KYRIE IRVING NAMES HIS ALL-TIME NBA TEAM

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ILL TAKE THE WORD OF THE COACHES WHO DEVISE GAMEPLANS AROUND HIS DEFENSIVE SCHEMES OVER A LAKER NUTRIDER ANY DAY.
No you'll take the word of anyone who says something you already agree with.

Kobe's reputation on defense was great. No one disputes that and few people had any desire to question it.
 

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AGAIN, IM SPEAKIN ABOUT PEAKS. WE ALL KNOW MJ NEVER FACED THE SAME CHALLENGES AS KOBE, HE PLAYED WIT PIPPEN FOR THE DURATION OF HIS PRIME, SO NATURALLY, HE WILL HAVE THE BETTER CAREER NUMBERS... BUT PEAK FOR PEAK, KOBE'S 35.4 PPG SEASON IS MORE IMPRESSIVE IN TERMS OF RATIO THAN MJ'S 37 PPG SEASON. IT TOOK MJ OVERTIME TO REACH HIS CAREER HIGH OF 69. HE DOESNT HAVE THE ARSENAL TO SCORE 81 OR 62 IN 3 QUARTERS ALA KOBE.. KOBE HAS AVERAGED 40 FOR AN ENTIRE MONTH AND MJ NEVER HAD AS MANY CONSECUTIVE 50 POINT GAMES AS KOBE. PEAK FOR PEAK, NO ONE CAN SCORE LIKE PRIME KOBE.

:mjlol: So those 9 scoring titles and higher ppg in both the playoffs and regular season mean nothing huh...and not to mention jordan has the highest scoring playoff game in NBA history(63) as a matter of fact out of the top 10 highest scoring games in playoff history 6 of those games come from Jordan you talking about averaging 40 for a month nikka Mj damn near did that shyt for a season:mjlol: ...but nah kobes 1 or 2 monthly average is better than what Michael the goat Jordan did for a career:mjlol: then you say that Mj doesn't have the arsenal to do what Kobe did despite the fact that Kobe got his entire damn arsenal from Mj :mjlol: you have lost your motherfukking mind...Mj literally has about 5 times as many scoring titles than Kobe but you still think kobes a better scorer:mjlol:
 

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AGAIN, IM SPEAKIN ABOUT PEAKS. WE ALL KNOW MJ NEVER FACED THE SAME CHALLENGES AS KOBE, HE PLAYED WIT PIPPEN FOR THE DURATION OF HIS PRIME, SO NATURALLY, HE WILL HAVE THE BETTER CAREER NUMBERS... BUT PEAK FOR PEAK, KOBE'S 35.4 PPG SEASON IS MORE IMPRESSIVE IN TERMS OF RATIO THAN MJ'S 37 PPG SEASON. IT TOOK MJ OVERTIME TO REACH HIS CAREER HIGH OF 69. HE DOESNT HAVE THE ARSENAL TO SCORE 81 OR 62 IN 3 QUARTERS ALA KOBE.. KOBE HAS AVERAGED 40 FOR AN ENTIRE MONTH AND MJ NEVER HAD AS MANY CONSECUTIVE 50 POINT GAMES AS KOBE. PEAK FOR PEAK, NO ONE CAN SCORE LIKE PRIME KOBE.
Peak for peak, Klay Thompson > Kobe by that logic. Kobe never scored 37 in a quarter on 100% shooting so by your logic, he just didn't have the arsenal to do so.
 

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No you'll take the word of anyone who says something you already agree with.

Kobe's reputation on defense was great. No one disputes that and few people had any desire to question it.


A REP WITH COACHES AND PLAYERS DOES NOT = A REP WITH MEDIA
 

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:mjlol: So those 9 scoring titles and higher ppg in both the playoffs and regular season mean nothing huh...and not to mention jordan has the highest scoring playoff game in NBA history(63) as a matter of fact out of the top 10 highest scoring games in playoff history 6 of those games come from Jordan you talking about averaging 40 for a month nikka Mj damn near did that shyt for a season:mjlol: ...but nah kobes 1 or 2 monthly average is better than what Michael the goat Jordan did for a career:mjlol: then you say that Mj doesn't have the arsenal to do what Kobe did despite the fact that Kobe got his entire damn arsenal from Mj :mjlol: you have lost your motherfukking mind...Mj literally has about 5 times as many scoring titles than Kobe but you still think kobes a better scorer:mjlol:


