L.A. MINIMUM WAGE APPROVED FOR $15

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

You should be questioning why someone with an undergrad degree makes a wage that low.... not why minimum wage is attempting to be that high.

That's a fair point. Regardless that's the only way I'm good with such a large increase in MW.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

After they gentrify y'all nikkas they'll stop thinking about it and make it happen.

That still won't stop people from outside of the city limits, from working inside of them and benefiting from it. and moving back into the city.

Do you know what gentrification means?

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

I said an area with a high number of nursing grads. But honestly a lot of hospitals have frozen raises for RN's and hospital staff and it's been that way for years. So they already stopped increasing the salaries completely. That does not help 2. of your argument, does it?

Those frozen raises are most likely due to the uncertainty of the affordable care act and what that would do for their respective hospitals . Ultimately once Obamacare settles the shortage of nurses will still remain and people will need to be incentivized to get those jobs.

Keep in mind about your point about an area with high nursing grounds just because there's a lot of nurses in the market doesn't mean that they're all good ones. so there could still be a very high turnover rate which is going to put a premium on recruiting and retaining a high standard of nurses . One of the ways to do that is obviously paying them well .

 

[RatherUnique]

Stop with this "Americans" rhetoric, secondly, stop having the chip on your shoulder. The wealthy rule the world, not just America. You can put on your tin foil hat and be up in arms about it, or you can mind your business and do the best you can for yourself and your family.

That is interesting, because it can be directed at the people who can't mind their buisiness about the working class trying to take care of themselves and their families with a wage hike.

 

[RatherUnique]

Those frozen raises are most likely due to the uncertainty of the affordable care act and what that would do for their respective hospitals . Ultimately once Obamacare settles the shortage of nurses will still remain and people will need to be incentivized to get those jobs.

Keep in mind about your point about an area with high nursing grounds just because there's a lot of nurses in the market doesn't mean that they're all good ones. so there could still be a very high turnover rate which is going to put a premium on recruiting and retaining a high standard of nurses . One of the ways to do that is obviously paying them well .

In my area that is not why the wages were frozen. It's because the hospitals claim not to have the ability to pay what new grads and established nurses want, meanwhile the CEO's and top tiers of these hospitals are raking in millions and millions. It's just a microcosm of what is going on in a larger scale. The bottom is left to fight over raises and wage hikes, while the top is laughing to the bank. But you can always blame Obamacare

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

In my area that is not why the wages were frozen. It's because the hospitals claim not to have the ability to pay what new grads and established nurses want, meanwhile the CEO's and top tiers of these hospitals are raking in millions and millions. It's just a microcosm of what is going on in a larger scale. The bottom is left to fight over raises and wage hikes, while the top is laughing to the bank. But you can always blame Obamacare

Obamacare is huge policy change. One of the biggest ever. The leaders of health organizations don't quite know exactly how they are going to deal with the changes.. Ex. Reimbursement rates from cms decreased.
So of course there will be some issues with salaries of health workers for the time being until we settle in to this new era of health care

 

[YouMadd?]

I'm squarely behind fighting for the middle class - the people closest to me, we are suffering, my primary concern is not unskilled labor....I feel for the college grad who is in debt but underpaid, the once gainfully employed skilled laborer who can't find manufacturing jobs....not the people who's ability to breathe and press and key on the register is the most they can contribute. Minimum wage was set to stop labor exploitation, not provide a middle class life.

Well said...

 

[YouMadd?]

I will admit it's hard to "keep up" up with your unnecessary use of bold lettering and large spacing but I'll try. But relax, because you aren't coming with anything groundbreaking. Have you heard of such a phenomena where applicants are considered "overqualified." If you are familiar, then how can you think that "Type B," the obviously overqualified applicant in your hypothetical, would be picked? Right away that long winded hypothetical seems at odd with reality. And in any case, at least here in NY, a 10 dollar an hour job is basically a minimum wage type of job anyways. So there isn't much difference between the two types.

I'm just delivering an opposing argument to you and basically telling you your crusade for the poor can backfire in this scenario. How about you debate the material and not what you think about my font type.

That's cool you are in ny. 7.50 And $10 is an example. In NY $10 would equate to $7.50 in my scenario because most skilled workers in NY probably aren't jumping at the chance to work a $10/hr job.

Type B would be chosen most times. There is empirical evidence of this. This is one of the most popular debates in the economic community right now

www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2014/Murphyminimumwage.html

When it comes to shytty wage jobs, "overqualified" gets thrown out of the window. Most people would rather hire a potential manager willing to work hard over, a teenager for example. The unskilled will get screwed. Unskilled are usually teens as well. Teens then have to rely on middle class parents for money. Middle class loses a little buying power

 

[Sad Bunny]

Yup.

Fast food joints gonna be like fukk it.....take this 10 hour week

 

[Black_Jesus]

Yup.

Fast food joints gonna be like fukk it.....take this 10 hour week

I doubt it. they would probably lay people off or decrease the number of staff working at a time though... the ones who are working will still get their hours

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

I doubt it. they would probably lay people off or decrease the number of staff working at a time though... the ones who are working will still get their hours

No they won't, that's been an issue with min. wage earners for year, companies keep them under 38 hours (or whatever the cutoff is) to avoid having to provide beenfits. People aren't going to get paid more, and receive beenfits, and keeps 40 hours. Retail has don't this forever, you get about 25-33% of your staff as full time, the rest as swing shift/part time

 

[C-NICE]

Where you been at bruh

I thought I hit you up breh I moved to LA now lol

Breh, You really making Atlanta out to be some bullshyt ass city with little job opportunity when it comes to it's educated workforce and their jobs.

Wish I saw this yesterday breh I love ATL and I'm damn near spent most of my life there but you telling me that people have more opportunity there than NYC/LA come on be real. How can you compare the two cities I know people love to call ATL the black Hollywood but that's exactly what it is Hollywood on a much much smaller scale. I'm most def not saying there isn't jobs for the educated in the A trust me all of my homies and fam live there but its not LA by no means economically IMO

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

I thought I hit you up breh I moved to LA now lol


Wish I saw this yesterday breh I love ATL and I'm damn near spent most of my life there but you telling me that people have more opportunity there than NYC/LA come on be real. How can you compare the two cities I know people love to call ATL the black Hollywood but that's exactly what it is Hollywood on a much much smaller scale. I'm most def not saying there isn't jobs for the educated in the A trust me all of my homies and fam live there but its not LA by no means economically IMO

I never said that breh, LA does have more opportunity, but Atlanta isn't some bullshyt ass city when it comes to jobs for the educated.

you making Atlanta out to be damn Valdosta

 

[MikelArteta]

People keep arguing whether raising the wage will raise the prices. How about the worker? Raising minimum wage this much will make it HARDER for the low skilled worker to find get one of these low skill jobs with higher wages and pretty much gives employers other criteria to use in hiring, like race, age, sex, class etc. low skilled workers are getting priced out of the market essentially.

This means that 15 year old Jose will not get the burger flipping job that will keep his non English speaking family afloat because the job went to 22 year old Sarah w/ a liberal arts degree who can't find a job after college and otherwise would live off her parents as opposed to flipping burger. She'll flip burgers now if she can make an entry level salary. Employers are thinking Why pay little Jose the money when I can just pay the educated white one.

It's more complex than your Big Mac rising in price.

pretty much goo dpoints.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

Yup.

Fast food joints gonna be like fukk it.....take this 10 hour week

More likely than not, these cats will get their hours... you'll see stores maxing out at 32 hours for everyone who's not a manager.

Morning,Lunch and Afternoon rush aint something to play with just cause you don't want to give out hours.