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It is clear that Agent Urnge has no plan. This clown is freeballing. Congress is letting this man push this country into a recession or worse and these fools will still try to give the ultra rich a tax cut and then cut government benefits. Complete nonsense.

 

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It's baseless in that It's not going to be a real shortage, but knowing people freak out and panic buy, I usually cop up either way.

Here is my argument and everyone can wave it away if they want …. Is every part of the toilet paper supply chain including the machinery that makes it made in America?

If not there is a risk of not just price hikes but shortages.

Let’s take that a step further, most things made in America that are 100% manufactured or grown here still relies on trade for things that allow for maintenance, shipping, or even sales.

What Trump has set off is incredibly irresponsible and no one in this thread can accurately predict what will or will not take a hit. So there is a strong likelihood of shortages and price hikes on domestic goods too.

I don't know the toilet paper supply chain, but like most products there's probably something sourced internationally. Supply chain crunches usually have reverberating effects in that something that isn't directly impacted can become impacted. Labor, other canceled or delayed production can ruin other schedules causing price increases. We're about to go through the proverbial accordion squeeze in supply chain.

Everything has some international component true, most of the toilet/paper towel supply chain is domestic (I used to work for a company that sold equipment to them). The biggest issue is spares if they have Chinese made machinery or if they bring in cheap pulp but this is from South America usually.

Details aside, I was just emphasizing that when shortages kick off, people horde everything regardless of tariff impact.
 

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Everything has some international component true, most of the toilet/paper towel supply chain is domestic (I used to work for a company that sold equipment to them). The biggest issue is spares if they have Chinese made machinery or if they bring in cheap pulp but this is from South America usually.

Details aside, I was just emphasizing that when shortages kick off, people horde everything regardless of tariff impact.
 

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[Soft Paywall] Trump Claims He’s Made 200 Deals on Tariffs. His Cabinet Members Can’t Name One



Posted on Sun Apr 27 17:42:45 2025 UTC

 

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It is clear that Agent Urnge has no plan. This clown is freeballing. Congress is letting this man push this country into a recession or worse and these fools will still try to give the ultra rich a tax cut and then cut government benefits. Complete nonsense.

I have never seen anything like this except Brexit and not only was brexit a mistake…. The people of the UK voted for it. This is a a US version of brexit but people don’t support it. It’s like a societal rape. There are no other words to describe it. Even Trump’s supporters didn’t vote for this.

I don’t know what the republicans are doing, either they have legitimate plans to become dictators which I don’t think they do because the smartest of them aren’t involved in any of this or they are ruining America and setting the table for a FDR type president to have Carte Blanche to not only make systemic changes but potentially put them in jail.

Who are they going to run in 4 years for the White House, JD Vance?
 

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I have never seen anything like this except Brexit and not only was brexit a mistake…. The people of the UK voted for it. This is a a US version of brexit but people don’t support it. It’s like a societal rape. There are no other words to describe it. Even Trump’s supporters didn’t vote for this.

I don’t know what the republicans are doing, either they have legitimate plans to become dictators which I don’t think they do because the smartest of them aren’t involved in any of this or they are ruining America and setting the table for a FDR type president to have Carte Blanche to not only make systemic changes but potentially put them in jail.

Who are they going to run in 4 years for the White House, JD Vance?
shyt, many of these MAGA’s and BothSiders were literally voting to break the system.

So, system is being broken.

Only the system is breaking them too.

However, rich people and STEM aren’t being affected as much. Many Scientists and Engineers for example will be able to find work basically in any environment. Same goes for Military. Those Scientists and Engineers were the ones telling people to not vote for this.

Rich people’s pockets took a hit but they’re still better off than most people. Regular people getting laid off and losing money can’t find work unless they got a special background like STEM or Military.

It’s people who didn’t want level up and were relying on grifters that are going to get destroyed.

I’d hate to not be rich already, a non-STEM major or someone with no Military experience right now

If you don’t have any of that, at least hopefully you’re someone with a solid footing in your company working at a company not about to be affected by tariffs. shyt is about to hit the fan.
 
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shyt, many of these MAGA’s and BothSiders were literally voting to break the system.

So, system is being broken.

Only the system is breaking them too.

However, rich people and STEM aren’t being affected as much. Many Scientists and Engineers for example will be able to find work basically in any environment. Those same Scientists and Engineers were the ones telling people to not vote for this.

Rich people’s pockets took a hit but they’re still better off than most people. Regular people getting laid off and losing money can’t find work unless they got a special background like STEM or Military.

It’s people who didn’t want level up and were relying on grifters that are going to get destroyed.
That’s the thing… the system is designed to help people who are lower class, and middle class. At a certain point it’s then designed to force you to find additional wealth through investments in either the market, a business, or property. It forces people to do capitalism.

