Kobe Bryant's skill level was simply INSANE

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Shaq went from a 29ppg player to 22, 20 then 17 in Miami


You dudes is retards beyond comprehension
Shaq missed a lot of games during his time with Kobe on the Lakers. Why don't you post the stats from when Shaq was out? According to you, Kobe would have been getting to the basket regularly during those games without Shaq clogging the lane. Shouldn't this be an open and shut case? :troll:
 
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Swagland, where going three straight years without even winning a single playoff series is preferable to losing in the Finals. :mjlol:

There area lot of stupid Kobe arguments, all of which you have used, but this is still forever the worst

If only Kobe played his entire career in a terrible conference where he had a free ticket to finals.

Unfortunately he played against those teams that have repeatedly owned LeBron in the finals.
 
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If only Kobe played his entire career in a terrible conference where he had a free ticket to finals.

Unfortunately he played against those teams that have repeatedly owned LeBron in the finals.

Exactly, Bingo!!


Look who was in Miami Heat division in 2011


Young af Wizards
The Magic after dwight
The bobcats!!!!
Atlanta Hawks :mjlol:


That year charlotte went 7-59
Wizards went 20-46

:francis:



B b but best ever
Cant even shoot a fukking jumpshot at 39%
 
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Shaq in the lane had nothing to do with Kobe, I don't know if you realize this but wade put up big numbers on great efficiency during his time next to the big fella

:mjlol: You do know there is a reason LeBron had guys like Bosh and Kevin Love camped out at the 3-point line. He doesn't have Kobe's versatility as a scorer. He could only score driving into the paint and didn't need defenders clogging it up. If a big is in the post, then the paint is permanently clogged. Kobe played his entire career with bigs who clogged the paint hence the reason he had to master the mid-range jump shot.

One of the biggest reasons LeBron's teams always lose in the finals is because he can only play one way. The LeBron-centric offense is not very good for winning championships against good teams. Its easy for teams to defend. However, the types of teams Kobe played on were more difficult to defend because he could do more than just drive into the paint. Because Kobe was so elite as a mid-range he could play with bigs like Shaq, Gasol, and Bynum clogging up the paint. That allowed his team to be able to attack defenses in multiple ways and thus they were able to win more rings than LeBron's teams.

LeBron's "efficiency" is one of the major reasons he keeps losing in the finals. He's not VERSATILE. He lacks the ability to play in different offenses and adapt to different schemes. All he can do is play LeBron James ball. And that type of basketball has now repeatedly been proven to be ineffective for winning championships.
 

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^ exactly and lebron tried to break down draymond green playing his brand of offense, which led to a bailout pass, and the Korver missed shot,


Which led to Durant rebound and BANG in lebums face.


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You can pull up whatever numbers you want. You won't change what we saw. We saw Kobe take almost every big shot for him team in clutch moments of the finals. Compare that LeBron who commonly stands in the corner as he watches Kyrie go one on one.

I've never seen Kobe be a bystander in the clutch watching another player go one on one to decide whether he wins a ring or not.

You know how many freaking examples there are of other players shooting instead of Kobe in the clutch? :usure:


2009 Game 2 against the Nuggets: Lakers down three with 5 seconds left in the game, and it's Fisher, not Kobe, who attempts the game-tying three.

2009 Game 2
against the Magic. Lakers down two with 33 seconds left in the game and it's Pau, not Kobe, who makes the game-tying bucket to send it into overtime. Kobe misses the potential game-winner with two seconds left. In overtime Kobe only scores 2 of the Lakers' 13 points, with Pau pouring in 7 to put away the game.

2009 Game 3 against the Magic. Kobe only scores 5 of the Lakers' 29 points in the fourth in a tight game (and two of those five are a meaningless layup with half a second left that only cuts the lead to two). Odom (8) and Pau (6) both outscore Kobe in the fourth.

