Threads like this make me lol -
OP -
LADIES, what do you think, feel, etc about XYZ?
BUNCH OF COLI DUDES - REPLYING...incorrectly in lots of instances.
Questions for anyone -
Do you believe in masculine & feminine energy? That women pursuing/approaching men (taking on masculine energy) would upset that balance between the Male & Female?
Many, many men think (ego) that being open & warm automatically means p-ssy on a platter (a male poster outright said so ITT). So, if women started approaching men what should she do to guide his interest to the mind/heart/soul that is attached to the vagina?
If men are natural born hunters/pursuers AND are afraid of rejection. Why are those very same men mocking women about being afraid of rejection?
Do you believe that rejection could be a good thing? That it isn't even about you in most cases?
Do you believe there's a reversal of roles between today's men & women? Has it improved relations between the sexes?
What was Grandmom & the elders really talking about when they said to little girls, "Don't be fast." "Don't be all up in these little boys faces." "Girls should be seen and not heard." Were they helping or hindering?
If a woman approached/pursued you, will she always have to be the one who initiates everything thereafter? You didn't have to put in any work initially so where will the incentive come from now? If you didn't have to earn it will you appreciate it?
Do you believe that it's a man's job to pursue and a woman's job to make her interest known or not (of course in a respectful manner)?
What about that biblical quote - 'He who findeth'
I am kin to/friends with/colleagues to various men - they all say they don't like women pushing up on them. Some said they ran away...after screwing first...
Could they all be wrong?
Oh, Libra
*cracks neck and adjusts glasses*
i) this site is 90-95% male you will never get a thread addressed to women that goes Play with all female responses.
1) There is masculine and feminine energy. The balance of the two has already been compromised by modern culture itself so micro-level interactions like this will reflect it. Even still, neither energies have to be manifested in a single way.
2) The heart/mind/soul vs vagina thing depends on the parties involved. The man who is more conventionally masculine, or specifically aggressive, will always put the vagina first because it's tangible and men are on Earth to deal with the tangible world. Guidance to those intangible places are just lip service till access to the tangible place (purrrrrrr, kitty kitty) is given.
Shy men may take the intangible places more serious because they are going to take more time to make
the move for what they want, but even they (we) have a limit. Some women may not have much to offer in the heart/mind/soul categories. Then what's next?
3) Men are more afraid of embarrassment than rejection. Telling me no is as fair as fair gets, but the reticence comes from the idea of a woman making sure to make me feel small while saying no. And the last decade has seen a boost of women trying to make themselves feel big often at the expense of trying to make men small, whether directly or indirectly.
Men who are mocking women's fear of rejection do so because we've been told were equal and women can do everything men can do, until they're asked to walk the walk in the realm of intergender attraction and actually dealing with the opposite sex one-on-one.
4) Gender roles have been warped, not reversed because for a reversal women would have to fully accept it. Right now women want to be men on a surface level but be feminine beneath that expect men (who deal with surface levels first as agents of the tangible world) to either be psychic and see through it or hypermasculine enough to force the femininity to the surface, neither of which bodes well since both casts a very narrow net and the second option typically is from a man who often doesn't respect women that much and/or is shared by more than one woman and will likely never stop himself from being shared.
Gender relations are shyt right now because one gender is obligated to stick to a code of conduct from 60-100 years ago while the other is allowed to "do what they feel". So men don't know how conventionally masculine we need to be because we're taught that it's counterpart, conventional femininity, is obsolete.
5) The elders were helping as best as they could but there a difference between "being fast" and knowing how to interact with a man that you're attracted to, but that comes with maturity and is not the role of grandparent-level elders but moreso parents and better yet older cousins and fairly young aunts (10-20 years older) because they are have modern day experience. Older male cousins and uncles who are good men can/should also provide insight on how men think.
6) If a woman pursued me, it is not her job to initiate everything moving forward, nor will it happen because her level of proactivity will be refreshing and spark a mutual level of initiation. This eliminates waiting games and the concept of "thirst".
7) In terms of attempting to get closer, it's no one's job to really do anything, not with the way gender roles are today. But nature tends to lead, and women should be able to effectively signal interest levels, while men should be able to effectively read them. I cannot pursue something that isn't available to be obtained. I believe this has lost through the thread because OP titled it "Approaching WITHOUT approaching" due to the fact he knows women are not naturally inclined to pursue in the same manner as men. But if women want "good men" they cannot stroll around town with a cold demeanor and expect God-fearing, high-earning, streetsmart, good pipe, one-woman Idris Elba (or any other concept of a perfect male) to decide to talk to her anyway.
8) The ego you said leads to believe openness and warm is p*ssy on a platter is the same ego that has the men you know not particularly caring for aggressive women. They likely have an abundance of female company/p*ssy (the Hypermasculine Harem Holder from Section 4) and seek challenges. 80% of us do not have an abundance and cannot afford to go through our young and prime adulthood looking for challenges.
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I feel like talking louder on the phone is obnoxious and more of a turn off, than anything else.