KOBE PUT UP 35+ PPG WHEN TEAMS WAS SCORIN IN THE 90'S .. FACTS

MJ PLAYED IN AN ERA WHERE SCORING NUMBERS WAS INFLATED .. FACTS

MJ NEVER SCORED 70, LET ALONE 80 .. FACTS

KOBE HAS WENT ON UNMATCHED SCORING BURSTS .. FACTS

MJ HAD THE PERFECT SECOND OPTION TO MAXIMIZE HIS SCORING POTENTIAL .. FACTS

IF KOBE PLAYED IN THE 80'S AND HAD PIPPEN FOR THE DURATION OF HIS PRIME, HE'D HAVE AT LEAST 1 40 PPG SEASON AND 100 POINT GAME .. FACTS
 

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Peak for peak, Klay Thompson > Kobe by that logic. Kobe never scored 37 in a quarter on 100% shooting so by your logic, he just didn't have the arsenal to do so.

NOPE .. BECAUSE KLAY PLAYS ON A TEAM WHERE THERES TOO MANY GREAT PLAYERS FOR THE FOCUS TO BE ON HIM. PRIME KOBE ON THESE WARRIORS WOULD FUCC AROUND N PUT UP 120.
 

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KOBE PUT UP 35+ PPG WHEN TEAMS WAS SCORIN IN THE 90'S .. FACTS

MJ PLAYED IN AN ERA WHERE SCORING NUMBERS WAS INFLATED .. FACTS

MJ NEVER SCORED 70, LET ALONE 80 .. FACTS

KOBE HAS WENT ON UNMATCHED SCORING BURSTS .. FACTS

MJ HAD THE PERFECT SECOND OPTION TO MAXIMIZE HIS SCORING POTENTIAL .. FACTS

IF KOBE PLAYED IN THE 80'S AND HAD PIPPEN FOR THE DURATION OF HIS PRIME, HE'D HAVE AT LEAST 1 40 PPG SEASON AND 100 POINT GAME .. FACTS

Lol you literally gave all opinions
 

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Shaq won 3 straight fmvps and was the most dominated player in the league at one point.

I don't want to know. :hubie:



Shameless bron stans using gasols name like he isnt a top 100 player after playing with some of the best players in the weakass eastern conference
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ALL-DEFENSE TEAMS ARE PICKED BY OPPOSING COACHES WHO STRATEGIZED ENTIRE GAME PLANS AGAINST HIS DEFENSE....KILL YASELF.
ILL TAKE THE WORD OF THE COACHES WHO DEVISE GAMEPLANS AROUND HIS DEFENSIVE SCHEMES OVER A LAKER NUTRIDER ANY DAY.
You are literally the ONLY Kobestan I know who claims that opposing coaches were strategizing entire game plans against Kobe's defense. :mjgrin:




LEBRONS DEFENSIVE PLAYS COME ON WEAKSIDE HELP, EVEN THE GREAT DEFENSIVE FINALS PLAYS U TALKIN BOUT LMAO. LEBRON CAN NOT PROPERLY GUARD WINGS, BECAUSE THEY CAN BLOW BY HIM WIT EASE. THATS WHY HIS SIGNATURE MOVE IS A CHASE DOWN BLOCK. HE CANNOT MOVE LATTERLY LIKE KOBE N PLAY THE SAME LEVEL OF MAN D. NOT MOBILE ENOUGH TO LOCK DOWN. THERES A REASON HE WILL NEVER SNIFF THE RECORD SETTING AMOUNT OF ALL-D TEAMS KOBE HAS.
LOL STOP IT .. LEBRON WAS EXTREMELY OVERRATED ON D, U CAN SEE IT WHEN U WATCH HIM PLAY NOW. AT HIS PEAK, HE WAS A GOOD, NEVER GREAT DEFENDER .. KOBE WAS A GREAT DEFENDER. WHEN THEY PLAYED TOGETHER IN 08 ON THE OLYMPIC TEAM, LEBRON WAS ACTUALLY KNOWN AS A POOR DEFENDER, AND KOBE WAS THE ONE WHO WORKED WIT HIM ON HIS D.... TO CASUALS, LEBRON SEEMS LIKE A BETTER DEFENDER BASED ON CHASEDOWN BLOCKS AND WEAKSIDE STEALS DUE TO GAMBLING. BUT TO ANYONE WHO KNOWS THE GAME, ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE.

How did he hold prime Paul Pierce to 12ppg for an entire playoff series via "weakside help"?

How did he shut down Derrick Rose, Rajon Rondo, and Tony Parker for entire quarters based on "weakside help"?

