Kobe punched teammate over $100

[Dave24]

Mitch has to somewhat be in you but, shyt he was a mj fan of you gonna follow his playbook follow all of it, also the god Patrice O’Neal, but bomani Jones is the literal example of a dude that went from lame to cool overtime and especially with his status

I am socially awkward and a herb, that's why I was asking.

 

[DropTopDoc]

I am socially awkward and a herb, that's why I was asking.

no you not, step one stop saying that shyt

step 2 you have to have the confidence of steph curry showing up to his wedding with a fro and no edge up

step 3 go listen to Patrice O’Neal and hotdamnirock who borrowed a lot from him but condensed it and gave you cliff notes









I would say listen to Tijuana jackson stuff but he took the shyt down since the movie came out

 

[Professor Emeritus]

fukking lost at the part where Phil Jackson had to endure watching Shaq's movies

Random related note - I used to do work for the guy who produced those films. Lived in a nice place in Manhattan Beach, near where the sand dune is, and had Shaq movie posters framed on his walls.

I always wondered why you would brag about producing "Steel" and "Kazaam".

 

[threattonature]

Imo the flaws with the book is that Kobe wouldn’t talk to Pearlman, Pearlman seems spiteful when talking about Kobe 90% of the time and, the one sided coverage he gave to the case in Colorado. If there was evidence that Kobe wasn’t guilty why not include that? The first story she gave was different from the one that was constantly repeated in the news and that’s detailed in the book.

It’s no secret who Kobe was when he was younger but this board isn’t mature enough for discussions like this. That’s why I feel excerpts being posted on here isn’t a good idea.

Nobody else on here’s read the book?

Late pass on this but did was over the top biased against Kobe. I knew what time it was with the early cheap shot about Kobe's rapping which while not great was not ear drum rupturing like Pearlman said. But the part I'm at now is him basically saying that Kobe giving NBA players (namely Stackhouse) that work while in high school was all a myth. He says Kobe wasn't even a top 10 player in the gym during that time. Then like a page or two better he brings up a convo where the Wizards GM asks John Lucas how Stackhouse was doing and he says Stackhouse wasn't the best 2 guard in the gym, Kobe was. So which is it, Kobe wasn't even one of the 10 best players or he was the best SG according to somebody that was actually there.

He also says early on that Kobe wasn't a blip on any scout's radar when he declared for the draft but then talks about him winning multiple player of the year awards and ABCD camp MVP while securing a huge shoe contract prior to announcing he was going pro.

 

[NotAnFBIagent]

This dude

 

[TheNig]

How are they slandering him? The story of him punching Samaki is out there and it’s from a book about the 3 peat lakers. The part about Kobe trying to be tough is true too, at the time you could see Kobe trying to be “edgy” and shyt. Especially in 04 when he had beef with damn near everybody. #8 kobe had that element where you could see him overcompensating for his suburban upbringing being around a lot of street nikkas. It wasn’t something that just stood out right in your face,but This shyt always been known if you followed him constantly from the beginning.

I agree with the edginess in 04 but I disagree with your reasoning.


I think the Colorado incident and the way the media and players around the league treated him during that time kinda turned him into that person.

 

[True Blue Moon]

Imo the flaws with the book is that Kobe wouldn’t talk to Pearlman, Pearlman seems spiteful when talking about Kobe 90% of the time and, the one sided coverage he gave to the case in Colorado. If there was evidence that Kobe wasn’t guilty why not include that? The first story she gave was different from the one that was constantly repeated in the news and that’s detailed in the book.

It’s no secret who Kobe was when he was younger but this board isn’t mature enough for discussions like this. That’s why I feel excerpts being posted on here isn’t a good idea.

Nobody else on here’s read the book?

Just finished it. Great book, but you're right. I was really disappointed at how one-sided the sexual assault case part of the book was. Only Kobe and ol' girl know 100% what happened in Colorado, but even with the reporting that ended up in the book, there were issues on her version of events that were fishy, but no questions were raised. But when it came to Kobe's end of things, the book steered the reader toward the conclusion that he likely did it.

He even ended it with the fact that the DA and detective believe to this day that Kobe was guilty. As a breh who used to cover crime and courts for a living as a newspaper reporter, that doesn't mean shyt. Prosecutors routinely have tunnel vision about shyt that they're blatantly biased and wrong about. If he was going to lean on their word, he should have also balanced it out by discussing the inconsistencies and question marks in play about the accuser.

Plus, Kobe was clearly an a$$hole in his younger years, but there wasn't a lot of levity or balance there either. Even when he closed out the epilogue, the author was kind of snarky about Kobe going out as selfishly as he came in by chucking so many shots in his final game. While Kobe clearly shot a comical number of shots, the vibe of how that last game played out in real-time just didn't match the tone the author used when describing it.

Though Kobe was clearly a one-man show in that game, every last one of his teammates was fukking falling all over themselves to give him the rock, and everyone in that arena and watching live was eating it up and along for the ride. You couldn't help but even think that the Jazz players weren't mad at it. To paint that as "Kobe being Kobe" in a negative way was just patently false, especially since at that time in his life, Kobe had become a much better and more compassionate teammate.

Like I said, I'm a former reporter, so I'm never sensitive about someone telling the facts how they happened. But in some areas, Pearlman was definitely harsh and had blinders on for whatever reason.

 

[Take It In Blood]

this belongs here

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

I’m late but I guess a book came out hatin on Kobe. I hope the publisher sends me a sample copy so I can piss on it and burn it.

