Last Week Tonight: Obamacare

[DEAD7]

What they gonna replace it with though? McConnell , Ryan and all the rest of these republican dumbasses don't even have a replacement. They the ones that don't got a pulse on this country when they duck and hide from their constituents at town hall meetings.

What do you replace cancer with when you cure it?
I think your just glad its gone and that's it.











I'm curious as to how its all gonna play out myself... I just know Obamacare needed to go.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

What do you replace cancer with when you cure it?
I think your just glad its gone and that's it.











I'm curious as to how its all gonna play out myself... I just know Obamacare needed to go.

I'm curious to know what are your gripes with it?

And just so you know certain cancers come back stronger after they are cured.

 

[DEAD7]

I'm curious to know what are your gripes with it?

And just so you know certain cancers come back stronger after they are cured.

True...











1. The ACA suffered from the "progressive" notion that people who fail to purchase private-sector insurance coverage are guilty of a moral lapse.
2. It relied on market forces, in a complex heavily regulated market... I believe the count is now 15 of the 23 co-ops set up have failed? not sure on that though. To the joy of insurers who have merged instead of competing to eat off of the state...
3. The whole idea of forcing young healthy people to buy insurance they dont need and/or cant afford to help cover the cost of the elderly/sick is just :scust to me personally
4. The Cadillac tax :scust
5. With the cost of premiums increasing the only arguments for it have become pure emotion :scust
6. You had to register before seeing the prices :laff that shyt always bothered me a lot too :laff the only reason you would hide the prices is cause they are :scust
7. The penalties for not having insurance could never stay low... if insurance cost $4000 a year and the penalty is $500 a huge number of people will just pay the penalty... and with more people entering the healthcare system whats gonna have to happen to that penalty to keep up with rising cost?:usure It was a con from the start
8. The mandate :scust
9. The entire idea of having healthcare attached to your job seems silly to me
10. The mandate
11. I oppose state solutions, cause they either dont work or lead to more state solutions with no mention of the previous failed solutions
12. The mandate
13. It undermined the whole idea of insurance :scust
14. It prevented competition across state lines allowing insurance companies to continue
15. The mandate
16. The ridiculous restriction on gender bias :scust
17. The mandate
18. I never believed it wa smeant to help anyone, i felt like it was meant to further destroy american healthcare and pave way for single payer :scust
19. The mandate
20. The mandate



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[General Mills]

True...











1. The ACA suffered from the "progressive" notion that people who fail to purchase private-sector insurance coverage are guilty of a moral lapse.
2. It relied on market forces, in a complex heavily regulated market... I believe the count is now 15 of the 23 co-ops set up have failed? not sure on that though. To the joy of insurers who have merged instead of competing to eat off of the state...
3. The whole idea of forcing young healthy people to buy insurance they dont need and/or cant afford to help cover the cost of the elderly/sick is just :scust to me personally
4. The Cadillac tax :scust
5. With the cost of premiums increasing the only arguments for it have become pure emotion :scust
6. You had to register before seeing the prices :laff that shyt always bothered me a lot too :laff the only reason you would hide the prices is cause they are :scust
7. The penalties for not having insurance could never stay low... if insurance cost $4000 a year and the penalty is $500 a huge number of people will just pay the penalty... and with more people entering the healthcare system whats gonna have to happen to that penalty to keep up with rising cost?:usure It was a con from the start
8. The mandate :scust
9. The entire idea of having healthcare attached to your job seems silly to me
10. The mandate
11. I oppose state solutions, cause they either dont work or lead to more state solutions with no mention of the previous failed solutions
12. The mandate
13. It undermined the whole idea of insurance :scust
14. It prevented competition across state lines allowing insurance companies to continue
15. The mandate
16. The ridiculous restriction on gender bias :scust
17. The mandate
18. I never believed it wa smeant to help anyone, i felt like it was meant to further destroy american healthcare and pave way for single payer :scust
19. The mandate
20. The mandate



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plus rep

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

True...











1. The ACA suffered from the "progressive" notion that people who fail to purchase private-sector insurance coverage are guilty of a moral lapse.
2. It relied on market forces, in a complex heavily regulated market... I believe the count is now 15 of the 23 co-ops set up have failed? not sure on that though. To the joy of insurers who have merged instead of competing to eat off of the state...
3. The whole idea of forcing young healthy people to buy insurance they dont need and/or cant afford to help cover the cost of the elderly/sick is just :scust to me personally
4. The Cadillac tax :scust
5. With the cost of premiums increasing the only arguments for it have become pure emotion :scust
6. You had to register before seeing the prices :laff that shyt always bothered me a lot too :laff the only reason you would hide the prices is cause they are :scust
7. The penalties for not having insurance could never stay low... if insurance cost $4000 a year and the penalty is $500 a huge number of people will just pay the penalty... and with more people entering the healthcare system whats gonna have to happen to that penalty to keep up with rising cost?:usure It was a con from the start
8. The mandate :scust
9. The entire idea of having healthcare attached to your job seems silly to me
10. The mandate
11. I oppose state solutions, cause they either dont work or lead to more state solutions with no mention of the previous failed solutions
12. The mandate
13. It undermined the whole idea of insurance :scust
14. It prevented competition across state lines allowing insurance companies to continue
15. The mandate
16. The ridiculous restriction on gender bias :scust
17. The mandate
18. I never believed it wa smeant to help anyone, i felt like it was meant to further destroy american healthcare and pave way for single payer :scust
19. The mandate
20. The mandate



