well, by THAT logic, you goofy fakkits shouldn't be watching the NBA this season EITHER....right? Right?
Let see how you morons try to spin this one.
even a white dude calling these dudes out for this shameful shyt, are these nikkas that clueless that they don't understand the optics of what they're doing?
NBA’s national-anthem demonstrations fall short of Colin Kaepernick’s meaningful protest
NBA’s national-anthem demonstrations fall short of Colin Kaepernick’s meaningful protest
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By Dan FeldmanOct 5, 2016, 2:05 PM EDT
NBA teams are locking arms during the national anthem, believing they’re continuing the legacy of Civil Rights marchers in the 1960s and Colin Kaepernick today.
They are not.
Civil Rights marchers and Kaepernick took courageous stands against racism. NBA teams have so far responded with a demonstration too inoffensive to work.
Kaepernick found a nearly perfect protest method. He remained peaceful, drew attention and then advanced the discussion of police violence against blacks. By sitting then kneeling during the national anthem, Kaepernick shocked the senses of the viewing public. Though many have overly focused on his method of protest, they still wanted to hear his justification for such a “radical” demonstration.
But take a step back and consider whether Kaepernick’s display is truly outrageous. What’s a bigger affront to American values, someone sitting for a song or the country not providing full rights and protection under the law to its black citizens? Though not everyone has thoughtfully considered Kaepernick’s point, many have been forced to confront that question.
At best, NBA teams have distracted from Kaepernick’s message. At worst, they’ve undermined it.
Not every NBA team is locking arms for the exact same reason, but the buzz word has been “unity.”
Unity, of course, would be fantastic. But it’s such a vague goal, it allows people to ignore real problems.
Many will say they’re for unity. Are they willing to speak out against police killing people who are disproportionately black? Are they willing to speak out against a criminal-justice system that is more likely to treat blacks more harshly at every step than their white counterparts in similar situations? Are they willing to speak out against housing discrimination that has left black people disproportionately in poorer, less safe neighborhoods with worse schools?
That’s the unity we need – everyone standing together against specific injustices.
What NBA players are doing is the equivalent of someone responding to #BlackLivesMatter with #AllLivesMatter.
Well, yeah. Of course, all lives matter. But people who respond to #BlackLivesMatter with #AllLivesMatter are nearly always just trying to change the subject. Rather than listen to genuine concerns from #BlackLivesMatter, #AllLivesMatter takes exception to the initial phrase. When it’s time to discuss whether a life mattered after the latest incident of police killing an unarmed black man, #AllLivesMatter is nowhere to be found.
There’s a real ignorance to the problems black people face in this country. Kaepernick is bringing attention to them. NBA teams are allowing people to ignore the specific issues and focus on a feel-good message of “unity” (and providing an excuse to hammer Kaepernick for not protesting more “respectably”).
Messages of unity too often lead to blaming those who recognize the divide, not those who perpetuate the divide.
I believe NBA players have their hearts in the right place, and many have shown they care through meaningful community work. That matters a great deal and shouldn’t be ignored. Neither should the fact that these are professional basketball players who have no obligation to take political stands.
But once they decided to demonstrate during the anthem, players are trying too hard to unite with their teammates who may hold differing views and conform to the NBA’s anthem rule that requires standing in a dignified posture. If you design a protest to appease your coworkers and bosses, you’re probably going about it the wrong way.
Not only is the message too milquetoast, so is the gesture fronting it.
If NBA teams locked arms during the anthem two months ago – before Kaepernick protested – nobody would have noticed or cared. It certainly would not have been perceived as a protest, let alone one on racial issues.
The Celtics best exemplify why NBA teams are falling flat in their anthem protests. They modeled their anthem posture after the 1960-61 team, which posed for a photo with black and white players crossing arms and holding hands:
But 2016 is not 1960.
In 1960, Jim Crow still ruled the South. College teams across the region remained all-white. The Redskins, playing in our nation’s capital, hadn’t even integrated.
Black and white Celtics holding hands was itself an act of defiance. So was Civil Rights marchers locking arms in the South. Many Americans opposed integration and blacks’ right to peacefully assemble.
Black and whites teammates holding hands does not carry the same weight in 2016. All major sports leagues, pro and college, are integrated. When it comes to blacks and whites playing basketball together, there isn’t another side to demonstrate against.
While Kaepernick kneeling signals a clear protest, you could go to a Celtics game and have no idea the team is protesting – let alone ever bothering to find out what they’re protesting.
And what are they protesting? This team-posted video provides little real information:
here’s a lot more of that around the league, players speaking in overly vague terms about their anthem protests.
Raptors forward Jared Sullinger provided, by far, the strongest statement I could findfrom from an arm-locking player:
“We felt great (about the protest) because at the end of the day we know what is right from right and what is wrong from wrong,” Sullinger said. “And what is going on in the United States is wrong. I just hate how it is going. I just wish people would wake up and open their eyes and understand that minorities are getting picked on. It’s obvious.
“We are not progressing,” Sullinger said. “We are regressing. As time goes by all those long fights that all these people, who sacrificed their lives for, it’s almost like making a mockery of it. At the end of the day, we can make a change. I’m talking from my nephew who is 13 years old to my dad who is 67 years old. We all can make a change some way. Every gesture matters.”
Does every Raptor player and coach who locked arms agree that minorities are getting picked on, that racism is worsening? That’d be a heck of a lot of unity – a meaningful amount. If so, I’d like to hear every other team member speak to it.
