Kyrie Irving gets into it with NBA reporter Nick Friedell

[2Quik4UHoes]

You are far too smart to be in this convo. Your focus is the pseudo science that Kyrie has parttake in and how it undermines the real work.

I get that but I see the big picture. Cacs undermine all of this shyt. The real and the fake and their attack on Kyrie isn't Ye where its just them people and regular white folk. The white supremacists who are the kings of pseudo science, the cacs, the regular white folk and them peoples not to mention other races who love to take shots at Blacks in general. You gotta see that's where the fight is and regardless if I agree with where Kyrie is in his learning, he's learning and that's most important.

You are like me, we been doing this since 2004. Worked at libraries. We have a lot of data. We at one time didn't and it wasn't the easiest at one time to see the difference between pseudo science and real science.

We can all agree that white neuroticism has a detrimental effect across the board for all people including white people themselves.

I can even agree that they’ll attack Kyrie with a bit more enthusiasm than they might do to another white person. But it doesn’t mean that Kyrie is doing anything constructive. Like, Ye Stans were running around saying “See? He exposed how Jews move they proving his point” but not only was this info already available no real retort was offered other than “Black people are the real Jews”.

I think where we part ways is when anything is acceptable if it attacks cacs. Using Brother Malcolm again as an example, he was fearsome because you couldn’t play this kinda game with him without getting intellectually ethered. Kyrie is doing more favors than not when it comes to this because with no command of the subject or language he’s made to look like a fool rather than a dangerous mind that can actually challenge conventional thought.

I’ve always felt that this was a clever way of the establishment to delegitimize genuine dissidents and opinions which challenge the status quo. It’s why Dr. Umar or Tariq can be so large rather than the actual scholars whose whole lives are dedicated to that work. So when someone legit brings up real discrepancies along with solutions they can be dismissed under the same umbrella as Kyrie and Kanye.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

nikkas are beyond stupid. It's insane. nikka, you ain't gonna learn nothing going to a freemason event if a. You aren't a member. You have no rank nikka, you one of the nikkas they have outside while they doing what they do inside till they say it's time for you to come in

Ya'll really not equipped to be talking on this and to be frank, I gotta be careful of what I say around Ya'll

Lol my grandfather was high ranking and I have friends in it now

Perhaps it's you who doesnt know what the fukk they're talking about

You should be careful with what you say cuz stupidity is contagious

 

[#1 pick]

Lol my grandfather was high ranking and I have friends in it now

Perhaps it's you who doesnt know what the fukk they're talking about

You should be careful with what you say cuz stupidity is contagious

Are you in it tho? That's the person who would know the most, you if you are speaking for yourself. You grandfather is not going to tell you shyt and your friends will be limited in their response. Only person who you can speak for is yourself on this. So when you say, I was invited to an event and this did happened or didn't happen, it comes off as naive and clueless when you openly admitted, you aren't in. You can't speak on being BD if you aren't in it.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Are you in it tho? That's the person who would know the most, you if you are speaking for yourself. You grandfather is not going to tell you shyt and your friends will be limited in their response. Only person who you can speak for is yourself on this. So when you say, I was invited to an event and this did happened or didn't happen, it comes off as naive and clueless when you openly admitted, you aren't in. You can't speak on being BD if you aren't in it.

I'm well traveled

 

[Everythingg]

My thing is, we’ve got real live information out here that can be used without loud mouths behind a microphone telling us what’s what. People like Carter G. Woodson or Amos Wilson could give you far more compelling answers with regards to the plight of Black folks today and they’ve long since passed.

To me, the issue is that actually doing your own research and having it challenged in genuine intellectual discussion is a lot more difficult/mystifying than the shyt we got going right now. It’s a lot like working out. Sure, everybody wants a beach body but it’s a tiny percentage that are actually willing to do the work.