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So basically you're against the mandate.

 

[Scholar]

@ the left

Anyone with any kind of finger on the pule of this country knew the GoP was gonna dismantle Obamacare first chance they got guaranteed.




Pass horrible legislation and get surprised when its bushed brehs
Expect appeals to emotion to sustain your horrible legislation brehs
Launch personal attacks at anyone opposed to Obamacare because its indefensible brehs

What alternatives to ACA do you support?

Edit: premiums have gone up slower with ACA in place than they would have without it

 

[Regular_P]

It's been clear as day Republicans are clueless on how to actually govern. They've been whining about this for 7-8 years and they have nothing in place to replace it with. It should be their undoing, but their constituents are such neanderthals, that they'll still get re-elected. What a country.

 

[acri1]

I'm starting to get legit disgusted that so many of my fellow countrymen are selfish a$$holes with no empathy for any group they think they're better than.

 

[Rout3r2035]

@ the left

Anyone with any kind of finger on the pule of this country knew the GoP was gonna dismantle Obamacare first chance they got guaranteed.




Pass horrible legislation and get surprised when its bushed brehs
Expect appeals to emotion to sustain your horrible legislation brehs
Launch personal attacks at anyone opposed to Obamacare because its indefensible brehs

Right, because it's definitely more indefensible than a plan that's somewhere between "fukk all" and "letting 50,000 people die every year of treatable causes because they don't have insurance". fukk off in the worst way

 

[DEAD7]

I'm starting to get legit disgusted that so many of my fellow countrymen are selfish a$$holes with no empathy for any group they think they're better than.

Right, because it's definitely more indefensible than a plan that's somewhere between "fukk all" and "letting 50,000 people die every year of treatable causes because they don't have insurance". fukk off in the worst way

Expect appeals to emotion to sustain your horrible legislation brehs
Launch personal attacks at anyone opposed to Obamacare because its indefensible brehs

 

[DEAD7]

It's been clear as day Republicans are clueless on how to actually govern. They've been whining about this for 7-8 years and they have nothing in place to replace it with. It should be their undoing, but their constituents are such neanderthals, that they'll still get re-elected. What a country.

So liberals force a monstrous unsustainable bill through, and now conservatives who are ideologically opposed to the whole idea "dont know how to govern" because they cannot come up with a comparable replacement?








Politics!

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

It's been clear as day Republicans are clueless on how to actually govern. They've been whining about this for 7-8 years and they have nothing in place to replace it with. It should be their undoing, but their constituents are such neanderthals, that they'll still get re-elected. What a country.

Meh they probably have something in place they're just waiting for a time to reveal it to minimize blow back

 

[acri1]

No, it's a fact, not emotion or opinion that people (including children) die due to lack of health insurance, and that Obamacare has saved lives due to increasing the number of people insured.

But I never hear anybody (especially on the right) talking about what to do about people not having insurance or people who will lose insurance. It's always "my premiums might go up to pay for somebody who doesn't 'deserve' to have insurance". From a personal standpoint, my mother works part time and has insurance through the ACA, and she got cancer a few years ago that she was able to get screening/treatment for as a result. I'm not sure what would've happened otherwise but even in the best case it'd be massive debt. So this lack of empathy for "lazy" people who don't have private insurance irks me.

 

[Rout3r2035]

No shortbus, what I did was objectively outline your position. You have no alternative, and in the interim 50,000 people die because you hate something more than you hate nothing. I didn't castigate or insult you or call you an unfeeling sociopath (though that is in fact true as well), you just projected because deep down you know your position is irrational, it's why you subconsciously use terms like "indefensible" to refer to ACA.

 

[acri1]

No shortbus, what I did was objectively outline your position. You have no alternative, and in the interim 50,000 people die because you hate something more than you hate nothing. I didn't castigate or insult you or call you an unfeeling sociopath (though that is in fact true as well), you just projected because deep down you know your position is irrational, it's why you subconsciously use terms like "indefensible" to refer to ACA.