How does he put up the following stats with "weakside help"?



LeBron 2016 Playoffs (21 games)

3.2/10.2 Defensive FGs defended

Overall, held opponents to 31.8% FG (Their average FG% was 45.9%

This is a differential of -14.1% (He held opponents to -14.8% their average FG%), which is by far the best mark... For comparison, Draymond was next best at -8.4%


To break it down even further to perimeter defense and Rim protection..

3PT DEFENSE

LeBron was the Cavs best 3pt defender, and along with Livingtson and context taken into account, the best 3pt defenders

0.9/3.8 Defensive Field Goals Defended

Held opponent 3pt shooters to 24.1% (Their average 3PT% was 36.7%)

This is a differential of -12.6%

Only one guy who played 15+ playoff games (Shawn Livingston) had a slightly better differential (Abet on lower volume)

RIM PROTECTION

1.4/3.3 Defensive Field Goals Defended

Held opponents at the rim to 43.5%

The best rim protection % on the Cavs

For reference Bogut held opponents to 46.6%, and Tristan Thompson 49.2%


Finals Averages...
2.3 Blocks a game
2.6 Steals a game

2016 Playoff Averages
2.3 Steals a game
1.3 Blocks a game

In the last 3 games, LeBron averaged 3 blocks and 3 steals per game


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Here's also some stuff comparing him and DPOY winner Kawhi Leonard in the regular season

The usual field goal percent of the shooter that the player is defending
LeBron - 44.8%
Kawhi - 44.9%

Defense Dashboard

2pt FGs - Players shot 8.2% worse than their average when defended by LeBron
2pt FGs - Players shot 7.3% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi
3pt FGs - Players shots 2.7% worse than their average when defended by LeBron
3pt FGs - Players shot 1.3% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi
Overall - Players shot 7.4% worse than their average when defended by LeBron on 8.4 Defended FGs Per Game
Overall - Players shot 5.7% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi on 9.4 Defended FGs Per Game

Play type

When they were the closest isolation defender
LeBron - 69 possessions, .59 points per possession allowed, 28.8% eFG
Kawhi - 61 possessions, .69 points per possession allowed, 31% eFG

When they were the closest defender to the PnR ball handler
LeBron - 144 possessions, .66 ppp allowed, 37.1 eFG
Kawhi - 243 possessions, .65 ppp allowed, 35.8 eFG

When they were the roll man defender
LeBron - 10 possessions, .7 ppp, 38.9 eFG
Kawhi - 30 possessions, .5 ppp, 27.8 eFG

Post defense
LeBron - 43 possessions, .77 ppp, 40 eFG
Kawhi - 31 possessions, .77 ppp, 41.7 eFG

On spot up shooters
LeBron - 210 possessions, .8 ppp, 41.6 eFG
Kawhi - 200 possessions, .88 ppp, 43.6 eFG

Hand-offs
LeBron - 43 possessions, .49 ppp, 33.9 eFG
Leonard - 58 possessions, .72 ppp, 39.5 eFG

Off screens
LeBron - 78 possessions, .74 ppp, 40.8 eFG
Kawhi - 96 possessions, 1.05 ppp, 51.2 eFG




NOPE.. BECAUSE HE CAME OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL. AT 17, HE WAS ALREADY MORE POLISHED OFFENSIVELY THAN LEBRON IS NOW

Yeah, that guy averaging 7 points and 1 assist on 41.5% shooting looked polished as hell.

Wait, maybe it was the next year, when he averaged 15 points and 2 assists on 42.8% shooting?

Hell, in his 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th seasons, he shot 26.7%, 31.9%, 30.5%, and 25.0% from three.

Only making a quarter of his threes 6 seasons in but he was "polished". :mjlol:

If Kobe was so damn polished at 17, how he fall to #13 in the draft despite a high profile as the son of an NBA player?




IN RETURN. KYRIE SAVED LEBRON BY HITTING ALL THE BIG SHOTS DOWN THE STRETCH VS. THE WARRIORS.

Lebron scored NINE points in the final 6 minutes of the Warriors Game 7.

Kyrie scored THREE points in the final 6 minutes of the Warriors Game 7







AGAIN, IM SPEAKIN ABOUT PEAKS. WE ALL KNOW MJ NEVER FACED THE SAME CHALLENGES AS KOBE, HE PLAYED WIT PIPPEN FOR THE DURATION OF HIS PRIME, SO NATURALLY, HE WILL HAVE THE BETTER CAREER NUMBERS... BUT PEAK FOR PEAK, KOBE'S 35.4 PPG SEASON IS MORE IMPRESSIVE IN TERMS OF RATIO THAN MJ'S 37 PPG SEASON.

