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Uno Venova
Your honor, I was merely capping.
with WATER?
Actually6Foot3
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yall fake woke militants are hilarious.im saying they should be inside for their own damn good and you want to bring up cops. lmao fukk the cops nikka
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Big Boda
My Family Are Not Immigrants.
im saying they should be inside for their own damn good and you want to bring up cops. lmao fukk the cops nikka
yeah just like i thought. now its "fukk them cops".
another back tracking c00n boy with no nuts. 
Grand Conde
Superstar
...so their death was not connected to them having COVID?
How many cops have BH ever killed.
How many BH been killed by cops so far...
We can guess which number higher.
Bunchy Carter
I'll Take The Money Over The Honey
Smart/dumb bullshyt....oh okay lol
Pneumonia exacerbates all these underlying issues issues and adds new things to the mix. If a person who is dying from HIV/AIDS and contracts Pneumonia and the patient dies, the Pneumonia is considered an Opportunistic infection. An Opportunistic infection is an infection caused by pathogens (bacteria, viruses, fungi, or protozoa) that take advantage of an opportunity not normally available, such as a host with a weakened immune system.
In the ICD-10 for the Death Certificate, which regulates the selection of the single underlying cause of death, the cause of death would not be Pneumonia, it would be HIV/AIDS. In accordance with the rules of the ICD-10, the single underlying cause of death is defined as “the disease or injury which initiated the train of morbid events leading directly to death, or the circumstances of the accident or violence which produced the fatal injury.”
Obtaining cause-of-death information for HIV/AIDS - Guidelines for HIV Mortality Measurement - NCBI Bookshelf
If that same person, who is dying from HIV/AIDS and contracts COVID-19 and the patient dies, the death is caused by COVID-19? No, that does not make any scientific sense. I hv a B.S. in Biology and I worked as a molecular biologist testing for hiv and genetic research for sometime. I do not have my MPH to be a epidemiologist.
No. If the patient does have underlying health conditions and the patient dies, it's not COVID-19 related, the death is contributed to their underlying health conditions. If you have food poisoning and you test negative for COVID-19 and you die from food poisoning, how is that connected to COVID-19.
If the patient does not have any underlying medical conditions, then the the death would be COVID-19 related. The COVID-19 initiated the train of morbid events leading directly to death, that is why you hear medical personal state COVID-19 deaths with underlying health conditions and COVID-19 deaths with no underlying health conditions.
Bunchy Carter
I'll Take The Money Over The Honey
ShenJingPoQi
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Its unbelievable how out of shape the modern policemen is. How can they enforce anything when they look that visibly sick? And how can a policewoman do anything? Those teenage would beat her down silly and into a coma. Now with this 3 month lockdown, it will get messy very quick.
Trot LaRoc
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There are many reports and sources that say these coronavirus deaths have nothing to do with coronavirus, they just label them as coronavirus deaths. There are doctors and nurses reporting that hospitals are labeling the deaths are coronavirus related and that is a lie and the hospitals are getting paid extra money to label these deaths as “covid-19 related.
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US Hospitals Getting Paid More to Label Cause of Death as ‘Coronavirus’
April 27, 2020
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April 15, 2020 / By Wayne Dupree
Senator Scott Jensen represents Minnesota. He’s also a doctor. He appeared on Fox News with Laura Ingram where he revealed a very disturbing piece of information.
Dr. Scott Jensen says the American Medical Association is now “encouraging” doctors to overcount coronavirus deaths across the country.
Jensen received a 7-page document that showed him how to fill out a death certificate as a “COVID-19 diagnosis” even when there isn’t a lab test confirming the diagnosis.
Very sus source breh
Bunchy Carter
I'll Take The Money Over The Honey
Very sus source breh
FACT CHECK
Fact check: Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators
Michelle Rogers
USA TODAY Network
"The Ingraham Angle" host Laura Ingraham on April 8 on Fox News and claimed hospitals get paid more if Medicare patients are listed as having COVID-19 and get three times as much money if they need a ventilator.
The claim was published April 9 by The Spectator, a conservative publication. WorldNetDaily shared it April 10 and, according to Snopes, a related meme was shared on social media in mid-April.
Jensen took it to his own Facebook page April 15, saying, in part:
"How can anyone not believe that increasing the number of COVID-19 deaths may create an avenue for states to receive a larger portion of federal dollars. Already some states are complaining that they are not getting enough of the CARES Act dollars because they are having significantly more proportional COVID-19 deaths."
higher Medicare allocation allowed under the Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act. Past practice, Jensen said, did not include probabilities.
He noted that some states, including his home state of Minnesota, as well as California, list only laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 diagnoses. Others, specifically New York, list all presumed cases, which is allowed under guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as of mid-April and which will result in a larger payout.
