Kobe Bryant Is An All Time Great, Unless You Do The Math: VICE

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Kobe looks inefficient because of his penchant to take shots with a tremendously high degree of difficulty--not because of some foolish narrative of Kobe not being as good as the public thinks he is.

Having a penchant for taking shots that have a high degree of difficulty is what we we call stupid basketball.
 

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ok breh..

Kobe is great.. kobe would prolly be the goat if he played smarter... he was blessed with great teams... give a prime lebron or dwane wade the teams kobe had with phil jackson and all that and they never lose... lebron always had shytty ass coaches...
Lol if Kobe had 2 hof teammates and played in watered down east he'd never lose either...
 
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People keep talking about Kobe's "skills" but now when his athleticism is gone is when those skills should be on display. Where are they? Where is the elite post game and footwork that should allow him to get quality shots without getting by guys? Where's the off-ball catch and shoot game? Where's the play-making skills that would allow him to create for others? Dude is shooting 30% taking 8 3s a game. His skills have been greatly exaggerated :childplease: at him being more skilled than Mike. The only thing that alone could ever do better than Mike is launch 3s.
Horrible posting.
 

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This is already known though

The same people who support Kobe's ridiculous volume of shots and bricks are the same ones who did the same with A.I.

Being a volume shooter shouldn't be preferred over being a Reggie Miller, Allen, Curry (pre 2015) type that prides themselves on making the majority of their shots although they might not average 40 something points with 30 something shots.
 

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Kobe doesn't win without HOF teammates, stop it. Dude has done fukking nothing substantial without HOF teammates.

:childplease:

Outside of the GOAT big man, Hakeem Olajuwon, name the last Finals MVP to win without a HOF teammate.

Exactly...it doesnt happen.
 

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Kobe doesn't win without HOF teammates, stop it. Dude has done fukking nothing substantial without HOF teammates.
Being a Tim Thomas 3 away from beating a superior Suns squad (even without Amare) with a d-league roster isn't substantial? If only it was a best of 5 like it was before 2003, would seriously change detractor's perception of his but whatever.

That 08 team was looking like a top west team before Gasol came in, too; obviously they did better when he joined but they were 30-16 before his first game. That team wasn't even that great, there was little depth especially after Bynum went down, and somehow they were on pace for around 55 wins in a GOAT tier Western conference. That and the playoffs that year is why I ultimately consider 08 to be Kobe's peak.
 

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Last Finals MVP?? Where did that come from?

The person who led his team to a Championship aka win = Finals MVP.

Since you're saying Kobe needed HOF teammates to win, name the last person to lead his team to a Championship without a HOF teammate....excluding The GOAT Big Man.

What Im trying to say is, everyone needs good teammates to win.
 

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The person who led his team to a Championship aka win = Finals MVP.

Since you're saying Kobe needed HOF teammates to win, name the last person to lead his team to a Championship without a HOF teammate....excluding The GOAT Big Man.

What Im trying to say is, everyone needs good teammates to win.
Good teammates and HOF teamnates are two different things. Kobe has had good teammates before, but that isnt enough for him to win a championship or make it. He needs HOF guys.
 

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Good teammates and HOF teamnates are two different things. Kobe has had good teammates before, but that isnt enough for him to win a championship or make it. He needs HOF guys.

And so does everyone else:ufdup:

Nobody has lead a team to a Championship without a HOF teammate, besides the GOAT Big Man Hakeem Olajuwon, so what are you saying?
 

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And so does everyone else:ufdup:

Nobody has lead a team to a Championship without a HOF teammate, besides the GOAT Big Man Hakeem Olajuwon, so what are you saying?
Well plenty of people have led (not Kobe)

Hell LeBron did it twice
 

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umm.. so?
michael jordan is the goat but the worse gm in history
and you never played in the NBA and I'm supposed to listen to your stupid logic? :camby:

Smush Parker's opinion is slightly more credible than yours. Only because he played in the NBA.
 
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