Jordan's 28ppg rookie season and 37ppg season were before Pippen was even on the team silly. :pachaha:
 
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I don't want to know. :hubie:




Sometimes Kobestan so grammatically retarded I have no idea what it's even trying to say. :snoop:






You are literally the ONLY Kobestan I know who claims that opposing coaches were strategizing entire game plans against Kobe's defense. :mjgrin:







How did he hold prime Paul Pierce to 12ppg for an entire playoff series via "weakside help"?

How did he shut down Derrick Rose, Rajon Rondo, and Tony Parker for entire quarters based on "weakside help"?

How does he put up the following stats with "weakside help"?



LeBron 2016 Playoffs (21 games)

3.2/10.2 Defensive FGs defended

Overall, held opponents to 31.8% FG (Their average FG% was 45.9%

This is a differential of -14.1% (He held opponents to -14.8% their average FG%), which is by far the best mark... For comparison, Draymond was next best at -8.4%


To break it down even further to perimeter defense and Rim protection..

3PT DEFENSE

LeBron was the Cavs best 3pt defender, and along with Livingtson and context taken into account, the best 3pt defenders

0.9/3.8 Defensive Field Goals Defended

Held opponent 3pt shooters to 24.1% (Their average 3PT% was 36.7%)

This is a differential of -12.6%

Only one guy who played 15+ playoff games (Shawn Livingston) had a slightly better differential (Abet on lower volume)

RIM PROTECTION

1.4/3.3 Defensive Field Goals Defended

Held opponents at the rim to 43.5%

The best rim protection % on the Cavs

For reference Bogut held opponents to 46.6%, and Tristan Thompson 49.2%

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Here's also some stuff comparing him and DPOY winner Kawhi Leonard in the regular season

The usual field goal percent of the shooter that the player is defending
LeBron - 44.8%
Kawhi - 44.9%

Defense Dashboard

2pt FGs - Players shot 8.2% worse than their average when defended by LeBron
2pt FGs - Players shot 7.3% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi
3pt FGs - Players shots 2.7% worse than their average when defended by LeBron
3pt FGs - Players shot 1.3% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi
Overall - Players shot 7.4% worse than their average when defended by LeBron on 8.4 Defended FGs Per Game
Overall - Players shot 5.7% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi on 9.4 Defended FGs Per Game

Play type

When they were the closest isolation defender
LeBron - 69 possessions, .59 points per possession allowed, 28.8% eFG
Kawhi - 61 possessions, .69 points per possession allowed, 31% eFG

When they were the closest defender to the PnR ball handler
LeBron - 144 possessions, .66 ppp allowed, 37.1 eFG
Kawhi - 243 possessions, .65 ppp allowed, 35.8 eFG

When they were the roll man defender
LeBron - 10 possessions, .7 ppp, 38.9 eFG
Kawhi - 30 possessions, .5 ppp, 27.8 eFG

Post defense
LeBron - 43 possessions, .77 ppp, 40 eFG
Kawhi - 31 possessions, .77 ppp, 41.7 eFG

On spot up shooters
LeBron - 210 possessions, .8 ppp, 41.6 eFG
Kawhi - 200 possessions, .88 ppp, 43.6 eFG

Hand-offs
LeBron - 43 possessions, .49 ppp, 33.9 eFG
Leonard - 58 possessions, .72 ppp, 39.5 eFG

Off screens
LeBron - 78 possessions, .74 ppp, 40.8 eFG
Kawhi - 96 possessions, 1.05 ppp, 51.2 eFG
Finals Averages...
2.3 Blocks a game
2.6 Steals a game

2016 Playoff Averages
2.3 Steals a game
1.3 Blocks a game

In the last 3 games, LeBron averaged 3 blocks and 3 steals per game






Yeah, that guy averaging 7 points and 1 assist on 41.5% shooting and from three looked polished as hell.

Wait, maybe it was the next year, when he averaged 15 points and 2 assists on 42.8% shooting?

If Kobe was so damn polished, how he fall to #13 in the draft despite a high profile as the son of an NBA player?






Lebron scored NINE points in the final 6 minutes of the Warriors Game 7.