Jensen said he thinks the overall number of COVID-19 cases have been undercounted based on limitations in the number of tests available.
coronavirus relief legislation created a 20% premium, or add-on, for COVID-19 Medicare patients.
There have been no public reports that hospitals are exaggerating COVID-19 numbers to receive higher Medicare payments.
Jensen didn't explicitly make that claim. He simply suggested there is an "avenue" to do so now that "plausible" COVID-19, not just laboratory-confirmed, cases can be greenlighted for Medicare payment and eligible for the 20% add-on allowed under the relief act.
disbursed according to 2019 Medicare reimbursements.
The second wave will focus on providers in areas more heavily affected by the outbreak, according to Kaiser Health News, giving rise to Jensen's concern that hospitals could exploit the CDC's guidelines allowing presumed cases.
Jensen did not return an email request from USA TODAY for comment about his claim.
USA TODAY reached out to Marty Makary, a surgeon and professor of health policy and management at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, about the claim. Makary said in an email April 21 that "what Scott Jensen said sounds right to me."
Makary did not elaborate, answer additional questions or respond to a request for an interview.
USA TODAY reached out to the American Hospital Association and Federation of American Hospitals on April 22, but as of publication had not received a response.
How does Medicare pay?
Snopes investigated the claim, finding it's plausible Medicare pays in the range Jensen mentions but doesn't have a "one-size-fits-all" payment to hospitals for COVID-19 patients.
As explained by nurse Elizabeth Davis in her piece for verywellhealth.com, each hospital has a base payment rate assigned by Medicare. It takes into account nationwide and regional trends, including labor costs and varying health care resources in each market.
Then, each diagnosis-related group, which classifies various diagnoses into groups and subgroups, is assigned a weight based on the average amount of resources it takes to care for a patient. Those figures are multiplied to determine the payment from Medicare. A hospital in one city and state may be paid more or less for treating a patient than a hospital in another.
PolitiFact reporter Tom Kertscher wrote, "The dollar amounts Jensen cited are roughly what we found in an analysis published April 7 by the Kaiser Family Foundation, a leading source of health information."
Fact check: Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators
April 21: "The figures cited by Jensen generally square with estimated Medicare payments for COVID-19 hospitalizations, based on average Medicare payments for patients with similar diagnoses."
Ask FactCheck reporter Angelo Fichera, who interviewed Jensen, noted, "Jensen said he did not think that hospitals were intentionally misclassifying cases for financial reasons. But that’s how his comments have been widely interpreted and paraded on social media."
Ask FactCheck's conclusion: "Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting."
Julie Aultman, a member of the editorial board of the American Medical Association’s Journal of Ethics, told PolitiFact it is “very unlikely that physicians or hospitals will falsify data or be motivated by money to do so.”
Our ruling: True
We rate the claim that hospitals get paid more if patients are listed as COVID-19 and on ventilators as TRUE.
Hospitals and doctors do get paid more for Medicare patients diagnosed with COVID-19 or if it's considered presumed they have COVID-19 absent a laboratory-confirmed test, and three times more if the patients are placed on a ventilator to cover the cost of care and loss of business resulting from a shift in focus to treat COVID-19 cases.
This higher allocation of funds has been made possible under the Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act through a Medicare 20% add-on to its regular payment for COVID-19 patients, as verified by USA TODAY through the American Hospital Association Special Bulletin on the topic.
Our fact-check sources
- The Spectator: "Hospitals get more to list patients as COVID-19 and three times as much if the patient goes on ventilator"
- The World Net Daily: "Hospitals get paid more to list patients as COVID-19"
- Snopes: "Is Medicare paying hospitals $13K for patients diagnosed with COVID-19, $39K for those on ventilators
- PolitiFact: "Hospitals get paid more to list patients as COVID-19"
- Kaiser Health News: "Estimated cost for treating the uninsured hospitalized with COVID-19"
- Factcheck.org: "Hospital Payments and the COVID-19 Death Count"
- Coronavirus Aid, Relief and Economic Security Act
- U.S. Department of Health and Human Services: "Guidance for Certifying Death Due to COVID-19"
- Verywellhealth.com: "How a DRG determines how much a hospital gets paid"
- American Hospital Association Special Bulletin
- American Hospital Association special bulletin.
- Email response from Marty Makary, a surgeon and professor of health policy and management at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.
via: Fact check: Medicare pays hospitals more money for COVID-19 patients
Actually6Foot3
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Low Quality Posting
yeah just like i thought. now its "fukk them cops".
yes brotha big boda...yous a kang! put me in my place 
Big Boda
My Family Are Not Immigrants.
most definitely white.
@General Mills come get ya boy you dapped em on first page
Actually6Foot3
Veteran
lmfao coli 101. when you have nothing else..call em white.
okay kang