Yeah, Kobe leads Bron in that department too
And Shaq didnt win a title before Kobe. But D Wade won before Bron
KYLE KUZMA: “KOBE IS THE GREATEST EVER, NO QUESTION”
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Yeah, Kobe leads Bron in that department too
And Shaq didnt win a title before Kobe. But D Wade won before Bron
Dirk beat Bron with a #2 who averaged less points on a worse shooting percentage.
Jason Terry averaged 18ppg on 48/44/84 splits in that 2011 run
Mo Williams averaged 15ppg on 40/35/79 splits in '09/'10.
If Jason Terry played like Mo Williams then there is zero chance the Mavs win the title that year. Mo could make wide-open shots during the regular season, but at 6'1" with limited athleticism he couldn't get good shots and was inefficient as hell during the playoffs, especially in big series. Not to mention that Terry played hard defense within the Mavs zone while Mo just stayed getting burned by everyone.
The irony of you using "retarded" after making that post.
2010 Cavs started J.J. Hickson, 34yo Anthony Parker, and 37yo washed Shaq for most of the season until Jamison came in at the end of the year only to play with both hands around his own neck for the entire postseason.
2010 Lakers had Pau, Odom, Artest, Bynum, and Fisher, and of those the only one over 30yo was Fisher.
For the 4th time, let me point out that Kobe's help OUTPLAYED the opponent straight up. Pau was better than the best player on the other team. LeBron NEVER got that from those shytty-ass Cleveland squads. You have to have a mental illness if you're ever going to argue that Pau-Odom-Artest-Bynum-Fisher is a worse supporting cast than the scrubs and corpses that Bron had next to him.
Mo Williams averaged 17 and 6 (with 3 turnovers a game btw) as a PG on a 26 win team. Dude's teams were under .500 every season before he teamed with Bron. It's a different level of delusion to think Mo Williams is even close to the caliber of player that Pau was. Pau averaged 18 PPG while being one of the best passing bigs and one of the best big defenders in the league.
Dirk beat Bron with a #2 who averaged less points on a worse shooting percentage.
Terry in the 2011 playoffs- 17.5 PPG on 60 TS%
Mo Williams in the 2009 playoffs- 16.3 PPG on 52 TS%
That Mavs team was balanced as hell-- they had 6 players scoring in double figures and an elite defense. They swept Kobe and the defending champion Lakers and beat the young Thunder that season too. That Mavs team had Kidd, Terry, Marion, Chandler, Peja, Barea, Haywood, Stevenson.. Not the best supporting cast but certainly better than the 2009 Cavs that had Williams, West, Varajaeo, Illgauskas, Boobie, Hickson, Joe Smith, Szcerbiak, Pavlovic.
Bron averaged 40 in the ECF, dude was being polite
Jason Terry averaged 15.8 on 45 % and wasn't no all star.Jason Terry averaged 18ppg on 48/44/84 splits in that 2011 run
Mo Williams averaged 15ppg on 40/35/79 splits in '09/'10.
If Jason Terry played like Mo Williams then there is zero chance the Mavs win the title that year. Mo could make wide-open shots during the regular season, but at 6'1" with limited athleticism he couldn't get good shots and was inefficient as hell during the playoffs, especially in big series. Not to mention that Terry played hard defense within the Mavs zone while Mo just stayed getting burned by everyone.
The irony of you using "retarded" after making that post.
2010 Cavs started J.J. Hickson, 34yo Anthony Parker, and 37yo washed Shaq for most of the season until Jamison came in at the end of the year only to play with both hands around his own neck for the entire postseason.
2010 Lakers had Pau, Odom, Artest, Bynum, and Fisher, and of those the only one over 30yo was Fisher.
For the 4th time, let me point out that Kobe's help OUTPLAYED the opponent straight up. Pau was better than the best player on the other team. LeBron NEVER got that from those shytty-ass Cleveland squads. You have to have a mental illness if you're ever going to argue that Pau-Odom-Artest-Bynum-Fisher is a worse supporting cast than the scrubs and corpses that Bron had next to him.
Mo averaged 17.8 on 46%.
How he played in the playoffs is irrelevant. nikkas was hyping him in real time.
If you had posted that before I gave the playoff numbers then I'd think you were just ignorant, now I know you're dishonest too. Mavs won a title cause Jason Terry balled out in the PLAYOFFS. Cavs couldn't advance cause Mo Williams can't do shyt in the PLAYOFFS. What the fukk do you think regular season numbers have to do with that?
And outside of those two seasons Mo averaged 5.9ppg on 40.9% for his playoff career. He NEVER started in a single playoff game outside of '09/10. Breh just wasn't built for that.
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There’s at least 6 nikkas in that pic that Kuz is better than
But Kobe would’ve shipped him out like LeHelp
If you look at my original post, you'd see I said people were hyping mo in "real time" . Playoff numbers are irrelevant to what I said and it's revisionist shyt. Nobody was hyping Jason Terry or even considering the mavs being champions before it happened.
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1.MJ
2.Kobe
2.Kobe
Bron lost to the Warriors cause his teammates couldn't be trusted to make a free throw or even shoot a point-blank layup.
Kobe's only 50-point playoff game was in a 1st-round loss to 10x worse defense, so you probably shouldn't have brought that one up, eh?
And you ignored Bron's 28 playoff games with 40+ points, including 8 in the Finals and 8 in the Conference Finals. Kobe only had 13 playoff games with 40+, only 1 in the Finals and 4 in the Conference Finals.
How stupid do you have to be to think that? During their careers the East had BETTER defenses than the West.
Kobe never did it when facing the fukking Suns/Jazz/Nuggets on the regular, but you think he would have done it against the Pistons/Celtics/Bulls/Pacers???
Kobe against West: 25.4ppg on 45.2%
Kobe against East: 24.2ppg on 43.9%
Massive fail
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This is what I mean when I say that y'all ONLY care about narratives.
"Playoff numbers are irreverent! Terry torching the Lakers for 20ppg on 60% shooting is irrelevant! What matters is who got hyped!"
Terry had proven himself in playoff runs before. 18ppg on 51/49/88 in the '05 postseason. 22ppg on 48/32/73 in the '06 Finals. Then 18ppg on 48/44/84 in the '11 postseason. Everyone already knew he was a baller.
Mo never did jack shyt in the playoffs either before Bron or after. His entire career he's sucked ass in the playoffs cause he's too short and unathletic to do anything on either end once playoff intensity starts. The ONLY reason Mo was ever hyped was because he was on Bron's team and everything around Bron gets more attention. If you have literally no argument other than "but the narratives!!!", then why even watch NBA basketball? Just go back to the Professional Wrestling forum where the narratives you love are all that actually matters.
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ABlackMan
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luke walton so scary in the forces
I do hope Kuz shows out. Lakers have gotten rid of a lot of young talent but when you're on Bron's timeline you don't have time to develop players. What are the Lakers going to do once he retires?