 

[threattonature]

Just finished it. Great book, but you're right. I was really disappointed at how one-sided the sexual assault case part of the book was. Only Kobe and ol' girl know 100% what happened in Colorado, but even with the reporting that ended up in the book, there were issues on her version of events that were fishy, but no questions were raised. But when it came to Kobe's end of things, the book steered the reader toward the conclusion that he likely did it.

He even ended it with the fact that the DA and detective believe to this day that Kobe was guilty. As a breh who used to cover crime and courts for a living as a newspaper reporter, that doesn't mean shyt. Prosecutors routinely have tunnel vision about shyt that they're blatantly biased and wrong about. If he was going to lean on their word, he should have also balanced it out by discussing the inconsistencies and question marks in play about the accuser.

Plus, Kobe was clearly an a$$hole in his younger years, but there wasn't a lot of levity or balance there either. Even when he closed out the epilogue, the author was kind of snarky about Kobe going out as selfishly as he came in by chucking so many shots in his final game. While Kobe clearly shot a comical number of shots, the vibe of how that last game played out in real-time just didn't match the tone the author used when describing it.

Though Kobe was clearly a one-man show in that game, every last one of his teammates was fukking falling all over themselves to give him the rock, and everyone in that arena and watching live was eating it up and along for the ride. You couldn't help but even think that the Jazz players weren't mad at it. To paint that as "Kobe being Kobe" in a negative way was just patently false, especially since at that time in his life, Kobe had become a much better and more compassionate teammate.

Like I said, I'm a former reporter, so I'm never sensitive about someone telling the facts how they happened. But in some areas, Pearlman was definitely harsh and had blinders on for whatever reason.

The other huge bias that stuck out was his description of plays. He'd often say Kobe was driving and missed multiple wide open teammates for shots. Then I'd look the play up on youtube and everybody either had a defender a step away or there were one or two defenders in between Kobe and the offensive player that was wide open. That and him ignoring or completely brushing over instances of Kobe killing shyt. He takes the time to hype up fukking Mark Madsen of all people and credits him with the Lakers going on a run while offhandedly mentioning Kobe averaging 40 for a month.

 

[True Blue Moon]

The other huge bias that stuck out was his description of plays. He'd often say Kobe was driving and missed multiple wide open teammates for shots. Then I'd look the play up on youtube and everybody either had a defender a step away or there were one or two defenders in between Kobe and the offensive player that was wide open. That and him ignoring or completely brushing over instances of Kobe killing shyt. He takes the time to hype up fukking Mark Madsen of all people and credits him with the Lakers going on a run while offhandedly mentioning Kobe averaging 40 for a month.

Yeah, I definitely wondered about that too, but I haven't gone back to watch clips. I know that Kobe could be a chucker and that there were times his teammates hated it, but I was like damn, did I just completely misremember him taking over some of these games? It was overwhelmingly painted like he was always quadruple teamed and just chucking shots anyway. I know Kobe never saw a shot he didn't like, but you're right, a lot of those descriptions just felt more over the top than I remembered. The shot selection had to be annoying to Phil and teammates plenty of times, but there just wasn't a lot of balance to it. He really painted it like they just put up with him because he was a diva, and not that he was also taking souls with his offense.

Even when the team split up at the end, the author made it seem like Jerry Buss was loyal to Kobe out of nowhere. Mentioning what Phil and Shaq had done for the Lakers, but questioning what Kobe had done to be catered to. Kobe left himself open to lots of fair criticism, but those kinds of things just don't add up, man.

I definitely feel like Roland Lazenby's book, "Showboat," was fairer about those years, while still not letting Kobe off the hook the part he played in everything.

 

[Guess Who]

For anyone reading the book, in the early chapter titled 'Formation, ' the author harkens back to a rookie summer league game of Kobe's vs the Suns, and details nearly his every move en route to 36. Kobe forced nearly everything, but the author makes it clear the league was in store for something special.


This is that game.

Dude looked like a HOF player straight outta high school. Unreal.

 

[Swagnificent]

Why people acting like nobody should tell kobe stories since he died unless they are positive? Any icon who has died have unflattering books, stories or movies made about them. Look at pac.

I honestly love stories like this about Kobe more than the positive ones. Makes me appreciate him even more.

a$$hole Kobe and Jordan were always more likeable to me that their fake media personalities.

 

[DropTopDoc]

Yeah, I definitely wondered about that too, but I haven't gone back to watch clips. I know that Kobe could be a chucker and that there were times his teammates hated it, but I was like damn, did I just completely misremember him taking over some of these games? It was overwhelmingly painted like he was always quadruple teamed and just chucking shots anyway. I know Kobe never saw a shot he didn't like, but you're right, a lot of those descriptions just felt more over the top than I remembered. The shot selection had to be annoying to Phil and teammates plenty of times, but there just wasn't a lot of balance to it. He really painted it like they just put up with him because he was a diva, and not that he was also taking souls with his offense.

Even when the team split up at the end, the author made it seem like Jerry Buss was loyal to Kobe out of nowhere. Mentioning what Phil and Shaq had done for the Lakers, but questioning what Kobe had done to be catered to. Kobe left himself open to lots of fair criticism, but those kinds of things just don't add up, man.

I definitely feel like Roland Lazenby's book, "Showboat," was fairer about those years, while still not letting Kobe off the hook the part he played in everything.

i agree with your synopsis, but i think it was both, i think nikkas respected his game and basketball mind, but also hates that he would pass up open teammates on plays, shoot when he was off, and be a total a$$hole

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

It wasn't over $100, its principle...
When you in the presence of a real one, you can get your ass beat at any moment over principle...