A lot of us would be well served by truly learning from Brother Malcolm’s life. He’s the best example that Black people have of a man that is able to grow and have intellectual honesty. He bought into NOI doctrine hook, line, and sinker because much of what was being said could actually be corroborated by the savage behaviors of white people. But in the end, he realized the Yakub story was bullshyt, and the man/org. he held in such high regard that he was able to shun his own younger brother after being excommunicated only to have his older brother then betray him, was nothing more than a group of snake oil salesman taking advantage of Black people looking for answers to their problems.

It was by sheer luck that the NOI stumbled upon Malcolm and even Farrakhan to an extent. Many of today’s new Black religious movements like the Hebrew Israelites don’t have that same luxury. Not to mention, for all of the NOI’s faults they still had a somewhat African centered position whereas the Hebrews aren’t as such.

I say all this to say that all opinions aren’t equal especially if they aren’t from a place of real research. I’m African/Black first, I don’t need nor care for using the Jewish story because our story is far more valuable. We were here before the Torah existed so why does my liberation story have to involve Jewish people? Wasn’t no maroons praying to Adonay or Elohim but this supposed to be what frees us?

But the NOI has said the same about blacks being Hebrews. Malcolm gave a speech saying the same. So what exactly are you saying? If you see yourself as “African/black” then do that. But you shouldn’t take others to task on how they see themselves based on the available information. Because just as there were black Africans, there were black Asians, Americans and Europeans. Black people were everywhere and not just in Africa and people now are choosing to identify themselves based on the available information instead of just throwing the blanket term of African on them.

You sound like a gatekeeper trying to keep nikkas in the status quo when the status quo is and has always been wrong. And at the end of the day your ancestors before cacs weren’t identifying themselves as “African” or “black” so what are you really doing other than following the blueprint given to you by those that rule over you? Its a new day and a lot of us are self identifying based on the available information and not just based on what the mainstream declares credible or not. Nobody is saying you have to see yourself as anything else, but if the next man does? That’s his prerogative. And running to the mainstream for answers isn’t how you go about proving that wrong…

 

[#1 pick]

I'm well traveled

Are you well credentialed is more important here. Talking about being well traveled, Kyrie is more well traveled than either of us and I am far more credentialed than Kyrie.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

But the NOI has said the same about blacks being Hebrews. Malcolm gave a speech saying the same. So what exactly are you saying? If you see yourself as “African/black” then do that. But you shouldn’t take others to task on how they see themselves based on the available information. Because just as there were black Africans, there were black Asians, Americans and Europeans. Black people were everywhere and not just in Africa and people now are choosing to identify themselves based on the available information instead of just throwing the blanket term of African on them.

You sound like a gatekeeper trying to keep nikkas in the status quo when the status quo is and has always been wrong. And at the end of the day your ancestors before cacs weren’t identifying themselves as “African” or “black” so what are you really doing other than following the blueprint given to you by those that rule over you? Its a new day and a lot of us are self identifying based on the available information and not just based on what the mainstream declares credible or not. Nobody is saying you have to see yourself as anything else, but if the next man does? That’s his prerogative. And running to the mainstream for answers isn’t how you go about proving that wrong…

I think you’re missing the point. My point in saying I’m African/Black first is because we precede all of those designations you’re bringing up like Jew or Muslim or American or whatever. Sure, those are things we can say are a part of the Black experience but they aren’t the whole of it.

Also, what gate am I keeping here? I’m telling you there’s a wealth of knowledge written by our ancestors that can give you real answers. No one is stopping you from obtaining that knowledge. Knowledge that has nothing to do with white peoples standards or status quo. You and I just see thing differently thats why I’m not going all apeshyt over things but I do admit that it’s funny to me. We’re so much more than Jews breh. Our furthest ancestors came up with the very idea of religion itself so wtf is Judaism to me?….

 

[No1]

It’s kinda crazy how many ancestors have transitioned while leaving bodies of work and knowledge for us to build on and this is the result.

It’s crazy man. It’s like they don’t like our real history so they latch on to other stuff.