It’s been about 100 days and Trump is legit breaking capitalism. He’s deporting cheap labor, firing white collar workers, cutting us off from foreign markets, and doing budget cuts on the government. The motherfukker crashed both the stock and bond market.

Those rich people are going to see the same shyt the poor is from these tariffs. Stagflation is already here. Rich people and Middle class people can insulate themselves better but no one is impervious to a direct hit and Trump is stupidly shooting at everyone.

The only thing Donald Trump does is lie and/or do racist/sexist/xenophobic shyt. The only justification to support him is you have some hate in your heart for a group and are willing to suffer to see them suffer even right beside you.

Nobody is “winning”…. Even that bullshyt tax cut is a trap because once again it’s setting the table for a FDR president & it’s not going to keep up with inflation. 1% versus everybody sounds cool, but the rhetoric is getting more violent and we seen multiple mini revolts before.
 
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[Soft Paywall] Trump Claims He’s Made 200 Deals on Tariffs. His Cabinet Members Can’t Name One



Posted on Sun Apr 27 17:42:45 2025 UTC



When asked to say which countries agreed to these supposed deals, Trump said, “Because the deal is a deal that I choose,” before going on a rant about how the U.S. is “a department store.”




“And on behalf of the American people, I own the store, and I set prices, and I’ll say, if you want to shop here, this is what you have to pay,” the president said.


CNN’s Dana Bash confronted Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins during Sunday’s State of the Union, asking her to name one of the deals the administration has reached.

“The president told Time magazine, quote, ‘I have made 200 deals,” Bash said. “He didn’t give us any details about what those could be, what countries he’s talking about. Has he actually inked any trade deals, and with whom?”

.@DanaBashCNN asks @SecRollins about Trump's trade deals: "My understanding is we should have several this week that are coming forward that are very, very close." pic.twitter.com/lg8aJHyd8b
— State of the Union (@CNNSOTU) April 27, 2025
On the deals, we have 100 countries that are knocking on the door,” Rollins said. “I believe — I’m not in the room, I’m not negotiating the trade deals. But my understanding is, we should have several this week that are coming forward that are very, very close. China is a very important one. Every day, we are in conversation with China, along with those other 99, 100 countries that have come to the table.”

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Of course, having some deals that are “very, very close” is not the same thing as having made “200 deals,” as Trump has explicitly claimed.

Rising trade tensions between the U.S. and China has already led to an increase in canceled shipmentsbetween Asia and North America after Trump jacked up tariffs on Chinese imports to 145 percent. China, meanwhile, has implemented retaliatory tariffs in addition to economic restrictions of exports of rare earth mineral to the United States and restrictions on 18 major U.S. manufacturers and defense companies.




While Trump and his administration have claimed they are in ongoing negotiations with China, Chinese officials have said that those talks have not happened. The Chinese ministry of commerce said that the administration’s claims they are in daily contact “are groundless and have no factual basis.”

“China and the United States have not held consultations or negotiations on the tariff issue, let alone reached an agreement,” the ministry said Thursday.

When confronted with that statement, Trump insisted a journalist had his “reporting wrong.”

Reporter: “[China is] saying it's fake news that trade talks are happening.”

Trump: “Well, they had a meeting this morning.”

Reporter: “Who's they?”

Trump: “I can't tell you. It doesn't matter who they is.” pic.twitter.com/lwXsm06gUl
— The Bulwark (@BulwarkOnline) April 24, 2025
Another Trump cabinet member, Treasury Sec. Scott Bessent, tried to justify Trump’s claim of “200 deals” by saying he actually meant “sub deals.”


Y’all realize we are in trouble, right? Lmao
 

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That’s the thing… the system is designed to help people who are lower class, and middle class. At a certain point it’s then designed to force you to find additional wealth through investments in either the market, a business, or property. It forces people to do capitalism.

It’s been about 100 days and Trump is legit breaking capitalism. Those rich people are going to see the same shyt the poor is from these tariffs. Stagflation is already here. Rich people and Middle class people can insulate themselves better but no one is impervious to a direct hit and Trump is stupidly shooting at everyone.
Yeah, it’s why I’ve been saying if you’re not high-achieving person or just want to chill and do less work while still making good progress, this is the worst timeline.

Tough times are when the most determined or those with stellar careers make a big leap in front of everyone not those things.

This is the part when the rich get richer, even if they may take a hit those with less take a bigger hit. The gap gets blown wide open at times like this.

When it’s going good/safe for everyone, that’s when top performers relax more and people can catch up and invest in themselves because of a raised floor/safety net.

Now is the time when top performers are on high alert and start putting in effort and work. That’s bad for everyone else who kind of want to coast and chill. Most people simply don’t have that level in them.
 

