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[Wiseborn]

Yup, thieves can be trusted to show up to court.

You think it's worth it to arrest nikkas for stealing razor blades?

I'll bet you could commit armed robbery and somehow dip to New Zealand and the FBI wouldn't spend the money time in resources to apprehend you. If the

If you had a store, would you give your stuff away for free? If someone repeatedly stole from you, would you want them to face no consequences? There is no incentive not to steal if there is no consequence. This is where society is heading. People are doing whatever they want. Kids see this. Anyone with common sense teaches their kids not to do this, but if they see people doing it, and getting away with it, why should they follow the rules?

There's already know real conseqences to stealing now either move away or allow Stand your ground to fully take over or lock everything up and sell it behind bulletproof glass.

I guess you think they're doing this because they're "liberal" Three strikes fukked up the California legal system. It's not designed to hold that many people so if the crime is small they're gonna let them go so they have space for dudes with gang enhancements and spree shooters.


You really think a 3 month sentance is a deterrant to a homeless or even just.a desperate person? Three strikes wasn't a detterant and that was extremely expensive.

So you'd have to decriminalize certain shyt or go back to this:

 

[Admiral Ackbar]

I get people can not show up for court, and collect warrants like Pokémon cards.

Few defendants run, most don't go far and return to the system. Rises to a felony after so many warrants and references. Judges and DAs have discretion to not release them, place them in programs.

Businesses get reparations. Insurance, tax write-offs, restitution. They're not gravely suffering.

 

[Wiseborn]

Few defendants run, most don't go far and return to the system. Rises to a felony after so many warrants and references. Judges and DAs have discretion to not release them, place them in programs.

Businesses get reparations. Insurance, tax write-offs, restitution. They're not gravely suffering.

That's the point if it don't make dollars it don't make sense. They tried to gentrfy neighborhoods before they did Negro removals so when all these Walmarts and Targets opened and nikkas started stealing they closed them. Now the Koreeans or whoever can pass the high ass insurance on to their customers and they'll sell everything because they'll have a monopoly.

Pay one goon fresh out of Prison to beat the asses of the fentanyl addicts who steal problem sloved.

 

[bnew]

Because for some people, usually the ones who commit crime, the only incentive not to do it in the first place is not being able to afford to get out. People with money tend not to do the crimes in this new policy.

that's not true



people can still be convicted of a crime at trial, they just won't rot in jail because they can't afford bail in a bail system until trial.

based on a few anecdotes, you choose to ignore numerous research and studies that support ending cash-bail.

Chicago Bail Reform Didn't Increase Crime: Study | The Crime Report

Cash bail system can be unjust, Penn Law study finds | Penn Today

The Injustice Of Cash Bail | HuffPost

Detaining the Poor: How money bail perpetuates an endless cycle of poverty and jail time

What You Need To Know About Ending Cash Bail - Center for American Progress

PolitiFact - Are U.S., Philippines the only two countries with money bail?

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

that's not true



people can still be convicted of a crime at trial, they just won't rot in jail because they can't afford bail in a bail system until trial.

You expect all those people to show up to court?

I don’t understand this push to not have people sitting in jail. These are not random innocent people. They are criminals. I don’t care if they aren’t violent. They have to face a consequence. I’m square, and even I know people who have a ton of warrants, and successfully evade the police.

 

[bnew]

You expect all those people to show up to court?

I don’t understand this push to not have people sitting in jail. These are not random innocent people. They are criminals. I don’t care if they aren’t violent. They have to face a consequence. I’m square, and even I know people who have a ton of warrants, and successfully evade the police.

No, not everyone accused, arrested or jailed is a criminal.

Innocence Project

We work to free the innocent, prevent wrongful convictions, and create fair, compassionate, and equitable systems of justice for everyone.

innocenceproject.org

everyone charged must their day in court and they shouldn't have their life upended waiting for trial if they're not a threat to the community.

 

[I Really Mean It]

I understand some crimes. But they included battery. And the way folks shoplift with reckless abandon as Is, this just adds fuel to the fire of burgeoning criminal enterprises.

most people shoplift because they’re suffering from economic deprivation. giving them bail amounts to a tax on the poor.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

No, not everyone accused, arrested or jailed is a criminal.

Innocence Project

We work to free the innocent, prevent wrongful convictions, and create fair, compassionate, and equitable systems of justice for everyone.

innocenceproject.org

everyone charged must their day in court and they shouldn't have their life upended waiting for trial if they're not a threat to the community.

I’m talking about people caught in the act.

 

[bnew]

I’m talking about people caught in the act.

"caught in the act" could mean any number of scenarios and I don't know what your litmus test is for that.

plenty of people have been "caught in act" only for it to later be a gross misunderstanding.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

"caught in the act" could mean any number of scenarios and I don't know what your litmus test is for that.

plenty of people have been "caught in act" only for it to later be a gross misunderstanding.

What’s there to understand about someone bringing in a trash bag, and filling up with merchandise, and leaving? Was he the new maintenance guy?

 

[bnew]

So if you’re poor, you should face no consequence for theft? Just let poor people take whatever they want?

thats how it always worked for the rich and still does.

FYI, wage-theft eclipses all of retail theft and burglaries combined.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

thats how it always worked for the rich and still does.

FYI, wage-theft eclipses all of retail theft and burglaries combined.

No excuse to steal

NONE

 

[bnew]

What’s there to understand about someone bringing in a trash bag, and filling up with merchandise, and leaving? Was he the new maintenance guy?

person gets arrested and released while awaiting their trial date, whats the problem?

 

[bnew]

No excuse to steal

NONE

“The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.”​

― Anatole France

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

person gets arrested and released while awaiting their trial date, whats the problem?

Again, those people don’t necessarily show up to their court date, and they don’t all serve time. There has to be a consequence.

“The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.”​

― Anatole France

There are all kinds of programs to help the poor. You can get free training on unemployment. Some people just put not effort into improving their lives. The government is not going to knock on your door, and help you. And for those of us who work, and pay taxes, it’s a slap in the face that those who don’t expect things handed to them.