Right now, NBA teams aren’t saying much.
NBA’s national-anthem demonstrations fall short of Colin Kaepernick’s meaningful protest
NBA’s national-anthem demonstrations fall short of Colin Kaepernick’s meaningful protest
7 Comments
By Dan FeldmanOct 5, 2016, 2:05 PM EDT
NBA teams are locking arms during the national anthem, believing they’re continuing the legacy of Civil Rights marchers in the 1960s and Colin Kaepernick today.
They are not.
Civil Rights marchers and Kaepernick took courageous stands against racism. NBA teams have so far responded with a demonstration too inoffensive to work.
Kaepernick found a nearly perfect protest method. He remained peaceful, drew attention and then advanced the discussion of police violence against blacks. By sitting then kneeling during the national anthem, Kaepernick shocked the senses of the viewing public. Though many have overly focused on his method of protest, they still wanted to hear his justification for such a “radical” demonstration.
But take a step back and consider whether Kaepernick’s display is truly outrageous. What’s a bigger affront to American values, someone sitting for a song or the country not providing full rights and protection under the law to its black citizens? Though not everyone has thoughtfully considered Kaepernick’s point, many have been forced to confront that question.
At best, NBA teams have distracted from Kaepernick’s message. At worst, they’ve undermined it.
Not every NBA team is locking arms for the exact same reason, but the buzz word has been “unity.”
Unity, of course, would be fantastic. But it’s such a vague goal, it allows people to ignore real problems.
Many will say they’re for unity. Are they willing to speak out against police killing people who are disproportionately black? Are they willing to speak out against a criminal-justice system that is more likely to treat blacks more harshly at every step than their white counterparts in similar situations? Are they willing to speak out against housing discrimination that has left black people disproportionately in poorer, less safe neighborhoods with worse schools?
That’s the unity we need – everyone standing together against specific injustices.
What NBA players are doing is the equivalent of someone responding to #BlackLivesMatter with #AllLivesMatter.
Well, yeah. Of course, all lives matter. But people who respond to #BlackLivesMatter with #AllLivesMatter are nearly always just trying to change the subject. Rather than listen to genuine concerns from #BlackLivesMatter, #AllLivesMatter takes exception to the initial phrase. When it’s time to discuss whether a life mattered after the latest incident of police killing an unarmed black man, #AllLivesMatter is nowhere to be found.
There’s a real ignorance to the problems black people face in this country. Kaepernick is bringing attention to them. NBA teams are allowing people to ignore the specific issues and focus on a feel-good message of “unity” (and providing an excuse to hammer Kaepernick for not protesting more “respectably”).
Messages of unity too often lead to blaming those who recognize the divide, not those who perpetuate the divide.
I believe NBA players have their hearts in the right place, and many have shown they care through meaningful community work. That matters a great deal and shouldn’t be ignored. Neither should the fact that these are professional basketball players who have no obligation to take political stands.
But once they decided to demonstrate during the anthem, players are trying too hard to unite with their teammates who may hold differing views and conform to the NBA’s anthem rule that requires standing in a dignified posture. If you design a protest to appease your coworkers and bosses, you’re probably going about it the wrong way.
Not only is the message too milquetoast, so is the gesture fronting it.
If NBA teams locked arms during the anthem two months ago – before Kaepernick protested – nobody would have noticed or cared. It certainly would not have been perceived as a protest, let alone one on racial issues.
The Celtics best exemplify why NBA teams are falling flat in their anthem protests. They modeled their anthem posture after the 1960-61 team, which posed for a photo with black and white players crossing arms and holding hands:
But 2016 is not 1960.
In 1960, Jim Crow still ruled the South. College teams across the region remained all-white. The Redskins, playing in our nation’s capital, hadn’t even integrated.
Black and white Celtics holding hands was itself an act of defiance. So was Civil Rights marchers locking arms in the South. Many Americans opposed integration and blacks’ right to peacefully assemble.
Black and whites teammates holding hands does not carry the same weight in 2016. All major sports leagues, pro and college, are integrated. When it comes to blacks and whites playing basketball together, there isn’t another side to demonstrate against.
While Kaepernick kneeling signals a clear protest, you could go to a Celtics game and have no idea the team is protesting – let alone ever bothering to find out what they’re protesting.
And what are they protesting? This team-posted video provides little real information:
here’s a lot more of that around the league, players speaking in overly vague terms about their anthem protests.
Raptors forward Jared Sullinger provided, by far, the strongest statement I could findfrom from an arm-locking player:
“We felt great (about the protest) because at the end of the day we know what is right from right and what is wrong from wrong,” Sullinger said. “And what is going on in the United States is wrong. I just hate how it is going. I just wish people would wake up and open their eyes and understand that minorities are getting picked on. It’s obvious.
“We are not progressing,” Sullinger said. “We are regressing. As time goes by all those long fights that all these people, who sacrificed their lives for, it’s almost like making a mockery of it. At the end of the day, we can make a change. I’m talking from my nephew who is 13 years old to my dad who is 67 years old. We all can make a change some way. Every gesture matters.”
Does every Raptor player and coach who locked arms agree that minorities are getting picked on, that racism is worsening? That’d be a heck of a lot of unity – a meaningful amount. If so, I’d like to hear every other team member speak to it.
Right now, NBA teams aren’t saying much.