LAPD Tries To Enforce Social Distancing In Nickerson Gardens Housing Projects....Hilarity Ensues..

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very interesting choice of words :mjpls:


you white trolls always expose yourselves eventually
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dude you are speaking beyond your scope. If said person with HIV didn’t get covid 19 would he have died as soon? If not then the death was caused by covid 19. What is it so hard to understand? The acceleration of death is due to covid 19 what is it you don’t get :mindblown: FYI I am in the medical field in Long Island, NY on the front lines, and not some arm chair QB who is a non essential laborer...

If a person who is dying from HIV/AIDS and catches COVID-19 and dies, COVID-19 is not the cause, because COVID-19 is considered an Opportunistic infection. An Opportunistic infection is an infection caused by pathogens (bacteria, viruses, fungi, or protozoa) that take advantage of an opportunity not normally available, such as a host with a weakened immune system.

How are you in the medical field and do not know what an Opportunistic infection is, that does not make any sense.

In accordance with the rules of the ICD-10, the single underlying cause of death is defined as “the disease or injury which initiated the train of morbid events leading directly to death, or the circumstances of the accident or violence which produced the fatal injury.” HIV/AIDS is the disease or the underlying issue, which cause the patient's health to decline and lead to direct death. Even without contracting COVID-19, the patient would have died from HIV/AIDS.

How are you in the medical field and do not know what an ICD-10 is, that does not make any sense?

If a person is driving a car and suffers from a heart attack and dies, but he crashes into a 18 wheeler, in which he is decapitated. Your not going to say, he died because he was decapitated, he died flbecause he had a fatal heart attack.

If a person who does not have any underlying health conditions and develops COVID-19 and dies, well yes the death is related to COVID-19.

Also, I am an essential worker lol, also my lady is a RN and was a RN in the Air Force.
 

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What do you think is causing all the extra deaths in the US if not COVID-19?
U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Data Suggests


You keep quoting me and tagging me, looking for a response to go back an forth. The answer to you question is in the article, you apparently did not read, you just read the misleading title:

U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Data Suggests
By Josh Katz, Denise Lu and Margot Sanger-KatzApril 28, 2020

It’s difficult to know whether the differences between excess deaths and the official counts of coronavirus deaths reflect an undercounting of coronavirus deaths or a surge in deaths from other causes. It’s likely a mix of both.

That paragraph is self explanatory.

New York City recently revised its own statistics for the number of coronavirus-related fatalities, saying thousands of additional deaths were probably because of Covid-19, even though no tests had been conducted.

How are these COVID-19 deaths, but there was not scientific test done to prove the patient died from COVID-19....You just proved what I was saying, that these coronavirus numbers are miss leading, because they are not conducting test, they are just counting the deaths as COVID-19 related.

There is also increasing evidence that stresses on the health care system and fears about catching the disease have caused some Americans to die from ailments that are typically treatable. A recent draft paper found that hospital admissions for a major type of heart attack fell by 38 percent in nine major U.S. hospitals in March. In a normal year, cardiovascular disease is the country’s leading cause of death.

So....there is evidence that is saying people are dying from cardiovascular disease at home, because in a normal year, cardiovascular disease is the country's leading cause of death according to the article. The article also states that the patients dying at home, because they do not want to go to the hospital because of fear of catching COVID-19.

According to article you did not read, the cause of extra deaths is related to people dying from cardiovascular disease.

via: U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Data Suggests
 
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After seeing how these cacs acted in the Michigan State House I'm not trying to cosign any police action to enforce social distancing on black folks. FOH. The silver lining in this whole thing is that this crisis has highlighted the disparities and injustices in this "Greatest country in the world" a lot more in the past 10 or 20 years before. Not that it wasn't obvious before, but after what we are seeing happen here, if you still don't see the cracks in the system and our place in it, you're lost.

I think black folks should practice social distancing for their own sakes and on their own accord but until the police starts enforcing it on cacs like they seem to do on black folks, I'm not stressing or judging black folks as harshly for it.
 

