Lakeith Stanfield With A Message About Gangster Rap

Bar Razor

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I'll just quote what I said in another post:

It's really cognitive dissonance. I've loved hip hop for 30 years, performed it know its history. I can't front that I haven't enjoyed criminal related rap because there are a lot of artists that are good at what the fundamentals of good hip hop are - lyrics, flow, cadence, etc regardless of subject matter. However, I've never felt fully comfortable with it and as time has gone on I listen to it less and less, and never listen to any new crime related rappers.

People do the "entertainment" thing to gloss over the fact that violent "kill n!kka" hip hop has become the most consumed genre of music in the WORLD. Let's say I believe it has absolutely zero effect on the community (false). What is it that's so damned ENTERTAINING about song after song group after group spitting genocide music? What is it about it that's so enjoyable, given the conditions in black communities? They don't get how they've been conditioned to enjoy tales of black trauma. I've mentioned this before but one of the pioneers of hip hip Melle Mel (who is from the South Bronx, and at a time where it was the worst area in the country) said that rappers were trying to be beyond that, and that the corner boys didn't rap. He comes from a self described "war zone".

Then it became this corporate money making vehicle to the white suburbs and that's when gangsta rap became the dominant force in the genre, and it's never recovered. It became about using black trauma to profit. That alone should be reason enough to at least pause, but this is a dysfunctional society with dysfunctional patterns of thought.

Rappers hardly got killed in the 80s. Biggie and Tupac was a shock because it was a rarity even in the 90s with the rise of gangster rap. fast forward to today and it's expected for rappers to get killed. This has a direct correlation to the "gangsterization" of the music and the admission of straight up criminals into the music as opposed to those that just wanted to be a MC. It's not a coincidence.

I got tired of listening to song after song after song about black men killing black men under the guise of "entertainment". People don't even bat an eye about it and will use lame justifications like "it's like the movies!". No it isn't. Deniro isn't acting like his character from Goodfellas is the real him. Schwarzenegger isn't giving interviews as his Terminator character. Rappers whole thing is now "real" they are and how they really live this. And the violence around them bears that out. It's a cop out.

Somehow, we're so backwards that if you even question this to some, you're the problem instead of a corporate driven genre of music offering the glamorization of black death to the masses. Those white kids in the suburbs just LOOOOOVE rapping along to "kill n***" music.

Along with my father instilling knowledge, and an interest in learning, this is what influenced me:



Of course music influences kids. PE inspired me to want to learn more about history, politics, etc, and gave me a sense of pride in being part of this revolutionary genre of music. That pride faded long ago.
 
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Right. And if you say sum'n about it, da dysfunction of it all, folks will look at YOU as if you're da problem.

Even now, you got quite a few posters upset and tryna argue against da validity of anything he said in this very thread and tryna use piss poor comparisons and false equivalences as a means to justify how they feel like he's wrong.
 
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Btw I'm sick of dudes like this, brehs all quiet while thousands of black men get killed every year but because its someone rich and famous now we gotta reconsider. Nah we should have before, we should ostracized ignant ass music like every other race does, ostracize ignorance and violence and gluttony.

Agreed. And like clockwork, it'll all be forgotten about in about 2.5 weeks till it happens to someone else.
 

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21 Savage etc even call their guns the KKK :francis:


They know what they're saying.

Also he's got to be a poster/lurker on the coli :mjgrin:





This.

Because when most of what you hear and view is anti-Black content then you're going to be anti-Black. It's called mental conditioning and no one is stronger than it.

Also rap is part of a cultural agenda that elevates low class behavior and culture to a degree that no other group does. Because most groups elevate to an extremely high degree middle class or upper class culture. And laugh at and segregate low class behavior.


But in the Black community low class/ghetto culture becomes the face of Blackness. And not just in the US but around the world. Since the US has a massive culture impact.


And mental conditioning is why advertising is so power and why so many companies spend billions on it. Because when you view a product what you think of it has already been shaped by what you've been exposed to based on advertising.

Also this is why cac executives refuse to allow anti-white lyrics to be put into songs. They want Black people going after each other. Not them. :mjpls:
Thank you!

But they call you elitist or “bougie” when you point this out!
 

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This like saying you can't be for Italian Americans and watch the sopranos.

Gangsta rap is not as harmful to black people as law enforcement arrest quotas, private prisons, or the sheer number of guns and drugs available on the street.

Gangsta rap is simply a sound track for goons to ride out to. Before they were bumping Dr. Dre, they would've been bumping old school rock and roll or bebop jazz before they started blasting. The music isn't the issue, the incentives to commit crimes and the lack of alternatives are the issue.

You're going to have limited success telling a teenager to work hard at school when he personally knows someone who is making 10k a month moving product (be it guns, drugs, stolen/knockoff goods or all three). In a society that continuously shyts on men that aren't making big money and promotes wealth at any cost, youll have a hard time convincing him to graduate, go into debt and accept the daily humiliation of the corporate world for a fraction of the money that he sees local gangstas making in a fortnight. American culture is a culture that celebrates and pushes violence as a solution to problems, and the pursuit of obscene amounts of wealth. This is bigger than rap. It always has been and always will be.

America is a country founded on theft, aggression, and selfish individualism. Gangsta rap is one of the most American forms of music there is. It's the kind of thing that could only emerge in this kind of social context.
This boy spitting :ohlawd::whew:
 
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