Kurt Angle Breaks Down Why Fans Hate Roman Reigns

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These are obvious facts. Look at Sheamus at that time. Dude went from feuding with Goldust and Shelton Benjamin to beating Cena in the most pussified way possible. Fans pooped on him until he got in somebody's doghouse.

Usually they at least had the fortitude to only push heels like that. Pushing faces like that is no bueno unless you're like Taker.
 

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the other thing is if you look at Brock who was pushed to the main event quickly too, you will see the difference. Brock in 02 was beating legends and was doing it in a way where you took notice, not back and forth hard fought battles (Roman/Bryan) where he doesn't build much character; he (Brock) just annihilated them showcasing him as a true monster. He also had Heyman speaking for him which helped too.

In hindsight, Roman should have been the one to turn on the Shield, join the authority, build up his on little stable and call it the Roman Empire and dominate for a lil bit then have the authority turn on him and have Roman become a tweener Goldberg-esque character.
You and Kurt have valid points because Brock won KOTR and the IC title on his rise

Aside from what you mentioned, the real reason is that he got pushed over DB

I personally think he won the RR a year too late
 
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Not that you can compare the guys or the eras but the fact that The Rock in LESS than two years went from DIE ROCKY DIE to one of the most over wrestlers ever while Reigns in year 3 of his push is getting xpac heat more than ever is just :mjlol: :mjlol: :mjcry:
They're trying way too hard recreate lightning in a bottle. But they're missing one key ingredient: a heel turn. All the biggest stars had a heel turn at one point. Rock , Cena, Orton, Austin, HBK, HHH, Bret, etc. If they want him to be that guy, it has to happen. The fact it hasn't happen in 3 years is a travesty. I don't think the Shield were ever truly heels. They came across as tweeners similar to DX post HBK's retirement in the late 90's.

I'm #ReignsGang, but it's over for breh if he doesn't get a heel turn in 2017 :francis:
 

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Royal Rumble 2015 is when people said "fukk this guy."

They wanted Bryan to get his "win" back (even though he won and was out due to injury.) Pushing Bryan out of the title and demoting him to IC while pushing Roman was never going to work in this climate. They should have never gave in and did the Bryan finish at WM30. Heel Batista should have won that night and they could have gave it to Bryan when the movie came out. Giving in to the fans turned them all into babies who can't enjoy a show without directing it.
 

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The injury didn't help either, fans got behind Dean when it came to Seth and HHH but we all knew they wanted Roman to be the guy.
And on top of that they gave him all of those awful satellite interviews that just made him look like a jackass.
 

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Yep. A lot of people here either fall heavy on one side of the the fence where it's either Bryan's fault or Roman just sucks and nobody was ever behind him.

The real answer is somewhere near the middle. It is not Bryan's fault at all but him coming back around when they were starting Roman's push didn't help Roman at all. As for Roman, he got too much of a push way too fast and it would up blowing up in their (and more importantly his) face. He was the most over dude in the Shield for a minute and had the crowd behind him in the Rumble the year before he won. They just blew their load too fast and completely exposed him.
Yeah, the check engine light was already turning on for Roman's push, it's just Bryan's return was what finally blew the gasket.

The biggest problem is that from the beginning of the Shield split's, WWE's bizarrely half-assed his main event push. Whether they want to admit to it or not, they've been so concerned about the crowd reactions that they've been wishy washy with the shyt. They shove him down everybody's throats and put him over the crowd favorites and others...but not in particularly convincing fashion that gave you the sense that he belonged. They were shoving him down our throats but didn't wanna make it seem that way, so they made him look unimpressive as fukk while telling us he was this dominating conqueror. Cognitive dissonance 'n shyt.

Same shyt happened with Cena when they first moved him to Raw. They were putting him over all of the established veterans but he was barely scraping by with fluky wins that just made him look like a wuss. If you're gonna push the guy, fukking push him.

And like everyone said...shyt finally clicked in December '15. When he whooped HHH's ass and had that crazy bug-eyed expression I was like ":krs: Oh shyt nikkas finally figured it out!" But then they screwed it up with the Royal Rumble shyt. It should've been hyped up as a free-for-all with all of the WWE roster competing for the title but it was instead billed as "Roman vs. Everyone" and ":damn:CAN ROMAN OVERCOME THE ODDS?!" Don't nobody wanna see that shyt. Nobody buys him as an underdog. Compare that to the build of the '98 Rumble, where Austin was a marked man so he just started running around and handing out fades to everybody.
 
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Not that you can compare the guys or the eras but the fact that The Rock in LESS than two years went from DIE ROCKY DIE to one of the most over wrestlers ever while Reigns in year 3 of his push is getting xpac heat more than ever is just :mjlol: :mjlol: :mjcry:

They're trying way too hard recreate lightning in a bottle. But they're missing one key ingredient: a heel turn. All the biggest stars had a heel turn at one point. Rock , Cena, Orton, Austin, HBK, HHH, Bret, etc. If they want him to be that guy, it has to happen. The fact it hasn't happen in 3 years is a travesty. I don't think the Shield were ever truly heels. They came across as tweeners similar to DX post HBK's retirement in the late 90's.

I'm #ReignsGang, but it's over for breh if he doesn't get a heel turn in 2017 :francis:
Can't force lightning into a bottle. He hasn't got a single classic promo or match or moment I can recall. Giving him the second coming of the cena push is getting beyond x PAC heat and has veered into Jeff Jarrett heat at this point.
Royal Rumble 2015 is when people said "fukk this guy."

They wanted Bryan to get his "win" back (even though he won and was out due to injury.) Pushing Bryan out of the title and demoting him to IC while pushing Roman was never going to work in this climate. They should have never gave in and did the Bryan finish at WM30. Heel Batista should have won that night and they could have gave it to Bryan when the movie came out. Giving in to the fans turned them all into babies who can't enjoy a show without directing it.
Your @Messiah style trolling has gotten really lazy. Yeah let's not push the most over guy in the sport and have Randy vs Batista headline a wrestlemania with no other matches the fans want to pay money to see. Try harder next time.
 

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Only thing I don't like about Roman is his moveset. A punch, a spear, and little random strikes, and that sit out powerbomb. shyt is like create-a-wrestler level. They could find a better set for him.
 
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