Kobe Bryant's skill level was simply INSANE

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he averaged 31.4 on 48% shooting. He averaged 30 on 48.4% shooting and 29.7 on 50% shooting. Before ever playing with Bosh or Klove btw. Kobe's highest FG% is 46.9%, with Shaq.


Oh he shot 48% and scored 31?


Lets see how he did it

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He didnt have shaq commanding double teams down low and clogging the paint

dudes game is predicated on shooters opening space for him to drive to the hoop. Which inflates his fg% when he shoots 75% from inside 3 feet.

Kobe had to work around shaq, then gasol and bynum.

They cant comprehend this basic ass principle tho. Well, they dont want to comprehend common sense

You've been schooled on this idiocy before. Having a good low-post scorer makes the lane MORE open, because the low-post defenders have to respect the scorer instead of just leaving him to contest the guy driving.

When Lebron was scoring 30ppg in 2010, you think that him having Old Shaq clogging up the lane was somehow an advantage compared to Kobe having prime Shaq drawing double-teams in the early 2000s?

You think that defenders aren't leaving Tristan Thompson and Joel Anthony in order to contest Lebron's shots because they don't respect TT's scoring at all?

Kobe's BEST shooting days were mostly with Shaq in the paint, so your idea that Shaq is what hurt Kobe's fg% is just ignorant.




Every year you see lebron shooting under 37% combined from outside of 5 feet - to - just under the 3p line

Another dumb statement you've been schooled on before. First off, you're lying - you only get 37% by including 3pt shooting, ignoring that mid-30s% is GOOD for three-point shooting, and now you're claiming not to count it.

Second, Lebron's outside shooting numbers are at basically the same level as other elite high-volume facilitator/scorers of the last 20 years.

3-10 feet- average 40%, Lebron shoots 43%
46% Wade
45% Kobe
43% Lebron
39% McGrady
38% Iverson
33% Westbrook

10-16 feet – average 39%, Lebron shoots 36%
44% Kobe
40% Westbrook
39% McGrady
39% Wade
38% Iverson
36% Lebron

16-23 feet – average 40%, Lebron shoots 39%
42% McGrady
40% Kobe
40% Iverson
39% Lebron
39% Wade
39% Westbrook

Three-pointers – average 32%, Lebron shoots 34%
34% Lebron
34% McGrady
33% Kobe
31% Westbrook
31% Iverson
29% Wade


Of course, the two things that Lebron is better than all of them at, shots at the rim and threes, also happen to be the two things that have the highest efficiency and are the most important.




Kevin Durant is one of the most skilled players in NBA history. What kind of dumb shyt is this?

Reading comprehension swag, use your reading comprehension.



No one in here is arguing that dunking or great athletic highlights makes you better than someone else. Kobe's greatness lies in his technical skill. He did moves and had combinations of moves no one has ever done or even attempted. His footwork was sublime. His post moves were sublime. His ability to create space to get of his jump shot was sublime. These are the things we talk about when we talk about his insane skill level. We're not talking about SportsCenter highlights or dunks dummy.

That is EXACTLY what the guy I was replying to was talking about. Use your reading comprehension. You have a problem with the concept, then reply to him, not me.



Go outside and actually pick up a basketball rather than having your head buried in some math equations. You might learn a little something about the game then cause this post was simply RETARDED.

No, the person who can't figure out that a sarcastic statement in quotes is referring to SOMEONE ELSE's opinion is the one who is retarded.
 
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You do know the difference between 45% and 50% is one shot in 20?

Basically Kobe missed one more shot a game than LeBron in his career. Maybe it's just me but I don't give a fukk about that.

Especially when the end result of that 1 miss per game is a game as beautifully sublime as Kobe.

From a viewers perspective, give me Kobe's "inefficient" yet beautifully captivating style over LeBron's " efficient" yet mechanically boring style.

Maybe you get pleasure from seeing numbers on a stat sheet. But my enjoyment of basketball is actually watching the game. And Kobe's game is a million times more appealing to watch than LeBron or just about anyone else in the history of basketball not named Michael Jordan.

And? Missing one shot in 20 less than Kobe means you're barely an NBA level player.

One AB in 20 in baseball is the difference between a great hitter (.300) and an average hitter (.250).
 

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Find the best highlights of John Stockton and White Chocolate.

"Oh, look, White Chocolate has a better highlight video, he must be more skilled then!"


Find the best highlights of Vince Carter and Kevin Garnett.

"Vince Carter's highlights are WAY better, he must have been a better player than Garnett! Better than Duncan too!"


Find the best highlights of Gerald Green and Kevin Durant.

"Damn, look at those dunks! Gerald Green is a legend! Durant is boring, no skill at all!"
wait ur comparing Vince to KG to what ? best dunker ? we are talking about skills of ur favorite Lebron vs Kobe
is not hard to find quality videos of their skills set, instead of you keeps on writing about FG%
 
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Literally DAYS ago you were claiming that ring count don't matter, only eye test matter, and said that Hakeem >>> Duncan even though Duncan has five rings and Hakeem only has two.

