Kyrie Irving opts in.... Will stay with Nets

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The precedent of a max level player, and someone who’s at worst the 2nd best PG in the league when healthy, signing for less than max money.

If LA can get it done, congratulations to them. It’s gonna be looked at funny by the Players Association, especially with how close it is to the CBA being up and the new one being negotiated

A healthy Kyrie ain't better than Luka, Trae or Ja never mind Lillard, CP3 and Harden.
 

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Actually you’re right I was missing the expired contracts next year …as long as LeBron is willing to not extend this summer they’ll be able to use cap space to offer Kyrie a deal and then max LeBron using his bird rights :ohhh: this shyt might get interesting lol


*only thing that will be a problem is LeBrons cap hold ..it’s like 50 million dollars which is essentially like a salary cap place holder teams are forced to adhere to when it comes to using players bird rights …they’d have to let LeBron become a free agent then resign him and Kyrie both at deals that will probably less than max (don’t know how realistic that is)

Why would LeBron have a cap hold? He's an unrestricted free agent next summer.
 

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The precedent of a max level player, and someone who’s at worst the 2nd best PG in the league when healthy, signing for less than max money.

If LA can get it done, congratulations to them. It’s gonna be looked at funny by the Players Association, especially with how close it is to the CBA being up and the new one being negotiated

I disagree, especially if the Lakers give Kyrie a 5 year max next summer as a sign of appreciation for taking less money. The players association needs to be focused on telling players to save their money. Owners are going to come guns blazing during the next CBA negotiations. Wouldn't be surprised if they push for contract clawbacks on player holdouts and trade demands.
 

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Nets Fo is dumb ass fukk if they think kyrie signing less than a max. Jalen brunson about to get 25m.

Sign Kyrie for WHAT? A first round exit?

They can do that without Kyrie. In fact, if history has taught us anything, they will most likely improve without Kyrie.

It’s addition by subtraction with that bozo.

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Might be willing to bet on himself for 1 year. His injury history could hurt potential contracts this summer.

That would be the dumbest thing he could do. It is because of the injury history that he should take the big deals.

History indicates that often than not you should take the deal when you have a checkered injury history. See DeMarcus Cousins, Victor Oladipo, Nerlens Noel, etc. When you find teams who are willing to overpay despite your injury history, you take the deal immediately.
 

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Why would LeBron have a cap hold? He's an unrestricted free agent next summer.
It's a built in restriction so teams can't cheat the salary cap while using bird rights

The general purpose of a cap hold is to prevent teams from using room under the cap to sign free agents before using Bird rights to re-sign their own free agents. If a team wants to take advantage of its cap space, it can renounce the rights to its own free agents, eliminating those cap holds



The Cap in 2023 will probably be around 125ish million...with AD, THT and their first round pick making around 55-58 million total plus mandatory vet minimum cap holds required for every roster spot that's not occupied (1.1million x 12 open roster spots) the lakers would have roughly around 70 ish million to split between LeBron and Kyrie...which means somebody would have to take a pretty large pay cut...or if they could dump THT that would give them an extra 10 million to split between the two


Just quick back if the napkin math
 

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It's a built in restriction so teams can't cheat the salary cap while using bird rights





The Cap in 2023 will probably be around 125ish million...with AD, THT and their first round pick making around 55-58 million total plus mandatory vet minimum cap holds required for every roster spot that's not occupied (1.1million x 12 open roster spots) the lakers would have roughly around 70 ish million to split between LeBron and Kyrie...which means somebody would have to take a pretty large pay cut...or if they could dump THT that would give them an extra 10 million to split between the two


Just quick back if the napkin math

Couldn't they exceed the cap to sign LeBron? Sign Kyrie to max then sign Bron after.
 

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That would be the dumbest thing he could do. It is because of the injury history that he should take the big deals.

History indicates that often than not you should take the deal when you have a checkered injury history. See DeMarcus Cousins, Victor Oladipo, Nerlens Noel, etc. When you find teams who are willing to overpay despite your injury history, you take the deal immediately.

He's not getting a big deal. He'll probably get $20-30M offers this summer.
 

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What about

Brooklyn - Dame
Lakers - Kyrie
Portland - Westbrook and picks


I don’t see Kyrie going to the Lakers unless a third team gets involved that’s not prioritizing winning.
not happening.

Portland didn't trade for Jerami Grant just to flip Dame for Westbrook.
 

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Sign Kyrie for WHAT? A first round exit?

They can do that without Kyrie. In fact, if history has taught us anything, they will most likely improve without Kyrie.

It’s addition by subtraction with that bozo.

:camby:
You're not adding anything by losing a top-15 player in the NBA who fits in any system. Kyrie is his prime right now. If Kyrie doesn't get hurt him and KD likely have a ring already. This is a nonsense take
 
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