Lamelo Ball will be the best PG in the league by 2024

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33 percent? He shot 29 percent first off. That’s Michael Carter Williams territory
His company really is between Ricky Rubio without defense and Shaun Livingston before injuries to me. Which is a fine point guard but his shooting doesn’t look good mechanically to me and his percentage/shot selection needs to be reigned in at least until he’s a 37% or better shooter. He takes Dame/Steph shots with MKG 3 point percentage.

the one thing I like is his passing.

I’m not saying he shot 33%, it was a hypothetical number.

He shot 34% from 3 at Spire on 205 attempts.

In the NBL he shots 25% but it was a small sample size.

The % is not as important because he’s a streaky shooter, which means he scores in bunches, he runs hot and cold. What is important is his unpredictability and floor spacing. He’s not gonna be Ben Simmons or young Rondo giving 10 feet of space to shoot.

Doncic is a career 32% 3PT on 8 attempts. His C&S %’s was horrible last season he was more effective off the step back. Nobody talks about Doncic %, the step back is unpredictable and it opens up his slashing and passing, it spaces the floor and makes life easier for teammates.

Also, unlike Doncic, LaMelo has good catch and shoot numbers.

 

[WMG the 2nd]

I’m not saying he shot 33%, it was a hypothetical number.

He shot 34% from 3 at Spire on 205 attempts.

In the NBL he shots 25% but it was a small sample size.

The % is not as important because he’s a streaky shooter, which means he scores in bunches, he runs hot and cold. What is important is his unpredictability and floor spacing. He’s not gonna be Ben Simmons or young Rondo giving 10 feet of space to shoot.

Doncic is a career 32% 3PT on 8 attempts. His C&S %’s was horrible last season he was more effective off the step back. Nobody talks about Doncic %, the step back is unpredictable and it opens up his slashing and passing, it spaces the floor and makes life easier for teammates.

Also, unlike Doncic, LaMelo has good catch and shoot numbers.

Wasn’t spire three years ago?
So he’s getting worst by that logic shooting wise. Also luka and lamelo shouldn’t even be in the same sentence at all.

 

[42 Monks]

I hope the Hornets never succeed in your lifetime

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[ISO]

Wasn’t spire three years ago?
So he’s getting worst by that logic shooting wise. Also luka and lamelo shouldn’t even be in the same sentence at all.

It was in 2018, it’s the biggest sample size we have.

NBL was only 12 games

He’s 19 his shot selection and shooting mechanics won’t be the same forever

His shot creation abilities, range, and confidence are the positives. He’s a threat to take and make those shots.

Actually read what the scouts saying...

• Catch-and-shoot percentages fare well, which may in part pull from developing consistency with his jump shot form. Has NBA 3-range. LaMelo is beginning to involve more of a knee bend and lower-body utility, which discourages mechanical deviation and assists in generating consistent rhythm

• Putting points on the board in bunches when was shot was falling last season, Ball showed signs of progress on the periemter even if his mechanics are still evolving. Though he played mostly on the ball, his development as a jump shooter was most apparent in spot up situations as he scored 1.138 points per catch and shoot jump shot in the half court [69th percentile] with a more promising stroke than the one he had when he rose to prominence in his mid-teens.

 

[Marc Spector]

You know damn well its the worst kept secret that Euros are more fundamentally sound as they play against grown men and for their national teams at a younger age

 

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It was in 2018, it’s the biggest sample size we have.

NBL was only 12 games

He’s 19 his shot selection and shooting mechanics won’t be the same forever

His shot creation abilities, range, and confidence are the positives. He’s a threat to take and make those shots.

Actually read what the scouts saying...

He will not blow by you with blinding speed, but his basketball IQ is so high he can maneuver around defenders using his wonderful sleight of hand, deft changes in speed and long and fluid strides. A wonderful athlete he can crash the boards great from the guard spot. With his great vertical leap and long arms, he will snatch rebounds out of midair only to glide up the court, flowing through defenders to eventually lay the ball into the hands of a teammate for an easy bucket after he’s looked off the any defenders. He still needs the aforementioned added size to his slender frame, which is expected to come with time. His outside jump shot is erratic at times and sometimes he is too unselfish to a fault.


Sounds a lot like the guy you keep hyping up and his volume of shots far exceeds the amount liv snd others that ilk had or chose to take. I don’t think you can just stop being a chucker unless he went to a team where it’s clear he isn’t allowed to show 20 shots a game and 7 threes with maybe 5 being bad shots for his percentage and form.

 

[Marc Spector]

To even mention LeBron with those names is disrespectful. LeBron is an elite shot creator for himself and others. Explain his takeover against Detroit in 2007 or 6 4Q fadeaways against Toronto in 2018.

U are also mentioning tall PG’s who can’t shoot at all like MCW and Simmons of course they struggle.

LaMelo can shoot and off the dribble and with range he’s just streaky. If I can compare him as a shooter he’s someone like Spencer Dinwiddie or Marcus Smart, even White Chocolate. High volume gunners with gravity.

