Kyrie wants to be TRADED

[Gravity]

2-4 in the Finals? Including the worst loss in finals history? On his way to another loss? Stats and game diminishing before your eyes? Typical Lebron fan response. Ignore the obvious and run to stats.

Basketball is a team sport dumbass. Lebron doesn't win/lose by himself. No matter how you slice it he's had an extremely successful career and is already regarded as one of the best players of all time. He's got 2 more rings than the pgs that I was comparing him to combined. He's gotten a lot farther than any ball dominant point guard that you want to compare him to. That's the only point that's relevant here.

Lebron doesn't have the skill set to be a wing player so he kills everyone else's talent. If he had the ability to be a wing his game wouldn't be deteriorating at such speed.

This stupidity isn't even worth responding to. If you quote me again you'll get nothing but insults in return so I advise you to KIM.

 

[Gravity]

Spurs are even better this year. Warriors look even better than the Spurs. Why do you think that is?

Lebron is a supremely talented player but he's been absurdly stubborn. Hero ball and ball stopping doesn't work in the NBA anymore.

Yea yea yea if Lebron could've hit a midrange jumper instead of being brick cold outside of 8 feet in the finals they win last year playing "hero/iso ball" w/out Kyrie and Love.

 

[Edub]

He gotta get alot better at D. He needs to be more of a playmaker if he's gonna be an elite pg. He is young and there's room to grow. And he just needs to be more consistent with his all around game. Just compare his skill set to a guy like westbrook

Right about the d definitely...he needs to take the Steph curry route...get so excellent with your offensive game it outweighs your D deficiencies...he either needs to do that or develop lock down d. He'd get more respect developing lock down d imo...and he could anticipate pass cut assist opportunities a lot more. But overall I think he'll be ok...a lil off topic but D Russell should be watched for too.

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

Right about the d definitely...he needs to take the Steph curry route...get so excellent with your offensive game it outweighs your D deficiencies...he either needs to do that or develop lock down d. He'd get more respect developing lock down d imo...and he could anticipate pass cut assist opportunities a lot more. But overall I think he'll be ok...a lil off topic but D Russell should be watched for too.

The funny thing about it was at the end of last season he started to show signs of being a two way player. Maybe as he continues to get more games under his belt this year he'll get back to that form. Better leadership would help accelerate that. Wish Bron would lead by example

 

[jaguar paw]

The funny thing about it was at the end of last season he started to show signs of being a two way player. Maybe as he continues to get more games under his belt this year he'll get back to that form. Better leadership would help accelerate that. Wish Bron would lead by example

But Bron isn't a poor leader of men tho....

@Dayco23

:gotcha:

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

But Bron isn't a poor leader of men tho....

@Dayco23

:gotcha:

I know my boy didn't say that

 

[Dayco23]

But Bron isn't a poor leader of men tho....

@Dayco23

:gotcha:

Kyrie not trying is his own fault.

 

[jaguar paw]

Kyrie not trying is his own fault.

People (especially younger people) take their cues from their leaders.

That's in any work environment. shyt in any aspect of life.

It still is the biggest crack in their foundation.

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

Kyrie not trying is his own fault.

True. But guys like Mj,Kobe,and KG would be all over his ass Even non stars like Oakley would be in his face for lack of hustle. Bron not only allows it but is part of it at that times.

 

[Dayco23]

People (especially younger people) take their cues from their leaders.

That's in any work environment. shyt in any aspect of life.

It still is the biggest crack in their foundation.

Kyrie should be a leader to others. He was the franchise player for 4 years.

True. But guys like Mj,Kobe,and KG would be all over his ass Even non stars like Oakley would be in his face for lack of hustle. Bron not only allows it but is part of it at that times.

Kyrie shouldn't have to be told to play defense. It's his 5th year in the league. He gets paid millions to give 100%. Blaming LBJ for Kyrie's lack of effort is ass backwards.

 

[No Homo]

Don't come at me with that bullshyt about how great he is and how he defies all odds and then cop the fukk outta some pleas when shyt don't go his way.

The story of this nikka's career is about what he didn't have to play with when it mattered most. I hate how that shyt applies to him and only him.

This

 

[jaguar paw]

Kyrie should be a leader to others. He was the franchise player for 4 years.


Kyrie shouldn't have to be told to play defense. It's his 5th year in the league. He gets paid millions to give 100%. Blaming LBJ for Kyrie's lack of effort is ass backwards.

How many 23 year old athletes are leaders of men?

The Cavs allowed Kyrie to do what the fukk he wanted to do since day one. I'll give you that.

But LeBron has selective effort on the court, isolates his teammates, steps away from blame when shyt goes bad, and is passive aggressive by nature.

The entire team goes as he does. Period.

He's an all time great. But he's also a terrible leader of men.

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

Kyrie should be a leader to others. He was the franchise player for 4 years.


Kyrie shouldn't have to be told to play defense. It's his 5th year in the league. He gets paid millions to give 100%. Blaming LBJ for Kyrie's lack of effort is ass backwards.

What about Brons lack of effort? How many times have he not gotten back on D? Even after Blatt got fired Bron still takes many d possessions off. If it's Kyrie's fault Bron gotta blame himself for LBJ not playing hard either. He's not only failing to set the tone for the team as a true leader should but he's failing to set the tone for LeBron James as well.

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

How many 23 year old athletes are leaders of men?

The Cavs allowed Kyrie to do what the fukk he wanted to do since day one. I'll give you that.

But LeBron has selective effort on the court, isolates his teammates, steps away from blame when shyt goes bad, and is passive aggressive by nature.

The entire team goes as he does. Period.

He's an all time great. But he's also a terrible leader of men.

And I only been focusing on D in thread. I'm not gonna get into the offense or other traits a leader should show Yes it is Kyrie's fault but if Bron is such a great leader why don't he show the young fella the right way of doing things

 

[Dayco23]

How many 23 year old athletes are leaders of men?

The Cavs allowed Kyrie to do what the fukk he wanted to do since day one. I'll give you that.

But LeBron has selective effort on the court, isolates his teammates, steps away from blame when shyt goes bad, and is passive aggressive by nature.

The entire team goes as he does. Period.

He's an all time great. But he's also a terrible leader of men.

Damien lillard is a pretty good leader, Draymond green is a pretty good leader. They both have been in the league for less time than Kyrie. Stop makin excuses.

What about Brons lack of effort? How many times have he not gotten back on D? Even after Blatt got fired Bron still takes many d possessions off. If it's Kyrie's fault Bron gotta blame himself for LBJ not playing hard either. He's not only failing to set the tone for the team as a true leader should but he's failing to set the tone for LeBron James as well.

This isn't a Bron thread. You guys keep trying to make Kyrie's lackadaisical effort about Bron. Kyrie cries about not getting the ball but then when he has it never makes a pass. He never gets back on D or tries to fight around a screen. Bron involves the team way more often and plays defense way more often and its not even arguable. He's also 31 years old to Kyrie's 23. Kyrie gives full effort like 5% of the time.