Kobe's classic game 7 against the Suns

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You right no excuses, that’s why he won a title with many players from that same team a few years later. Guess Bean Ball did work. :mjgrin:

You mean like how Bron won a title in 16 with damn near the same squad minus his only other legitimate help :mjgrin:
 

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Kobe stans doing a lot of

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After saying Bron got no excuses the past week :russ:
 

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LOL THESE BRON GROUPIES REALLY BEIN DISGUSTINGLY DISINGENUOUS OUT HERE TRYNA ACT LIKE THIS CAVS TEAM WAS COMPARABLE TO THE SMUSH, KWAME, LUKE LAKERS LMFAOOOOOO

NO BIITCH

THE CAVS CAST IS COMPARABLE TO THE TEAMS KOBE WON BACK TO BACK WIT

TRY AGAIN
 

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Lol, we just see it two different ways bro we ain’t gonna agree. What we see as truth just ain’t the same. Not that we ever had regarding this subject. If you can honestly sit there and say that Kobe didn’t learn how to be a better teammate and leader after Shaq left then how impartial are you really? Are you saying his career is just dumb luck?
Bruh, just make an argument and let's leave the emotions out of it. Where's the evidence that Kobe became a better leader and teammate? He wasn't a good leader and teammate during the Dwight Howard years. He wasn't a good leader or teammate during his last few injury riddled years with that young crew. He was never a particularly good teammate or leader.

think that Kobe was a great player. He just wasn't as good as his fans believe him to be. His career wasn't dumb luck, it was god given attributes/talent mixed with a lot of hard work and a lot of good fortune. As great as Kobe was he was even more fortunate. If he had began his career in Charlotte, it plays out completely different. There's no guarantee he gets 1 ring, let alone 5.

My question is relevant because no one can answer it despite their declarations that Kobe gave no effort or didn’t try in that game. What I can agree on though, is that having this incident on his record (it looked bad whether he was right or wrong) and saying what he said didn’t make him the best messenger but I still agree with his points.
Your question is irrelevant because my point isn't about him shooting. My point isn't about his lack of effort. If you say that he was following the "be a playmaker for others" game plan then fine, but that doesn't explain why he wasn't being a playmaker for others:heh: He wasn't doing ANYTHING, is my point. He had clearly quit.

Lmfao at Odom being a better replacement that Love. Love was at least hitting his threes, Odom wasn’t gonna give you a bunch of offensive support like that. Perhaps in addition to what they had, Odom from those Lakers title squads could’ve made a big difference but not by himself.
Love was a whopping 9-28 from 3 in the finals. Stop it man. I stand by what I said. That version of Odom would've been a better fit for this cavs team than Love. People think that th only way to play with Lebron is to be a spot up shooter but that's just ignorance of the game. An Odom type player wouldn't have to be a spot up shoote playing with Lebron. A guy who could actually create off of the dribble could easily play the draymond green role in "bron-ball" and take advantage of mini 3on2s and 2on1s that the attention Lebron draws. If the cavs had anybody that could create consistently off of the dribble besides Lebron they would've been a much better match for the warriors. Plus that version of Odom was his own match up problem.
 

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The front office abd Phil figured it out. The front office figured out how to get the talent around Kobe and Phil was able to figure out how to mold them into a championship team. Kobe didn't change anything. He was the same kind of player in 2009-20-10 as he was in the first few years post-shaq.

Which is exactly why he was criticized for gunning going "psycho-bean" in that game 6 loss despite the fact that he scored 50. He then came out and started the same shyt in game 7 and I suspect Phil said something to him at halftime which lead to him pouting and refusing to shoot/play hard in the second half. It wasn't just about him not shooting. He was clearly out there just coasting going through the motions. He wasn't playing hard. He was not setting teammates up, hustling for rebounds and lose balls or any of that. He quit in that second half and everybody saw it. You clowns do nothing but lie.
Kobe only had 1 assist.... the whole game, so he quit flat out. Plus the Lakers were only down 10 at halftime, so it wasn't like they were getting blown out. like you said, he went into pout mode. Where's @Sccit? he was putting up a good rebuttal when I brought the Suns series.
 

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Kobe only had 1 assist.... the whole game, so he quit flat out. Plus the Lakers were only down 10 at halftime, so it wasn't like they were getting blown out. like you said, he went into pout mode. Where's @Sccit? he was putting up a good rebuttal when I brought the Suns series.

BECAUSE I SPEAK THE TRUTH ....

KOBE NEVER QUIT .. HE SCORED 20 IN THE FIRST 2 QUARTERS AND LAKERS WAS DOWN 15 AT THE HALF

PHIL JACKSON’S GAMEPLAN WAS FOR KOBE TO FALL BACK AND ALLOW THE OTHERS TO TRY AND GET IT GOING .. KOBE DID AS INSTRUCTED, AS THERE WAS NO WAY HE COULD BEAT THE SUNS SINGLE-HANDEDLY

THIS SAME EXACT GAMEPLAN WAS IMPLAMENTED IN GAME 4 WHERE KOBE DIDN’T SHOOT IN THE 4TH UNTIL THE FINAL BASKET HE MADE TO SEND THE GAME TO OT - BUT WAS THAT “QUITTING” WHEN IT LED TO A LAKER VICTORY?

THIS WHOLE “QUITTING” THING IS JUST LEBRON FANS REACHING TO TRY AND DRAW PARALLELS BETWEEN THEIR KING AND A GOAT
 

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As close as those games were and as lackadaisical as the Warriors were playing you can’t tell me LeBron wasn’t good enough to at least steal a game or two. Kevin Love isn’t an excuse because he actually showed up for once. You acting like every game was a blowout by halftime.

No one is even saying win the series. But notice how Kobe was clearly overmatched and still figured enough out with his coach to take it to 7 while LeBron couldn’t even get one when he supposedly a superior player and better than Jordan according to some. How does that look breh? No hate at all, LeBron is talented enough and his team played hard enough to steal a game or two. Why is it a problem to admit that?
Kobe stans, ya'll.

Kobe wasn't as overmatched as LeBron was. They went to 7 because they had superior coaching, the Suns weren't a good defensive team, and they had a gameplan of pounding them on the boards and slowing down the tempo because they had a much bigger frontcourt. The '07 Suns aren't even on the Dubs level, they didn't even have STAT that year. It doesn't matter if games weren't a blow out by halftime, the Dubs always coast through the first half and then destroy you in the third quarter everybody knows that. It's a 73-9 team that added Kevin fukking Durant.

The only game LeBron could have won was the first one where he dropped 51, and we saw what happened between the officiating, Hill missing the game clinching FT, and J.R.'s blunder. That's the only game they could have possibly won. Nikkas can't do it alone, Jordan was putting up numbers and getting swept out the First Round the whole 80's.

Also, you acting like LeBron didn't take the Warriors to 6 in 2015 without Kyrie and Love.
 
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