Breh i fukks with Bron heavy but he does have weaknesses and thats one of them. Dont get me wrong, he's a goat level player so he can often generate in spite of his weakness, but his struggle when you cut him off in the paint is more apparent as he gets older.

And I'm not just naming those guys for my health, Lamelo is closer to the non shooting Tall PG skill set than not.

 

[ISO]

He will not blow by you with blinding speed, but his basketball IQ is so high he can maneuver around defenders using his wonderful sleight of hand, deft changes in speed and long and fluid strides. A wonderful athlete he can crash the boards great from the guard spot. With his great vertical leap and long arms, he will snatch rebounds out of midair only to glide up the court, flowing through defenders to eventually lay the ball into the hands of a teammate for an easy bucket after he’s looked off the any defenders. He still needs the aforementioned added size to his slender frame, which is expected to come with time. His outside jump shot is erratic at times and sometimes he is too unselfish to a fault.


Sounds a lot like the guy you keep hyping up and his volume of shots far exceeds the amount liv snd others that ilk had or chose to take. I don’t think you can just stop being a chucker unless he went to a team where it’s clear he isn’t allowed to show 20 shots a game and 7 threes with maybe 5 being bad shots for his percentage and form.

Yeah, except I never argued LaMelo was a great athlete. I’m addressing the revisionist history of Liv being this great athlete prior to injury because that’s the narrative. Liv’s knees robbed him of his athleticism which prevented him from reaching his potential. Nope, that injury occurred year 3 and he was never that athletic. U would think LaMelo was Kyle Anderson with the way he is described on here.

Liv could never take the shots LaMelo take. He wasn’t on that level as a shot creator.

 

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Yeah, except I never argued LaMelo was a great athlete. I’m addressing the revisionist history of Liv being this great athlete prior to injury because that’s the narrative. Liv’s knees robbed him of his athleticism which prevented him from reaching his potential. Nope, that injury occurred year 3 and he was never that athletic. U would think LaMelo was Kyle Anderson with the way he is described on here.

Liv could never take the shots LaMelo take. He wasn’t on that level as a shot creator.

Liv wasn’t catered to at every level in his short career
Lamelo literally has had a coalition trying to give him glorified aau showcases every where he went and when competition got better he got lesser
His one consistent attribute is his passing but his shooting easily is his weakness. If Ricky Rubio had young JR Smith shot selection, would you take him number one in the draft?

 

[ISO]

Liv wasn’t catered to at every level in his short career
Lamelo literally has had a coalition trying to give him glorified aau showcases every where he went and when competition got better he got lesser
His one consistent attribute is his passing but his shooting easily is his weakness. If Ricky Rubio had young JR Smith shot selection, would you take him number one in the draft?

Ricky Rubio would be a much better player if he had LaMelo’s shot creation ability and his guts.

U only look at %’s which is why you can’t see the value in gravity and how it opens up the floor.

Y’all be the same nikkas that want Ben Simmons to shoot.

What J.R. and LaMelo do is not something you can just assign to players that’s not Ricky game never has been

 

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Ricky Rubio would be a much better player if he had LaMelo’s shot creation ability and his guts.

U only look at %’s which is why you can’t see the value in gravity and how it opens up the floor.

Y’all be the same nikkas that want Ben Simmons to shoot.

What J.R. and LaMelo do is not something you can just assign to players that’s not Ricky game never has been

I don’t want Ben Simmons to be a shooter
But I do want Ben Simmons to shoot at least once or twice
Ben Simmons should be trying to be a better Draymond or blake Griffin as a point forward.

lamelo takes a few more shots than his form and stats show. His defense is awful but maybe that’s just effort. His passing is very good. To me, I don’t see him as a better point guard than any of the top tier guards drafted before him. He wouldn’t be a top 20 point guard his first year in the league which is what I’d want for a number one pick. He isn’t as athletic or dynamic as young John wall who also wasn’t much of a shooter but was a better passer than lamelo was at the same age coming to the nba.

 

[phillycavsfan]

Will Luka still be playing then? Because if he is there's no shot.

 

[Trot LaRoc]

Can he get to the rim and finish in the NBA?

If he doesnt develop a dependable shot, won't defenders just sag off him and cut off passing lanes?

If he was a crazy athlete like John Wall or , his lack of shooting wouldn't be so problematic

 

[WMG the 2nd]

Can he get to the rim and finish in the NBA?

If he doesnt develop a dependable shot, won't defenders just sag off him and cut off passing lanes?

If he was a crazy athlete like John Wall or , his lack of shooting wouldn't be so problematic

I think off the pick and roll he will be solid
But unless he’s being guarded by below average defenders or athletes i don’t see him dominating as a 6’7 point guard without quickness.

 

[ISO]

His defense is awful but maybe that’s just effort.

This is a myth he’s not Trae Young.