 

[Voice of Reason]

But the NOI has said the same about blacks being Hebrews. Malcolm gave a speech saying the same. So what exactly are you saying? If you see yourself as “African/black” then do that. But you shouldn’t take others to task on how they see themselves based on the available information. Because just as there were black Africans, there were black Asians, Americans and Europeans. Black people were everywhere and not just in Africa and people now are choosing to identify themselves based on the available information instead of just throwing the blanket term of African on them.

You sound like a gatekeeper trying to keep nikkas in the status quo when the status quo is and has always been wrong. And at the end of the day your ancestors before cacs weren’t identifying themselves as “African” or “black” so what are you really doing other than following the blueprint given to you by those that rule over you? Its a new day and a lot of us are self identifying based on the available information and not just based on what the mainstream declares credible or not. Nobody is saying you have to see yourself as anything else, but if the next man does? That’s his prerogative. And running to the mainstream for answers isn’t how you go about proving that wrong…

He is an immigrant from Africa so his perspective might be different than a Black American.

 

[010101]

too much information without the discernment to know what is worth standing on little.mountain mind.fukking himself ha*

 

[Everythingg]

I think you’re missing the point. My point in saying I’m African/Black first is because we precede all of those designations you’re bringing up like Jew or Muslim or American or whatever. Sure, those are things we can say are a part of the Black experience but they aren’t the whole of it.

Also, what gate am I keeping here? I’m telling you there’s a wealth of knowledge written by our ancestors that can give you real answers. No one is stopping you from obtaining that knowledge. Knowledge that has nothing to do with white peoples standards or status quo. You and I just see thing differently thats why I’m not going all apeshyt over things but I do admit that it’s funny to me. We’re so much more than Jews breh. Our furthest ancestors came up with the very idea of religion itself so wtf is Judaism to me?….

But “African/black” are terms given to you by cacs. So with all that wealth of information you say you see concerning your ancestors, why aren’t you referring to yourself as they did? That’s one. Two I call it gatekeeper because what cacs did is pile all the black people up and push them as “African” when again we were EVERYWHERE. But now despite being everywhere they all get pushed into Africa while the white man gets to be the European/Hispanic/American and the Asian man gets to be Asian. It’s cap. It’s done this way so they can lay claim to those lands DESPITE blacks being their FIRST.

And again if you reach deep down in your bag, and come up with African/black? Then that’s cool. That’s you. Others reach in their bags and see Native American. Others reach in their bag and see Moor/European. Others Israelite. The days where we’re only see ourselves as black/African are done and they should be. We were everywhere.

(And by “we” I mean people that would be designated as “black”. I don’t mean the same group are all these people at the same time)

 

[Marc Spector]

Kendrick Lamar won a Pulitzer prize for his album Damn that is pretty much stating the same theme of that book that “Black people are the true people of Israel” and have Jewish heritage but no one had any smoke for him for saying that


Just because nikkas hate Kyrie and the Kanye shyt is going on they running with this bullshyt

That album is not about that. It's about the idea that the black experience could be interpreted as a blood curse, so how do you reconcile your fate and experience if it's predetermined by your blood AKA if you're damned, does anything matter?

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Are you well credentialed is more important here. Talking about being well traveled, Kyrie is more well traveled than either of us and I am far more credentialed than Kyrie.

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[2Quik4UHoes]

He is an immigrant from Africa so his perspective might be different than a Black American.

I’m actually not an immigrant I was born and raised in the U.S. so no, if anything, being an American is what gave me this perspective.

 

[Everythingg]

He is an immigrant from Africa so his perspective might be different than a Black American.

That’s thing every black man should be able to have their own perspective considering we were everywhere. Yet every time someone black sees themselves as something beyond black/African the gatekeeping starts. Despite being the first man on the earth that even until today can be found everywhere, our perspective of who we are always gets limited to being only black or African. And it’s all so these other groups can claim the other lands as theirs..