The irony
There are pretty much no offensive analytical statistics in which Kobe positively shows up as a top 10 player, with the exception of VORP, which if you were to use, you'd also have to concede to LeBron being number 1 in VORP over Jordan.
This is why Kobe stans have had to rely on false narratives like "5-2", when, in reality, Kobe was a 13ppg sub-40 percent shooter for his first "ring", the equivalent of Mario Chalmers on the Heat, and he got carried to Shaq for his next 2.
Other false narratives include "bu-bu clutch time", typically used in arguments against LeBron, except again, most statistics show that LeBron is more clutch. Then we talk about "bu-bu defense", but as even the article points out, Kobe has been a mediocre defender his whole career.
At this point, Kobe stans typically morph the argument and resort to non-basketball conversation to emphasize Kobe's greatness. It's around this point some fakkit like @Sccit will begin to talk about how "LeBron is the least respected superstar of all time," or how "Kobe would never let the league get stolen from him the way Curry did to LeBron," while failing to ignore that:
A.) Arguably no superstar has been physically bytched more than Kobe in his whole career. Between Shaq, Raja Bell, Reggie Miller, Chris Childs, so on and so forth. Also constantly caught crying on the bench during losses AND...
B.) LeBron took the league from Kobe in his god damn prime.
Actually, the irony in it all is that the "manufactured superstar" label often bestowed upon LeBron fits Kobe much better. No other superstar has gotten away with being given labels they don't deserve simply off of "reputation" the way Kobe has.
Hopefully this conclude this thread before it even gets off the ground.
This just in. Volume scorers who take lots of shots score lots of points.
LeBron got 1 60 point game to his name and it was on less shots and astronomically better efficiency than what Kobe routinely took to simply get 40.
This just in, Kobe's career scoring averages when he takes at least 30 FGA in a game? 41.6ppg on 45percent shooting.
Lebron? 41.2 on 47 percent shooting.
And if we were to compare their 40+ point games in which less than 30 FGs were taken, well do I even need to show you the #s? We know LeBron is the king of efficiency so Kobe's getting slaughtered there.
This is with LeBron have considerably less 30 FGA games. In other words, when LeBron wants to get on his Kobe, he's better at it than Kobe is.
There are pretty much no offensive analytical statistics in which Kobe positively shows up as a top 10 player, with the exception of VORP, which if you were to use, you'd also have to concede to LeBron being number 1 in VORP over Jordan.
This is why Kobe stans have had to rely on false narratives like "5-2", when, in reality, Kobe was a 13ppg sub-40 percent shooter for his first "ring", the equivalent of Mario Chalmers on the Heat, and he got carried to Shaq for his next 2.
Other false narratives include "bu-bu clutch time", typically used in arguments against LeBron, except again, most statistics show that LeBron is more clutch. Then we talk about "bu-bu defense", but as even the article points out, Kobe has been a mediocre defender his whole career.
At this point, Kobe stans typically morph the argument and resort to non-basketball conversation to emphasize Kobe's greatness. It's around this point some fakkit like @Sccit will begin to talk about how "LeBron is the least respected superstar of all time," or how "Kobe would never let the league get stolen from him the way Curry did to LeBron," while failing to ignore that:
A.) Arguably no superstar has been physically bytched more than Kobe in his whole career. Between Shaq, Raja Bell, Reggie Miller, Chris Childs, so on and so forth. Also constantly caught crying on the bench during losses AND...
B.) LeBron took the league from Kobe in his god damn prime.
Actually, the irony in it all is that the "manufactured superstar" label often bestowed upon LeBron fits Kobe much better. No other superstar has gotten away with being given labels they don't deserve simply off of "reputation" the way Kobe has.
Hopefully this conclude this thread before it even gets off the ground.
Self-fulfilling prophecy.
2016 and people are still thinking advanced stats were designed specifically to discredit Kobe. The advanced stats work fine for other player, the only people that have a problem with the results are the Stans who want to rate Kobe a lot higher than he actually is.
How can Lebron stans puff out their chest when their boy is staring down the barrel of losing his 3rd straight NBA Finals in a row (something never before done in NBA History), taking a 2nd straight L to Steph Curry in the NBA Finals, and having an NBA Finals record directly reverse of Kobe's (5-2 > 2-5)???
OP is about Kobe. No rational Kobe fan is denying the HOF worthy play of Lebron or decrying analytics. In fact, recent analytics advancements that do a better job of accounting for context and other factors have been much more favorable to Kobe.So are LeBron haters also stuck in 2008?