Where in that post did I say that I rate Kobe over LeBron based on rings?

I only said Kobe's style is more conducive to rings than LeBron. Hence the huge difference in records in the finals.

I never said that was the reason I believe Kobe is better.

Reading comprehension breh.

No, Kobe is 5-2 in the Finals because he had a Shaq to lead the way. Kobe's shooting is WORSE in the Finals. If his technique was conducive to Finals, he wouldn't have shot around 40% in five of his seven trips there. :dead:

Even if we take out the rings with Shaq, Kobe still went 2-1 in the finals (.667 winning percentage). Way better than LeBron's 3-5 record.

So how about you chew on that. :sadbron:


So why is Lebron 8-23 on game-winning shots in the playoffs, while Kobe only 7-28 even though he had a longer career? :jbhmm:

You can pull up whatever numbers you want. You won't change what we saw. We saw Kobe take almost every big shot for him team in clutch moments of the finals. Compare that LeBron who commonly stands in the corner as he watches Kyrie go one on one.

I've never seen Kobe be a bystander in the clutch watching another player go one on one to decide whether he wins a ring or not. That's what happened with Bron in 2016. He watched as Kyrie won him a ring.
 
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And? Missing one shot in 20 less than Kobe means you're barely an NBA level player.

One AB in 20 in baseball is the difference between a great hitter (.300) and an average hitter (.250).

Well this ain't baseball.

This is why I say you cacs should stop talking basketball. It ain't for your kind. Our game is more about rhythm, style, and elegance. shyt you crakkas can't understand.

Basketball is more art while baseball is more mechanical. Two totally different sports.
 

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Hes like watching a bootleg version of a good movie i already seen before in theaters. Yea it's good bootleg(kobe) but I seen it at it's best version in theaters(jordan):yeshrug:
 

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Well this ain't baseball.

This is why I say you cacs should stop talking basketball. It ain't for your kind. Our game is more about rhythm, style, and elegance. shyt you crakkas can't understand.

Basketball is more art while baseball is more mechanical. Two totally different sports.

lol the gap between Ricky Rubio this year and Kobe is the same as Kobe and LeBron for their careers. Call it art, but putting the ball in the basket is the aim of the game. The more efficiently you can do that, the better you are at the game.

Peak Wade >>>> peak Kobe :mjgrin:
 

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Where in that post did I say that I rate Kobe over LeBron based on rings?

I only said Kobe's style is more conducive to rings than LeBron. Hence the huge difference in records in the finals.

I never said that was the reason I believe Kobe is better.

Reading comprehension breh.



Even if we take out the rings with Shaq, Kobe still went 2-1 in the finals (.667 winning percentage). Way better than LeBron's 3-5 record.

So how about you chew on that. :sadbron:




You can pull up whatever numbers you want. You won't change what we saw. We saw Kobe take almost every big shot for him team in clutch moments of the finals. Compare that LeBron who commonly stands in the corner as he watches Kyrie go one on one.

I've never seen Kobe be a bystander in the clutch watching another player go one on one to decide whether he wins a ring or not. That's what happened with Bron in 2016. He watched as Kyrie won him a ring.

Naw don't take out Shaq. Kobe put up 28 in the playoffs on 46% and 24 in the 01 finals. He averaged 26 on 46% in the playoffs and 26 on 50% in the 2002 finals. Shaq dont three peat without Kobe. Meanwhile Lebron aka the greatest in the world in his prime had Dwade lead the way in 2011 finals and still found someway to lose to an old ass Dirk, flabby Jason Kidd, Deshawn stevenson who Lebron called Soulja boy, Jj Berra andddddd Jason terry. They don't want us to count the rings with Shaq but want us to not count Lebron losing efforts. They want us to remember Kobe in 2004 but forget about 2011 so they can give Bron some edge in the comparison to the GOAT Jordan.
 
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one of the most skilled players i ever seen... ,,,,still never came close to shooting 50% like MJ/Wade/LBJ/Bird/Magic etc........

The FG% thing is overblown in my opinion especially when it comes to Bron. He is The Shaq Of The Perimeter so of course he's going to shoot a higher percentage. D Wade was another guy who made his bread & butter in the restricted area. At Kobe's zenith he could do it ALL. Penetrate, post, spot up, off screen, with contact...He was a robot
 

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:jbhmm: Were jerry stackhouse and Brandon Jennings averaging 28ppg over a damn near 15 year stretch?
Not for 15 years but I know Stackhouse scored like that in his prime on awful percentages. According to you Kobe vs LeBron is negligible because its just 5% and its like one made shot per game so therefore, prime Stackhouse was as efficient as Kobe. Nice work, Mrs. Cum.
 
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