Kyrie Irving gets into it with NBA reporter Nick Friedell

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But “African/black” are terms given to you by cacs. So with all that wealth of information you say you see concerning your ancestors, why aren’t you referring to yourself as they did? That’s one. Two I call it gatekeeper because what cacs did is pile all the black people up and push them as “African” when again we were EVERYWHERE. But now despite being everywhere they all get pushed into Africa while the white man gets to be the European/Hispanic/American and the Asian man gets to be Asian. It’s cap. It’s done this way so they can lay claim to those lands DESPITE blacks being their FIRST.

And again if you reach deep down in your bag, and come up with African/black? Then that’s cool. That’s you. Others reach in their bags and see Native American. Others reach in their bag and see Moor/European. Others Israelite. The days where we’re only see ourselves as black/African are done and they should be. We were everywhere.

(And by “we” I mean people that would be designated as “black”. I don’t mean the same group are all these people at the same time)

Lol, let’s just agree to disagree. If this is what works for you that’s fine. But we’re wasting each other’s time in doing this.

Also, we have no idea what the ancestors called themselves. What I do know is that humankind began in Africa and so this whole human experience stands on the shoulders of us. As such, those first humans created the concepts which would later be so important today. So why would I even concern myself with a later designation if it isn’t the source according to me? That’s really the crux of our argument here. For you, taking on any ol name which comes with allegories that fit your own struggle is perfectly fine and for me owning our actual story is more important. Different people are in different places in life so what fits is what fits.
 

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What is the use of this so called 'truth' if you clearly combine it with dangerous lies for profit??

That dude is the definition of a filthy ass scumbag
All of them do that - every single "leader", every organization, every type of government. Nothing changes but the scale it's on
 

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I’m actually not an immigrant I was born and raised in the U.S. so no, if anything, being an American is what gave me this perspective.

I’m not trying to offend.My apologies. I’m just saying that you have direct ties Africa.

You’re a pretty good poster. But I think we should give all ethnicities room to define themselves. Everyone will not agree with an Afrocentric view.
 
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He might be joining Russ on a permanent hiatus from pro hoops soon. The Nets owner is clearly licking his chops at the prospect of not paying him if his contract can be invalidated. And of all the cities to make the Jewish population skeptical of you… the pressure ain’t going away. Add to all that the Nets are a total failure as a high profile team with a bloated payroll. Yikes.
I actually wish he would attempt to invalidate his contract so he can get sued into oblivion. The outrage is far exceeds what kyrie actually did.
 

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While I got your point as this shyt Kyrie is quoting is bullshyt, my reaction is to the cacs.
And that’s where you took issue with me for no reason. Of course white people put extra sauce on it when it’s someone black. What I’ve said from day 1 is his inability to operate at a high level of debate makes it easier to dismiss. He’s not of the ilk of guys like Ali when they sat on that seat. He resents being challenged because he’s not in command of what he’s talking about. He sounds like me at 14. He’s not representing the best of us, just the most famous. And it seems like people want someone to popularize shyt so much they’re latching on to anyone. All Kanye and Kyrie have done is make us have PSAs against anti-semitism. Even Jay Z did a better job of this on 4:44 and he’s as capitalist as they come. They have created a new wave when if you question anything people will automatically start an anti-semitism inquiry. It’s a waste. How are you saying that you’re using your platform to speak to people but when questioned you’re hiding your hands or you can’t explain anything? Kyrie has made some good charitable overtures so I always went easy on him but now I’m just disappointed.

The other thing is @2Quik4UHoes and I refuse to infantilize Kyrie or JB for that matter. They have more money and resources than we ever had. Kyrie is 2 years younger than me. He’s had way more free time to explore than I I have had as a lawyer. He can ask anyone he wants and study from whomever. He is choosing short cuts and pseudo science because it appeals to him and the other work is harder. Like I said, if he was 15 year old me, I’d have your stance but he’s 30.
 

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Lol, let’s just agree to disagree. If this is what works for you that’s fine. But we’re wasting each other’s time in doing this.

Also, we have no idea what the ancestors called themselves. What I do know is that humankind began in Africa and so this whole human experience stands on the shoulders of us. As such, those first humans created the concepts which would later be so important today. So why would I even concern myself with a later designation if it isn’t the source according to me? That’s really the crux of our argument here. For you, taking on any ol name which comes with allegories that fit your own struggle is perfectly fine and for me owning our actual story is more important. Different people are in different places in life so what fits is what fits.


To be able to “own the actually story”, you’d have to KNOW the actual story. And you don’t. If YOUR perspective for YOU is only Africa then that’s cool. YOU run with that. But the evidence shows blacks people being in all lands not just Africa. And they should be recognized within all the lands they were AND ARE found and not just relegated back to Africa so people that came to these lands AFTER them can lay claim to the lands.

That perspective doesn’t empower us. It limits us. It limits our contributions to Africa and Africa alone when our reach was once worldwide. That’s gatekeeping breh and it’s exactly what those that give us the conventional history we’re given do. Cacs limit our existence to Africa and if found anywhere else we’re limited to being “slaves” or the help. When in all actuality black people were first in EVERY land and should be recognized as such. If you’re not pitching that then you’re either gatekeeping or don’t know the actual story.

Some people claiming Hebrews, others moors, others Native American are just brehs claiming the conventional titles of where black people actually were before cacs came . Staking claim in these different places isn’t running from our story. It’s reclaiming what was taken from us. If anyone has a problem with that,no matter what the race, they’re the problem. Because our reach was worldwide not just limited to Africa alone.
 

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y’all in here suckin cac reporter dikk smh shameful
Because a repoter sucks, it means one has to ride for a buffoon in Kyrie?

He doesnt know if hes coming or going. If one is going to step out and speak on things, he should sound prepared for what comes with it. Hes simply not qualified or speaks with the consistency or certainty of an well read person. He sounds as if hes stumbled across or someone passed him some info without he himself taking a deep dive into it.

So unimpressive
 

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Because a repoter sucks, it means one has to ride for a buffoon in Kyrie?

He doesnt know if hes coming or going. If one is going to step out and speak on things, he should sound prepared for what comes with it. Hes simply not qualified or speaks with the consistency or certainty of an well read person. He sounds as if hes stumbled across or someone passed him some info without he himself taking a deep dive into it.

So unimpressive
he answered how he deemed fit if u dont like it then :yeshrug:
 

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he answered how he deemed fit if u dont like it then :yeshrug:
It’s not about likability. It’s about making sense. You claim I have influence then say you don’t. He’s not articulate. It’s lofty word salad from him. Gauging my like for it is a waste of time. Gauge his comments and they lack consistency.
 
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