2009 Game 4 against the Magic. Kobe doesn't score in the final 4:45 of regulation - instead it's a game-tying three by Ariza, a layup by Pau, and a game-tying three with 4 seconds left by Fisher that sends the game into overtime. Pau is once again the leading scorer in overtime with 5 points to Kobe's 4, but it's Fisher's game-winning three with 31 seconds left that gives the Lakers the 3-1 series lead.

2010 Game 3 against the Thunder, Kobe only scores 2 of the last 19 points in a tight game. Pau (4), MWP (4), Bynum (3), Odom (3) and Fisher (3) all outscore Kobe late. Kobe's only basket is a layup when the Lakers were down four with 13 seconds left and needed three, not two (Durant made both free throws and Farmar and MWP, not Kobe, tried to hit the threes to get it back).

2010 Game 6 against the Thunder, Kobe only scores 2 of the last 22 points in a tight game. MWP (5), Fisher (5), Walton (5) and Brown (3) all outscore Kobe late. When Kobe misses the potential game-winner with two seconds left, it's Pau that saves the game with a game-winning putback that keeps the series from going 7 and saves the Lakers from a potential first-round exit.

2010 Game 5 against the Suns, Kobe only scores 2 of the last 15 points in a tight game. Fisher (5) and Pau (4) both outscore Kobe late. When Kobe misses the potential game-winner with three seconds left, it's MWP that saves the game with a game-winning putback that keeps the Lakers from going down 3 to 2 heading into Game 6.

2010 Game 7 against the Celtics, Kobe only scores 3 of the last 15 points in a tight game, and those were on intentional fouls. Pau (7 points) is the Laker go-to man down the stretch. Once again it's MWP who makes the shot of the game, a huge three with a minute left that doubles the Laker lead.



And that's JUST those last two championships when Kobe was "the man". Game after game after game, it was Pau's dominance on offense and Pau/Fisher/MWP's clutch shots that made the difference for the Lakers.

Kobe was literally FOURTH on his own team in huge playoff shots during that 2009-2010 run.

The idea that "Kobe made all the shots in the clutch for those teams" is a straight myth and you just got owned. :camby:
 
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The saddest thing about Kobe is that he played in the wackest Lakers of all times in his prime.
Dude was too wild from 2005 to 2007, that team would've been 10-72 without him.

But all respect to him for not being like these new dudes and switching teams when times got hard.
 

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If only Kobe played his entire career in a terrible conference where he had a free ticket to finals.

Unfortunately he played against those teams that have repeatedly owned LeBron in the finals.

I must have missed when the 2006 Suns, 2007 Suns, 2012 Thunder, and 2013 Spurs owned Lebron in the Finals. :mjlol:

Not to mention those 8-seeds that pushed Kobe out of the playoffs in 2005 and 2014-2016. :mjlol:

Lebron never got outplayed by Kobe in a playoff series while facing the same opponent. But Lebron was significantly better against the 2008 Celtics and 2010 Celtics than Kobe was, he just didn't have the teammates to back him up yet.
 

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you nikkas shouldn't compare the skill levels of players cuz they don't have identical body type or athleticism. they all have pros and cons. bron might be more efficient due to his size and he's allergic to taking a bad shot. bbron is gunshy like aaron rodgers. bron don't force the issue. i laugh at rodgers stans saying rodgers has ridiculous TD:INT ratio!! well duh, rodgers don't gamble like favre did.

kobe got that MJ gene where he would will himself to come out of the slump. and he don't give no fukk about going 7-20. when bron has a bad night he go full beta. that's the difference in mentality not a skill set.

Mj didn't force shots if his shot wasn't going he would dominate on the other end then come back offensively and play within the system to get in his groove his game was sharp as hell specially during the second 3 peat he would average 30 off of damn near all mid range high post jumpers, he'd get the ball on the block see where the double was coming from spin to the other shoulder for a jumper or drive rinse and repeat
 
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