Kobe Bryant's skill level was simply INSANE

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You talking about losing to an old ass Dirk like Kobe didn't get swept by those same Mavs in 2011 and he was the same age as Lebron was when he got beat by the super Golden State.

Y'all talking about "Kobe don't win without Shaq" but the Heat/Cavs probably struggle to make the finals, much less repeat or win one for the land if Lebron isn't on those teams.

Kobe lost against the Pistons with Prime Shaq. How is that any less embarrassing than losing against Dirk or did two teams, with far less talent, manage to outplay/hustle their overconfident opponents in the finals?

If you gonna count Lebron's losing efforts, count Kobe's. Lebron getting mollywhopped by the Spurs, in 2007, in the finals ain't no worse than Kobe getting mollywhopped by the Suns in the first round that same fukking year. Hell, the Spurs were the eventual champions, at least.

Don't bytch about Lebron giving up against the Celtics while giving Kobe a pass for dropping a 3-1 lead against a 6'3 Canadian CAC and having one of the worst 2nd hands we've ever seen during a game 7 (By a superstar).

Be consistent with your criticism across both sides. Kobe has more rings, overall, but Lebron has more rings as the undisputed main man. If you out Kobe on those Cavs and give him the same help that Lebron had, he doesn't change anything. They'd still lose to every team Lebron lost too. You put Lebron on the Lakers, him/Shaq run the league but they'd struggle against the same teams and Lebron would still get beat out West until he got some real help. Phil would probably be better at developing Lebron and get him to work out his early career flaws.

For all this stanning and stupidity, no matter which way you side, the difference between Kobe and Lebron is minuscule, with minor advantages both ways.

Kobe's more technically sound, a more polished and explosive scorer, and has more versatile scoring skill set. Lebron's more physically gifted, less refined but more consistently dominant skill set, and is more versatile offensive player.

Kobe's an artist, Lebron is an architect. Kobe's goal is to break down his individual defender, Lebron's goal is to break down the defensive scheme (Drawing help or forcing the wrong rotation). It's funny because Kobe's most successful years are when he focused more on his all-around versatility and less on scoring whereas Lebron's is when he realizes he's an unstoppable scoring force.

Enjoy both of them and understand that neither of them are good as Jordan so stop comparing them to him.

The guy in your avatar says Kobe is the 2nd best player of all-time after Jordan and the best player of HIS ERA.

So please save me with this Kobe and LeBron are the same BS. Bron's best friend ain't even gonna say he's better than Kobe.

If ya man ain't even gonna back you up on this, it might be time to drop the subject.
 

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Shaq went from a 29ppg player to 22, 20 then 17 in Miami


You dudes is retards beyond comprehension

Shaqs last season with Kobe he averaged 21 a game shooting 58 percent from the field while kobe averaged 24 a game shooting 43 percent

Shaqs first season with wade he averaged 23 a game shooting 60 percent from the field while wade averaged 24 shooting 47 percent
 

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I just want you to answer me one question: Why is it only guys who never played the game that say Kobe isn't clutch?

Because
1) There is no universally agreed-upon definition for "clutch"

And
2) Every attempt at defining a clutch situation shows there are other players who have performed better

And
3) Over a long enough sample size any "clutch" performances will regress to the player's career averages.

The problem with "clutch" shots and plays is that those moments are tied to an emotional experience. Either good or bad. And it's that very emotional connection that makes it memorable and subject to biases.

Whatever a teammate may say about a player is interesting. But it's always to be taken with a grain of salt for the very reasons listed above.

It's staggering how you stans can't just appreciate and acknowledge Kobe's greatness without insisting that he's in that select peak tier of all-time players. Because he just isn't.

There's nothing wrong with being a top 12-15 player ever, which is what he is.
 

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Because
1) There is no universally agreed-upon definition for "clutch"

And
2) Every attempt at defining a clutch situation shows there are other players who have performed better

And
3) Over a long enough sample size any "clutch" performances will regress to the player's career averages.

The problem with "clutch" shots and plays is that those moments are tied to an emotional experience. Either good or bad. And it's that very emotional connection that makes it memorable and subject to biases.

Whatever a teammate may say about a player is interesting. But it's always to be taken with a grain of salt for the very reasons listed above.

It's staggering how you stans can't just appreciate and acknowledge Kobe's greatness without insisting that he's in that select peak tier of all-time players. Because he just isn't.

There's nothing wrong with being a top 12-15 player ever, which is what he is.

You talkig about duncan right?


Oh ok good.


Now keep sucking lebrons dikk while i finally put your dumbass on ignore
 
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Because
1) There is no universally agreed-upon definition for "clutch"

And
2) Every attempt at defining a clutch situation shows there are other players who have performed better

And
3) Over a long enough sample size any "clutch" performances will regress to the player's career averages.

The problem with "clutch" shots and plays is that those moments are tied to an emotional experience. Either good or bad. And it's that very emotional connection that makes it memorable and subject to biases.

Whatever a teammate may say about a player is interesting. But it's always to be taken with a grain of salt for the very reasons listed above.

It's staggering how you stans can't just appreciate and acknowledge Kobe's greatness without insisting that he's in that select peak tier of all-time players. Because he just isn't.

There's nothing wrong with being a top 12-15 player ever, which is what he is.


Hey white boy. There is a reason almost every NBA says Kobe is the best or 2nd best ever.

Go pick up a basketball and learn how to play the game. Maybe then you wont be so ignorant.
 

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when Dankster sees someone making a good point in a kobe thread:


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To the cats bringing FG% to the table, Shaq's career percentage is 58.2%. LBJ is bigger than Kobe and its easier for him to drive and body everybody down the paint and get a dunk or layup. Kobe's 3 pointers are waaay superior to Lebron's.
 
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Well he's damn near a carbon copy.

It was dope seeing that footwork near the 3 pt line though
I Give Kobe credit for using the inspiration and mimicking MJ's game enough to be such an effective scorer. He even improved his fadeaway/ long range game to extend his prime like MJ did
 

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Lebron be like, but but Kobe did the same thing :russ:

"that wasn't a travel... it was a journey to atlantis "



still trying to look for Lebron's footwork Dank, so for the meantime this or just post FG% of each players in the video :russ:
 
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