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You keep quoting me and tagging me, looking for a response to go back an forth. The answer to you question is in the article, you apparently did not read, you just read the misleading title:

U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Data Suggests
By Josh Katz, Denise Lu and Margot Sanger-KatzApril 28, 2020



That paragraph is self explanatory.



How are these COVID-19 deaths, but there was not scientific test done to prove the patient died from COVID-19....You just proved what I was saying, that these coronavirus numbers are miss leading, because they are not conducting test, they are just counting the deaths as COVID-19 related.



So....there is evidence that is saying people are dying from cardiovascular disease at home, because in a normal year, cardiovascular disease is the country's leading cause of death according to the article. The article also states that the patients dying at home, because they do not want to go to the hospital because of fear of catching COVID-19.

According to article you did not read, the cause of extra deaths is related to people dying from cardiovascular disease.

via: U.S. Coronavirus Death Toll Is Far Higher Than Reported, C.D.C. Data Suggests
No need for hostility. That being said, I did read the article. It’s clear to me that you’ve fundamentally misunderstood the article.

let’s focus on NYC. From March 8 to April 11, there were 11,900 more deaths than compared to the average number of deaths for that time period over the past 5 years. 10,261 of those deaths have been reported as COVID-19 deaths. That means that there is roughly 1600 more deaths than normal when compared to the average over the past five years, that were not reported as COVID-19 deaths. The natural assumption is that the number of COVID-19 deaths has been underreported. The article posits that it’s more likely a mixture of an under counting of deaths directly related to COVID-19 and deaths indirectly related to COVID-19. Preventable deaths that occurred because people were either unable to get medical care because of hospitals not having room due to COVID-19 or because people were too afraid of COVID-19 to seek medical care. All of these deaths (including the increase in preventable deaths from cardiovascular disease) were caused indirectly by COVID-19.

Measuring total deaths is apparently common in these types of situations to get an idea of the true measure of the devastation.

Measures of total deaths are also commonly used in countries without detailed accounting of causes of death. Right now, they are the most useful tool, several epidemiologists said, for measuring the impact of coronavirus in the United States, too.
 

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No need for hostility. That being said, I did read the article. It’s clear to me that you’ve fundamentally misunderstood the article.

let’s focus on NYC. From March 8 to April 11, there were 11,900 more deaths than compared to the average number of deaths for that time period over the past 5 years. 10,261 of those deaths have been reported as COVID-19 deaths. That means that there is roughly 1600 more deaths than normal when compared to the average over the past five years, that were not reported as COVID-19 deaths. The natural assumption is that the number of COVID-19 deaths has been underreported. The article posits that it’s more likely a mixture of an under counting of deaths directly related to COVID-19 and deaths indirectly related to COVID-19. Preventable deaths that occurred because people were either unable to get medical care because of hospitals not having room due to COVID-19 or because people were too afraid of COVID-19 to seek medical care. All of these deaths (including the increase in preventable deaths from cardiovascular disease) were caused indirectly by COVID-19.

Measuring total deaths is apparently common in these types of situations to get an idea of the true measure of the devastation.

Measures of total deaths are also commonly used in countries without detailed accounting of causes of death. Right now, they are the most useful tool, several epidemiologists said, for measuring the impact of coronavirus in the United States, too.

Your repeating everything I posted and typed before, including links I posed in this whole thread. So, for 2 days you were getting my attention to tell me the same thing I have been saying before in this whole thread. Also like I posted before in this thread, a death that is indirectly caused by a infection is called an Opportunistic infection/illness. AnOpportunistic infection is an infection caused by pathogens (bacteria, viruses, fungi, or protozoa) that take advantage of an opportunity not normally available, such as a host with a weakened immune system.

I was correct when I said, you were looking for a response to go back an forth

Pneumonia exacerbates all these underlying issues issues and adds new things to the mix. If a person who is dying from HIV/AIDS and contracts Pneumonia and the patient dies, the Pneumonia is considered an Opportunistic infection. An Opportunistic infection is an infection caused by pathogens (bacteria, viruses, fungi, or protozoa) that take advantage of an opportunity not normally available, such as a host with a weakened immune system.
 

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there were pics of cacs protesting in cali and not social distancing...didn’t see one cop in sight...let them go police them muthafukkas
 
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