ALonelyDad
Veteran
LeBron and him were having lunch today, people can have opinions. Not everything is shade.
KYLE KUZMA: “KOBE IS THE GREATEST EVER, NO QUESTION”
- Thread starter Sccit
- Start date
Pau gasol made an allstar game before he played with kobe.
pau gasol made the playoffs several times as the best player on his team before getting traded to the lakers and wasnt very successful....but hey AD has a similar story. ad is way better though.
kuzma was an old ass nba rookie with an already matured game....and even then he was mediocre.
putting up 19 ppg on one of the fastest paced teams in the league that also happened to be a bad team isnt impressive.
it is fukking laughable cause you disregard pacing and nature of shot selection back in 04-09. Kyle kuzma would have been relegated to being a role player next to kobe bryant.
kyle kuzma is not a great player. he is very flawed.
where do you think kyle would even get the shot attempts to even get 20 ppg
pau next to kobe put up 13-14 shots a game while being very efficient... and he himself didnt get to 20 ppg...and he was the #2
yal just be saying thing with agendas and makes absolutely zero basketball sense from the eye test or stats
PAU MADE 1 ALL-STAR GAME AND WON ZERO PLAYOFF GAMES PRE-KOBE
AT BEST, HE IS A THIRD OPTION ON A BRON CHAMPIONSHIP SQUAD
IM NOT A FAN OF KUZ, BUT HE’S BETTER THAN WHAT HE SHOWED WIT BRON
Ozymandeas
Veteran
Kevin Love and Pau's careers with Minnesota/Memphis weren't all too different. Now one is considered an all timer
That’s because Kobe treated him like a person and valued him whereas Love was just an interchangeable piece for the latest super team. I doubt they even talk anymore
Pau going down in history as a Laker legend and will probably get his jersey retired too.He’s probably butt hurt but man the Lakers failed Kobe. Bruh had no team from 2005 to most of 2008That’s like Prime Miami Heat era LeBron just wasting away on a garbage team.
Pre-prime Bron won damn near 70 games with these cats and had a better record against the western conference than he did the eastern conference before ya'll start juelzing about conferences. Replace Varaejo and Mo Williams with players like Pau and Odom and the Cavs are winning championships in 2009 and 2010 btw.
In real time nikkas was hyping mo williams to the moon when he made that all star.
Pre-prime Bron won damn near 70 games with these cats and had a better record against the western conference than he did the eastern conference before ya'll start juelzing about conferences. Replace Varaejo and Mo Williams with players like Pau and Odom and the Cavs are winning championships in 2009 and 2010 btw.
Even Bron said he should've made the finals.
Pre-prime Bron won damn near 70 games with these cats and had a better record against the western conference than he did the eastern conference before ya'll start juelzing about conferences. Replace Varaejo and Mo Williams with players like Pau and Odom and the Cavs are winning championships in 2009 and 2010 btw.
ROFL @ LEBRON WINNING A RING WIT PAU AS A SECOND OPTION
WE DONT FORGET WHO U ARE, FAGOT
VVVV
Oh so Shaq never yelled at Jerry Buss during a game asking for his money right? It was all kobe who chased him off
WTF do you base that on? Name a single teammate comp from Kobe's entire career who gives you confidence that Kyle fukking Kuzma would have managed 20ppg alongside him. A Lakers team with Kobe as the star and Kuzma scoring 20+ would be a horrible team.
Kevin Love and Pau's careers with Minnesota/Memphis weren't all too different. Now one is considered an all timer
In just his 3rd season, Pau took the Grizzlies to the playoffs with James fukking Posey as his #2 option. Year after that he made the playoffs as a 6-seed with Mike Miller as the #2 (same year Kobe, Odom, and Caron Butler missed the playoffs completely). Then the next year he made the playoffs as a 5-seed with Miller still his #2 (finishing ahead of the Kobe-Odom Lakers yet again), only to be unlucky enough to get the Mavs draw the year they nearly won the title.
Love, on the other hand, averaged 25 wins/year in his 6 straight losing seasons with Minny, never once making the playoffs.
PAU MADE 1 ALL-STAR GAME AND WON ZERO PLAYOFF GAMES PRE-KOBE
AT BEST, HE IS A THIRD OPTION ON A BRON CHAMPIONSHIP SQUAD
As opposed to Kyrie and Love, who never even MADE the playoffs pre-Bron.
Pau was the #1 on a playoff team for 3 straight years before he came to L.A. and then outplayed the other team's #1 in the Finals in back-to-back years (Dwight in '09 and KG in '10). Your constant need to shyt on him is a serious psychological issue.
I have trouble understanding how you claim to be a Lakers fan yet shyt on every star the Lakers have had in your adult life who wasn't named Kobe.
Pau gasol made an allstar game before he played with kobe.
pau gasol made the playoffs several times as the best player on his team before getting traded to the lakers and wasnt very successful....but hey AD has a similar story. ad is way better though.
kuzma was an old ass nba rookie with an already matured game....and even then he was mediocre.
putting up 19 ppg on one of the fastest paced teams in the league that also happened to be a bad team isnt impressive.
it is fukking laughable cause you disregard pacing and nature of shot selection back in 04-09. Kyle kuzma would have been relegated to being a role player next to kobe bryant.
kyle kuzma is not a great player. he is very flawed.
where do you think kyle would even get the shot attempts to even get 20 ppg
pau next to kobe put up 13-14 shots a game while being very efficient... and he himself didnt get to 20 ppg...and he was the #2
yal just be saying thing with agendas and makes absolutely zero basketball sense from the eye test or stats
AD won a playoff series before Bron. Pau never won a playoff game in 12 tries before Kobe and he had good enough teammates to at least win one game. Try again bytch boy
WTF do you base that on? Name a single teammate comp from Kobe's entire career who gives you confidence that Kyle fukking Kuzma would have managed 20ppg alongside him. A Lakers team with Kobe as the star and Kuzma scoring 20+ would be a horrible team.
