Kobe wasnt even the best player In his first 5 Finals

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Did you say Doug Christie was the second best SG in the West???

What about Michael Finley? What about Cuttino Mobley? What about Steve Smith? What about Manu?

Kobe had to play more def in the finals bc matchups dictated that. Shaq had cakewalks in the finals but don't forget he didn't even play to his avg against Portland & SA

Mobiley played for the Rockets and they never matched up with LAL during the playoffs so..........

Same thing with Michael Finley. Funny about Manu is that he wasn't there during the LAL 3-peat, his first year was coincidentally when SA beat LAL in '03 for the 2nd title, look at that now. Steve Smith was flabby status when he got to Portland, gimme Christie in SAC over Portland Smith 7 days out the week and twice on Sundays.

And you would know Kobe defended AI in spurts and contained him when he defended him

You are a stats geek with no context

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35 points a game is not contained, like at all. And it seems the man with the most all nba defense teams of all time had to resort to holding Eric Snow in the Finals :mjlol:

So being defended by Pippen/Patterson, Christie & Bowen while needing to avg 25-30 for your team to win is a cakewalk? You couldn't have watched the games back then. These guys were called Kobe-Stoppers bc they were out there to stop Kobe. That was their sole purpose

And ignore Shaq being guarded by Duncan/Robinson, Sheed, KG, Webber/Divac while averaging MORE than Kobe. Kobe had cake matchups. And Bowen got to SA in '02, their last title together. The first two it was Derek fukking Anderson :mjlol:

Point being, none of those guys you mentioned can go at Kobe like that on offense, so he was able to chill back on defense because no one was checking for those dudes on offense outside of Pippen. Meanwhile, Duncan/Robinson, KG, Webber can go at Shaq on offense, therefore Shaq had to do more than Kobe in the West.
 

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Mobiley played for the Rockets and they never matched up with LAL during the playoffs so..........

Same thing with Michael Finley. Funny about Manu is that he wasn't there during the LAL 3-peat, his first year was coincidentally when SA beat LAL in '03 for the 2nd title, look at that now. Steve Smith was flabby status when he got to Portland, gimme Christie in SAC over Portland Smith 7 days out the week and twice on Sundays.



35 points a game is not contained, like at all. And it seems the man with the most all nba defense teams of all time had to resort to holding Eric Snow in the Finals :mjlol:



And ignore Shaq being guarded by Duncan/Robinson, Sheed, KG, Webber/Divac while averaging MORE than Kobe. Kobe had cake matchups. And Bowen got to SA in '02, their last title together. The first two it was Derek fukking Anderson :mjlol:

Point being, none of those guys you mentioned can go at Kobe like that on offense, so he was able to chill back on defense because no one was checking for those dudes on offense outside of Pippen. Meanwhile, Duncan/Robinson, KG, Webber can go at Shaq on offense, therefore Shaq had to do more than Kobe in the West.

It's funny you say that bc you are WRONG bc you didn't watch the games

How old are you?

AI dropped 48 in game 1 on Fisher, Lue & Shaw. He finished the series averaging 35 in a 5 game series after dropping 48 in game 1. The diff was Kobe. Do the math Sherlock

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Shaq against the Spurs in 01 27 ppg
Kobe against Spurs in 01 33 ppg

Shaq against Kings in 01 33 ppg
Kobe against Kings in 01 35 ppg

You didn't watch the games so I won't entertain your foolishness

Kobe was lakers top playmaker, top defender, and would lead in scoring half the time...but he got carried???

You are naive and foolish
 

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Mobiley played for the Rockets and they never matched up with LAL during the playoffs so..........

Same thing with Michael Finley. Funny about Manu is that he wasn't there during the LAL 3-peat, his first year was coincidentally when SA beat LAL in '03 for the 2nd title, look at that now. Steve Smith was flabby status when he got to Portland, gimme Christie in SAC over Portland Smith 7 days out the week and twice on Sundays.



35 points a game is not contained, like at all. And it seems the man with the most all nba defense teams of all time had to resort to holding Eric Snow in the Finals :mjlol:



And ignore Shaq being guarded by Duncan/Robinson, Sheed, KG, Webber/Divac while averaging MORE than Kobe. Kobe had cake matchups. And Bowen got to SA in '02, their last title together. The first two it was Derek fukking Anderson :mjlol:

Point being, none of those guys you mentioned can go at Kobe like that on offense, so he was able to chill back on defense because no one was checking for those dudes on offense outside of Pippen. Meanwhile, Duncan/Robinson, KG, Webber can go at Shaq on offense, therefore Shaq had to do more than Kobe in the West.