Kyrie scored THREE points in the final 6 minutes of the Warriors Game 7


Is that math beyond you? :skip:








Jordan's 28ppg rookie season and 37ppg season were before Pippen was even on the team silly. :pachaha:


TRY TO READ MY ENTIRE POST BEFORE U REPLY, ANALYTICS BOY
 

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I don't want to know. :hubie:




Sometimes Kobestan so grammatically retarded I have no idea what it's even trying to say. :snoop:






You are literally the ONLY Kobestan I know who claims that opposing coaches were strategizing entire game plans against Kobe's defense. :mjgrin:







How did he hold prime Paul Pierce to 12ppg for an entire playoff series via "weakside help"?

How did he shut down Derrick Rose, Rajon Rondo, and Tony Parker for entire quarters based on "weakside help"?

How does he put up the following stats with "weakside help"?



LeBron 2016 Playoffs (21 games)

3.2/10.2 Defensive FGs defended

Overall, held opponents to 31.8% FG (Their average FG% was 45.9%

This is a differential of -14.1% (He held opponents to -14.8% their average FG%), which is by far the best mark... For comparison, Draymond was next best at -8.4%


To break it down even further to perimeter defense and Rim protection..

3PT DEFENSE

LeBron was the Cavs best 3pt defender, and along with Livingtson and context taken into account, the best 3pt defenders

0.9/3.8 Defensive Field Goals Defended

Held opponent 3pt shooters to 24.1% (Their average 3PT% was 36.7%)

This is a differential of -12.6%

Only one guy who played 15+ playoff games (Shawn Livingston) had a slightly better differential (Abet on lower volume)

RIM PROTECTION

1.4/3.3 Defensive Field Goals Defended

Held opponents at the rim to 43.5%

The best rim protection % on the Cavs

For reference Bogut held opponents to 46.6%, and Tristan Thompson 49.2%

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Here's also some stuff comparing him and DPOY winner Kawhi Leonard in the regular season

The usual field goal percent of the shooter that the player is defending
LeBron - 44.8%
Kawhi - 44.9%

Defense Dashboard

2pt FGs - Players shot 8.2% worse than their average when defended by LeBron
2pt FGs - Players shot 7.3% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi
3pt FGs - Players shots 2.7% worse than their average when defended by LeBron
3pt FGs - Players shot 1.3% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi
Overall - Players shot 7.4% worse than their average when defended by LeBron on 8.4 Defended FGs Per Game
Overall - Players shot 5.7% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi on 9.4 Defended FGs Per Game

Play type

When they were the closest isolation defender
LeBron - 69 possessions, .59 points per possession allowed, 28.8% eFG
Kawhi - 61 possessions, .69 points per possession allowed, 31% eFG

When they were the closest defender to the PnR ball handler
LeBron - 144 possessions, .66 ppp allowed, 37.1 eFG
Kawhi - 243 possessions, .65 ppp allowed, 35.8 eFG

When they were the roll man defender
LeBron - 10 possessions, .7 ppp, 38.9 eFG
Kawhi - 30 possessions, .5 ppp, 27.8 eFG

Post defense
LeBron - 43 possessions, .77 ppp, 40 eFG
Kawhi - 31 possessions, .77 ppp, 41.7 eFG

On spot up shooters
LeBron - 210 possessions, .8 ppp, 41.6 eFG
Kawhi - 200 possessions, .88 ppp, 43.6 eFG

Hand-offs
LeBron - 43 possessions, .49 ppp, 33.9 eFG
Leonard - 58 possessions, .72 ppp, 39.5 eFG

Off screens
LeBron - 78 possessions, .74 ppp, 40.8 eFG
Kawhi - 96 possessions, 1.05 ppp, 51.2 eFG
Finals Averages...
2.3 Blocks a game
2.6 Steals a game

2016 Playoff Averages
2.3 Steals a game
1.3 Blocks a game

In the last 3 games, LeBron averaged 3 blocks and 3 steals per game






Yeah, that guy averaging 7 points and 1 assist on 41.5% shooting and from three looked polished as hell.

Wait, maybe it was the next year, when he averaged 15 points and 2 assists on 42.8% shooting?

If Kobe was so damn polished, how he fall to #13 in the draft despite a high profile as the son of an NBA player?






Lebron scored NINE points in the final 6 minutes of the Warriors Game 7.

Kyrie scored THREE points in the final 6 minutes of the Warriors Game 7


Is that math beyond you? :skip:








Jordan's 28ppg rookie season and 37ppg season were before Pippen was even on the team silly. :pachaha:
Keep in mind you are arguing with someone who thinks Kobe would be better off playing with Scottie instead of Shaq and that teams would be doubling Scottie off of Kobe, who they would apparently leave wide open if they played together.
 
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