In just his 3rd season, Pau took the Grizzlies to the playoffs with James fukking Posey as his #2 option. Year after that he made the playoffs as a 6-seed with Mike Miller as the #2 (same year Kobe, Odom, and Caron Butler missed the playoffs completely). Then the next year he made the playoffs as a 5-seed with Miller still his #2 (finishing ahead of the Kobe-Odom Lakers yet again), only to be unlucky enough to get the Mavs draw the year they nearly won the title.
Love, on the other hand, averaged 25 wins/year in his 6 straight losing seasons with Minny, never once making the playoffs.
As opposed to Kyrie and Love, who never even MADE the playoffs pre-Bron.
Pau was the #1 on a playoff team for 3 straight years before he came to L.A. and then outplayed the other team's #1 in the Finals in back-to-back years (Dwight in '09 and KG in '10). Your constant need to shyt on him is a serious psychological issue.
I have trouble understanding how you claim to be a Lakers fan yet shyt on every star the Lakers have had in your adult life who wasn't named Kobe.
justify going 0-12 in the playoffs brehs
and the bolded isn't true..,..in PAu's last full season with MEM they went 22-60 and missed the playoffs. And they were 13-32 when they traded Pau to us. And he had 2nd year Rudy Gay dropping 20 ppg and Mike Miller dropping 16 while he himself was only dropping 18ppg. You're a sad dude
WTF do you base that on? Name a single teammate comp from Kobe's entire career who gives you confidence that Kyle fukking Kuzma would have managed 20ppg alongside him. A Lakers team with Kobe as the star and Kuzma scoring 20+ would be a horrible team.
In just his 3rd season, Pau took the Grizzlies to the playoffs with James fukking Posey as his #2 option. Year after that he made the playoffs as a 6-seed with Mike Miller as the #2 (same year Kobe, Odom, and Caron Butler missed the playoffs completely). Then the next year he made the playoffs as a 5-seed with Miller still his #2 (finishing ahead of the Kobe-Odom Lakers yet again), only to be unlucky enough to get the Mavs draw the year they nearly won the title.
Love, on the other hand, averaged 25 wins/year in his 6 straight losing seasons with Minny, never once making the playoffs.
As opposed to Kyrie and Love, who never even MADE the playoffs pre-Bron.
Pau was the #1 on a playoff team for 3 straight years before he came to L.A. and then outplayed the other team's #1 in the Finals in back-to-back years (Dwight in '09 and KG in '10). Your constant need to shyt on him is a serious psychological issue.
I have trouble understanding how you claim to be a Lakers fan yet shyt on every star the Lakers have had in your adult life who wasn't named Kobe.
I DONT GET IT .. ARE U TRYNA ARGUE THAT PAU > KYRIE?
IF NOT THEN U JUST DID A WHOLE LOTA TYPIN FOR NOTHIN
KOBE HAD SMUSH PARKER AVERAGING 12 PPG AND LOOKIN LIKE A LEGIT STARTING PG .. KUZMA ONCE SCORED 41 POINTS IN A GAME. PAU’S CAREER HIGH SPANNING 18 YEARS WAS 46 POINTS
justify going 0-12 in the playoffs brehs
and the bolded isn't true..,..in PAu's last full season with MEM they went 22-60 and missed the playoffs. And they were 13-32 when they traded Pau to us. And he had 2nd year Rudy Gay dropping 20 ppg and Mike Miller dropping 16 while he himself was only dropping 18ppg. You're a sad dude
EXACTLY
AND JAMES POSEY WAS A 5TH OPTION, NOT SECOND OPTION
lmao he need to stop dikkeating. kobe would have had his ass shipped out just like lebron did
If you're a 3rd/4th year player and have James Posey or Mike Miller as your #2, then making the playoffs is a major accomplishment.
Unfortunately they got bad draws. In 2004 Pau in his 3rd year had to face Duncan and the defending champ Spurs. In 2005 they were up against the #1 Suns with Nash/Amare/Marion/Joe Johnson/Q, a far better version of the team that Kobe/Odom couldn't beat. Then in 2006 they went against Dirk's team that almost won the title against Miami that year.
Pau with that shytty help wasn't going to be favored in a single game against those elite teams. That doesn't make him a scrub. Kobe in his 3rd/4th/5th seasons wasn't gonna be winning any playoff games either if he had to face that kinda competition with that little help.
Wrong. In Pau's last full season with Memphis they went 49-33 and got the 5th seed.
The season you're talking about wasn't a full season at all. Pau missed the first 23 games with a broken foot and Memphis started 5-18 as a result. When he came back they were easing him in with limited minutes and Memphis's starting lineup was Mike Miller, Hakim Warrick, Dahntay Jones, and a completely washed Damon Stoudamire. By the time Pau played 30 minutes for the first time all season, Memphis was already 6-25 and clearly had no option except to tank for the rest of the year. Pau was disgruntled with that and the next season started off poorly with them saying that his spirit wasn't in the game, that's when they started looking to trade him somewhere else for a new start.
Pau outplayed Dwight in the 2009 Finals and then outplayed KG in the 2010 Finals. The fact that y'all continue to shyt on him is lowly as fukk.