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Yeah, it’s why I’ve been saying if you’re not high-achieving person or just want to chill and do less work while still making good progress, this is the worst timeline.

Tough times are when the most determined or those with stellar careers make a big leap in front of everyone not those things.

When it’s going good/safe for everyone, that’s when top performers relax more and people can catch up and invest in themselves because of a raised floor/safety net.

Now is the time when top performers are on high alert and start putting in effort and work. That’s bad for everyone else who kind of want to coast and chill. Most people simply don’t have that level in them.
I mean chaos is always an opportunity. I just don’t think you can grind it out until you know what bottom is. Even the grinders are going to take a hit. People are going to need luck, hard work, and God to come out better than they went in.
 

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That’s the thing… the system is designed to help people who are lower class, and middle class. At a certain point it’s then designed to force you to find additional wealth through investments in either the market, a business, or property. It forces people to do capitalism.

It’s been about 100 days and Trump is legit breaking capitalism. He’s deporting cheap labor, firing white collar workers, cutting us off from foreign markets, and doing budget cuts on the government. The motherfukker crashed both the stock and bond market.

Those rich people are going to see the same shyt the poor is from these tariffs. Stagflation is already here. Rich people and Middle class people can insulate themselves better but no one is impervious to a direct hit and Trump is stupidly shooting at everyone.

The only thing Donald Trump does is lie and/or do racist/sexist/xenophobic shyt. The only justification to support him is you have some hate in your heart for a group and are willing to suffer to see them suffer even right beside you.

Nobody is “winning”…. Even that bullshyt tax cut is a trap because once again it’s setting the table for a FDR president & it’s not going to keep up with inflation. 1% versus everybody sounds cool, but the rhetoric is getting more violent and we seen multiple mini revolts before.
When?
 

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I mean chaos is always an opportunity. I just don’t think you can grind it out until you know what bottom is. Even the grinders are going to take a hit. People are going to need luck, hard work, and God to come out better than they went in.
Yup, 100%.

People being passive right now are doing the absolute worst thing.

An enormous amount of effort right now will keep someone level or at least from sinking.

The thing is, that same kind of effort however when things are going good that will really pay off for someone.

So you get so much less for more work put in during this time. If you don’t put in that work though, you’ll sink.

People (Both Siders really) thought breaking the system will bring people to the same level, but fail to account that there are “goody two shoes” types who keep doing their homework and raising the ceiling and expectations. They don’t know any other gear.

These are the types that people fail to account for when they think they’ll level the playing field:


Mathematically, there’d always going to be a top and bottom when there’s competition.
 

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Occupy Wall Street, George Floyd protest, even Jan 6th. Even the stuff on these campuses are building up to another one. I wouldn’t call them just protest cause they were major cultural events and most protest are just cathartic for the people attending.
 

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Yup, 100%.

People being passive right now are doing the absolute worst thing.

An enormous amount of effort right now will keep someone level or at least from sinking.

The thing is, that same kind of effort however when things are going good that will really pay off for someone.

So you get so much less for more work put in during this time. If you don’t put in that work though, you’ll sink.

People (Both Siders really) thought breaking the system will bring people to the same level, but fail to account that there are “goody two shoes” types who keep doing their homework and raising the ceiling and expectations. They don’t know any other gear.

These are the types people fail to account for:

Exactly, now imagine if little Timmy household goes from two incomes to one or from one to none, or the trust fund was based on bonds?

No one is safe from catching a Trump stray. He isn’t governing he is fukking up. As more time goes on more people will catch strays.
 

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That’s the thing… the system is designed to help people who are lower class, and middle class. At a certain point it’s then designed to force you to find additional wealth through investments in either the market, a business, or property. It forces people to do capitalism.

It’s been about 100 days and Trump is legit breaking capitalism. He’s deporting cheap labor, firing white collar workers, cutting us off from foreign markets, and doing budget cuts on the government. The motherfukker crashed both the stock and bond market.

Those rich people are going to see the same shyt the poor is from these tariffs. Stagflation is already here. Rich people and Middle class people can insulate themselves better but no one is impervious to a direct hit and Trump is stupidly shooting at everyone.

The only thing Donald Trump does is lie and/or do racist/sexist/xenophobic shyt. The only justification to support him is you have some hate in your heart for a group and are willing to suffer to see them suffer even right beside you.

Nobody is “winning”…. Even that bullshyt tax cut is a trap because once again it’s setting the table for a FDR president & it’s not going to keep up with inflation. 1% versus everybody sounds cool, but the rhetoric is getting more violent and we seen multiple mini revolts before.
Yea that’s why I’m paying more attention to investments now. Being in healthcare, I can’t lie, even through covid, I was fine. Certain industries/fields are insulated from these tough moments. Trump is wreaking so much havoc that even ppl who are usually able to weather storms are going to feel this.
 
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