Kobe's defense-Underrated?

[Biscayne]

 

[Rout3r2035]

If by underrated you mean severely overrated then yes

 

[lurkinlikeamf9]

Top 15 all-time in steals

Bean was a monster in the passing lanes.

 

[Biscayne]

If by underrated you mean severely overrated then yes

Explain...

 

[ALonelyDad]

He was a very good defender, he definitely took a step back and started playing that roaming defense but he was still very effective. And if he wanted to really try he would shyt you down. Idk who it was but in the last season some player had a very good first half and then Kobe guarded him 2nd half and he scored like 2.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Explain...

Kobe was a fantastic lockdown defender on players with a similar build to him. But he rarely employed that ability more than a couple times a game, especially after Shaq left. Instead, he spent of the game playing the free safety role and poaching passing lanes.

Once the Lakers became elite again, they relied on Ariza ('08 and '09 seasons) and Artest ('10-'13) to guard the other team's most dangerous swingman.

I can't think of a single playoffs where Kobe locked down an elite counterpart for a series.


Also, it's way easier to play lockdown defense when you have strong rim protectors behind you. He was up in people's faces in the Shaq era because he didn't have to worry as much about what they'd do in the lane if they got around him.

I think Kobe had elite defensive ability at his position. But he usually conserved his energy for offense. He certainly didn't deserve the 2nd half of the All-Defensive nods he got.

 

[d o L o b]

Kobe is the only 9x 1st team defender without a DPOY.

That would make him overrated.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

Kobe was a fantastic lockdown defender on players with a similar build to him. But he rarely employed that ability more than a couple times a game, especially after Shaq left. Instead, he spent of the game playing the free safety role and poaching passing lanes.

Once the Lakers became elite again, they relied on Ariza ('08 and '09 seasons) and Artest ('10-'13) to guard the other team's most dangerous swingman.

I can't think of a single playoffs where Kobe locked down an elite counterpart for a series.


Also, it's way easier to play lockdown defense when you have strong rim protectors behind you. He was up in people's faces in the Shaq era because he didn't have to worry as much about what they'd do in the lane if they got around him.

I think Kobe had elite defensive ability at his position. But he usually conserved his energy for offense. He certainly didn't deserve the 2nd half of the All-Defensive nods he got.

Allen iverson? Tracy mcgrady?

 

[LeMAO]

better 1v1 defender than Lebron

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

Kobe is the only 9x 1st team defender without a DPOY.

That would make him overrated.

That only meant that somebody else on the team was better than him

 

[Inertia Creeps]

Kobe is the only 9x 1st team defender without a DPOY.

That would make him overrated.

Tim Duncan has 15x All-Defensive team nominations and never won DPOY once, is Tim Duncan an overrated defender??

 

[d o L o b]

That only meant that somebody else on the team was better than him

U might've misunderstood what I said.

In the history of these selections only 4 players have been voted to the 1st team 9 times (Jordan, Payton, Garnett, Kobe).

Kobe is the only one of those guys to never win DPOY.

Doesn't add up, how are u a 9 time 1st team defender but never in the DPOY picture. That can only happen if he was indeed getting overrated.

 

[d o L o b]

Tim Duncan has 15x All-Defensive team nominations and never won DPOY once, is Tim Duncan an overrated defender??

I clearly said 1st teams my g.

 

[KingJay]

I clearly said 1st teams my g.

Duncan is 8x first team and 7x second team. You're clearly cherry picking here to shyt on Kobe arbitrary ass 9

 

[Remote]

There's nothing underrated about Kobe at this point.
Especially on this fukkin board.