Then you act like Horry, Horace & AC Green weren't the primary defenders on Duncan, Webber, Sheed

Shaq didn't defend PFs and when he defended Duncan in 03 they got torched

To this day, the 00 Blazers are the most talented team ever assembled

But you wouldn't know bc you don't have the necessary context

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It's funny you say that bc you are WRONG bc you didn't watch the games

How old are you?

AI dropped 48 in game 1 on Fisher, Lue & Shaw. He finished the series averaging 35 in a 5 game series after dropping 48 in game 1. The diff was Kobe. Do the math Sherlock

:mjlol:

Shaq against the Spurs in 01 27 ppg
Kobe against Spurs in 01 33 ppg

Shaq against Kings in 01 33 ppg
Kobe against Kings in 01 35 ppg

You didn't watch the games so I won't entertain your foolishness

Kobe was lakers top playmaker, top defender, and would lead in scoring half the time...but he got carried???

You are naive and foolish

Im 34 yrs old sir

be a top defender defending Eric Snow in a finals brehs :mjlol: bringing him down to 35 a game is not something to be proud, AT ALL

And against the Spurs, while you brought up matchups, you gonna ignore shaq being held by Duncan/robinson and kobe being held by Derek Anderson and Antonio Daniels? :jbhmm:
 

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I was going to refute this but why argue horseshyt?

Anyone trying to down play Deke's defense impact that year didn't watch or is lying.

Shaq dominated him because Shaq was godly at that point in his career

I'm a Lakers fan from Philly

Eric Snow was the best defender in that team
 

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Then you act like Horry, Horace & AC Green weren't the primary defenders on Duncan, Webber, Sheed

Shaq didn't defend PFs and when he defended Duncan in 03 they got torched

To this day, the 00 Blazers are the most talented team ever assembled

But you wouldn't know bc you don't have the necessary context

#NoContextPookie

Shaq guarded Robinson, who did Kobe guard during their run through the West. Funny he was holding SGs and then resorted to Eric fukking Snow in the Finals :mjlol:
 

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Im 34 yrs old sir

be a top defender defending Eric Snow in a finals brehs :mjlol: bringing him down to 35 a game is not something to be proud, AT ALL

And against the Spurs, while you brought up matchups, you gonna ignore shaq being held by Duncan/robinson and kobe being held by Derek Anderson and Antonio Daniels? :jbhmm:

If a guy drops 48 in game 1 and averages 35 for a 5 game series...do the math
 

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I'm a Lakers fan from Philly

Eric Snow was the best defender in that team
Eric Snow was a very good versatile defender and a hugely underrated part of AI's success so im not going to shyt on him but to suggest he was a better defender than Deke is silly and not worth debating.

You're entitled to these bad opinions you're giving here
 

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Eric Snow was a very good versatile defender and a hugely underrated part of AI's success so im not going to shyt on him but to suggest he was a better defender than Deke is silly and not worth debating.

You're entitled to these bad opinions you're giving here

Mutombo was an old man when the Sixers went to the chip...Snow was at his peak defensively

Maybe you forgot but Sixers defense was elite even when they had Theo Ratliff

Eric Snow was an underrated great defender...Mutombo got rebs & blks as a help defender w/ the Sixers
 

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Shaq guarded Robinson, who did Kobe guard during their run through the West. Funny he was holding SGs and then resorted to Eric fukking Snow in the Finals :mjlol:

Kobe didn't defend Mike Bibby, Pippen, Steve Smith, Bobby Jackson, Penny, Kidd (2000 Phx), etc...

You're reaching bc you don't have the context...Kobe proved to be a great defender, an explosive scorer, a clutch player all at an early age

He would literally save the Lakers when Shaq used to choke in the fourth

Y'all disrespect him & it's sickening

In his early yrs, he was better than 95% of superstars in their prime

And Shaq doesn't win 3 straight with no other player but Kobe, period
 

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Mutombo was an old man when the Sixers went to the chip...Snow was at his peak defensively

Maybe you forgot but Sixers defense was elite even when they had Theo Ratliff

Eric Snow was an underrated great defender...Mutombo got rebs & blks as a help defender w/ the Sixers
I didn't forget anything. I was talking about Ratliff on the 6ers very recently with someone who was trying to label Deke as a weakside defender on here. They were also a kobe stan trying to downplay Shaq.

Mutombo was still the best defensive big in the NBA that season. Duncan and Shaq when he wanted to be were still right there with him (Garnett too but in a much different way).

You lying about his impact doesn't make what Shaq did any less great or what Kobe did any different:manny:
 

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Y'all talking about Eric Snow as if there isn't video on YT of Kobe locking up AI with ease during that season.
 
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