So show me the cyborgs Kobe played against in say 2009
Ginobli
Ronnie Brewer
Arron Afflalo
Caron Butler
Sefalosha/Harden
Jerryd Bayless
Paul Pierce
Danny Green
Joe Johnson
Charlie Bell
Kirk Hinrich
Vince Carter
Jason Richardson
Dwyane Wade
Stephen Jackson
There are a couple good and ok defenders on this list, but where are the cyborgs that Kobe is playing against?
I hate hearing that Jordan was playing against athletically challenged players, when look at this list. There is a lot of trash and defensive liabilities right above you.
@Ginobli, Pierce, Johnson, Wince Carter, Affalo,
Harden 
being elite cyborgs that would shut down Jordan in his 1991 days.
who said these guys would shut down jordan? no one. i said jordan could easilyl shut down the short unathletic guys he was playing against. to make him look so much better on defense. when in reality he had lesser comp on the perimeter, thats the facts folks.
so he could not only score on short unathletic guys at will, with a very high fg%. but he could also shut them down easily as well for the same reasons.
kobe playing vs guys his height, size, strength, athleticism or moreso. means even if they cant stop kobe, they can make it a bit more difficult to get a shot off without a great outstretched arm. this effects your fg%. shooting vs a 6'5+ vince with hops(even thoughe he's not a defender). is much tougher then shooting over the top of a 6'3 hersey hawkins who was a much better defender then Vince. one guy is just to darn short and not nearly athletic enough to compete with the jordan's/kobes.
you can't teach height. and you also cant' teach ridiculous athleticism.
but lets look at your 2009 list and you are talking about who kobe would have to deal with.
These are the playoff teams kobe and the lakers beat in 09. LOL every team just about has multiple 6'6+ guys that are long and athletic. not one. but a few of them to throw at kobe.. some of them played at the same time during the game so kobe could be jumped by 2 of these types at once. jordan never had to deal with this. the first and only time he saw something like that was vs the lakers when kobe was a youngin(him and eddie jones, to very athletic wing players at 6'6 and long. that was the only team that put that kind of lineup out there at times that i saw somewhat bother jordan. and kobe was a bad defender at that point in his career, and eddie was to fraile and not strong enough for mj. u could see it in the 96'97 season when mike would meat up vs the lakers. that athleticism and length actually bothered mike. i almost couldnt believe it. )
chicago-Deng- 6'8 super long arms, defender, athletic.
Denver- JR smith (would play real defense on kobe and pretty much no one else all season long) & sunny weems(solid defender, no real offense) . both 6'5 to 6'6. both were athletic. JR was very athletic. i've seen jr cross kobe up and rack him up on a couple of occasions because he's so quick and athletic.
Boston- paul pierce is 6'6 and a good defender, he was athletic, tony allen 6'4+ very long arms + hyper athletic, VERYYY good defender(kobe admits to this)
Dallas- Josh howard 6'7 long athletic, old man stackhouse 6'6, Antoine Wright 6-7- athletic, gerald green 6'8-super hops, devean george 6'8 athletic , very long.
Cavs- Lebron the monster james 6'8 240+(moves like a sg) hyper athletic, very long, Delone west - 6'4 very athletic, very good defender, Sasha pavlovic - 6'8 (bad defender. but still 6'8 when you pull up for a jumpshot).
UTAH- Ronni Brewer - 6'7 long very athletic (serious defender), Kirilenko- 6'9 athletic, super long (alien length), CJ miles- 6'6 athletic -solid defense.
Orlando- Keith bogans - 6'5, athletic(solid defender), Courtney Lee 6'5 athletic(solid defender), Mickael pietrus (6'6) athletic solid defender
Houston- Battier- 6'8(solid defender but not that athletic.. he's the guy that started having everyone put their hand almost on guys faces when they close out), T-mac 6'8, athletic, super long, Von wafer- 6'5 very athletic, Ron Artest- 6'6 very long arms(not that athletic but strong as hell , very good defender).
Spurs- Bruce Bowen- 6'7 long(average athleticism, great defender), Finley 6'7 athletic(but old), Ginobili (6'6) athletic, decent defender, Ime Udoka 6'6 (not that athletic but a solid defender)
Philly- Andre Iguodala-(6'6) very athletic, strong, very good defender, long.
Miami- Dwade- 6'5 super long arms, hyper athletic, solid defender, Marion-cyborg-6'8, super long, very athletic
Portland. bayless was not guarding kobe back then, he was a kid(rookie) that played point guard.but batum was,
batum-6'8-has kevin durant wingspan, very athletic, cyborg defender.
Travis outlaw- 6'9 long, very athletic
Brandon Roy-6'6, very athletic, very good defender.
rudy fernandez- 6'6 athletic, not a good defender. but still 6'6 and athletic.
new orleans hornets: devin brown- 6'5(very good defender), Rasual butler-(6'7) long, athletic, solid defense, Morris Peterson 6'7-decent defender
James posey-6'8, very long, athletic (very good defender)
Atlanta: Maurice Evans- 6'5 hyper athletic, very strong(solid defender)
JOe Johnson- 6'6+, athletic, average defender
Josh smith-6'9, hyper athletic, very good defender.
Marvin WIlliams- 6'9 super long, athletic, average defender.
Detroit: Afflao-6'5 long(good defender, Rip hamilton 6'6 decent defender
Tayshaun Prince-6'9 (alien arms), athletic(very good defender).
However his chances of winning any let alone five would be severely diminished by playing for an org the caliber of the ones Jordan/Bron/AI were drafted to.
at the bolded. Above all, when you judge Kobe vs Lebron, or any other player, you have to look at his comp. I think more or less since Kobe has been in the L, Teams 1-8 in the West could win the 'ship at any given time. But unfortunately, we talking about Kobe vs MJ 
Kobe gonna lose that argument everytime 
, and I'm waiting for a nikka to mention Horace Grant 
