Lavar Ball Under Fire For Response To Kyrie Irving

[MeachTheMonster]

wtf is the angle? what did I say that was wrong.. please tell me

Lavar was just innocently talking about family dynamics, while Kyrie was telling him how to raise his son.

Neither which is true. Just an angle y'all made up to defend this dude.

Like Anderson cooper told a trump supporter.

Lavar could shyt on the scorers table, and you clowns would be like "y'all just never seen a strong black man shyt in public before"

 

[23Barrettcity]

he made an analogy about superstars children being athletes and living up to the hype.. that was it

meanwhile kyrie irving told him how to parent his son..

he brought brons sons names up specifically! He could of just said that point without bringing up other people's kids . I don't care what point he was making .
Kyries quote was the truth as in lavar isn't going to be able to be Zo everywhere so he's going to have to be his own man .
He also said in the quote he is a dad . Lavar decided to try and take a shot and say he's not a dad and bring up kyries mom . Lavar himself said he never feels sorry about what he says since he thinks about everything. So I'm gonna say he was trying to take shots at kyrie not having his mom in his life . Again stop making excuses for a guy who didn't ask for your
24739410, member: 870"]I don't remember that part at all, feel free to point that/post up receipts and I'll concede that point while acknowledging that it's probably true nor does it have anything to do with Kyrie's comments.[/QUOTE]
How the fukk are you giving this guy so many passes?
Lavar : "You got LeBron, it’s gonna be so hard for his kids, cause they gonna look at them like ‘you gotta be just like your dad.’ And after a while that pressure starts sitting on you like ‘why do I gotta be like him, why can’t I just be me?’ And then they’re gonna be like ‘aw, you’re soft, you’re not that good.’ Because the expectation is very, very high.”

My sons are good, they’re great,” Ball said. “But let’s say I really excelled in football and made millions of millions of dollars. Do I spent that time with them now? — No, I have to worry about the offseason and I just buy you a trainer and hope that you turn out okay. Whereas the fact that I wasn’t all that, allows me to take the time to make my boys all that.”
Ok you have your proof that's he's an idiot .

 

[DPresidential]

I mean on an elementary level: Even capturing 2% of a billion dollar market gets you what?

Big picture, at least from where I'm sitting is, more people begin to follow suit, Nike execs confirm their fears...the Lavar Ball phenomenon is indicative of what's happening with the world at large. Rebelling against institutions whither it be media or merchandise.

So apparently Lavar Ball is the Bernie Sanders of Sports Industry?

Side Note: 2% of a billion dollars is $20 million.

Side- side note: Lavar does not want the current structure destroyed, he wants to be just as part of the status quo as any other nikka who only sees green.

Side of the Side -side note: If more people follow suit, what you'll have is higher production costs since material wouldn't be purchased in bulk, which is bad for Lavar Ball, and so much competition that prices would be lower for the consumer, good for us.

The sneaker industry would turn into the text book "the most successful survive" and when the dust clears, you'll see the Nike's on top.

Now, I'm not mad at the business venture. However, he's a slimey fukking dude, stop placing the Breh on a pedestal.

 

[OsO]

Did you even watch the video where Lavar was interviewed?

He didn't say shyt about Kyrie's mother.
A lot of yall out here yapping and don't even know the fukking context of how the shyt went down.

Who raised you?

"First of all your mom wasn't there."

"Alonzo can come home and see his mom and dad all the time."

Did YOU listen to the interview?

 

[SpacelySprockets]

Lavar was just innocently talking about family dynamics, while Kyrie was telling him how to raise his son.

Neither which is true. Just an angle y'all made up to defend this dude.

Like Anderson cooper told a trump supporter.

Lavar could shyt on the scorers table, and you clowns would be like "y'all just never seen a strong black man shyt in public before"

How the fukk is that an angle? It's a fact.. the quote is literally posted in this thread. He said there is going to be more pressure on a superstars son to live up to the hype behind as opposed to somebody who's father wasn't a superstar. He used Brons kids as an example saying they may face similar pressure, did he say theyre going to suck? Did he criticize or disrespect them? Did he call Lebron a shytty father? Please point out the quote in which he does that

Did Kyrie not tell him how to deal with his son?

I dont even know why im debating with somebody in the hall of shame..

he brought brons sons names up specifically! He could of just said that point without bringing up other people's kids . I don't care what point he was making .

the point was still made and there was no disrespect behind it so foh

Kyries quote was the truth as in lavar isn't going to be able to be Zo everywhere so he's going to have to be his own man .

"I’m sorry, LaVar, you’re not going to be in every hotel room that Lonzo is going to be in," Kyrie said as a guest on Uninterrupted's "Road Trippin'" podcast hosted by Cleveland Cavaliers veterans Richard Jefferson and Channing Frye. "You’re not going to be everywhere and part of his life as he continues to grow up. You got to let go. He’s 19-years old. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want it to bypass him being a father, but he’s got to let Lonzo be Lonzo for the long haul."

Sounds like telling someone how to father their own sons and making the assumption that he isn't already letting him be his own man to me

 

[SunZoo]

What part about this approach mirrors the last time a draw outside of Nike was successful for a family legacy based ball player.

Lemme answer that for you,..none of it.

As real talk,...
Either you use Michael Jordan'a model of success.
or you use grant hill's model of success. Of which, grant hill's dad and Mrs hill grant hill's mom are taken industry wise as the most astute well mannered pc people in the room.
Especially mrs hill and mr hill is a former professional athlete. Of which on two sectors lavar ball fails as he is not dignified like mr. Hill. Nor is he as astute as mrs hill. Of which both had commentary just recently on the jump that illustrated the level of intelligence of the hill clan. Plus the fact, grant hill in the Jordan model could follow mj at Micky d's and a successful shoe line at fila.
All because grant was apart of the same PC movement mj adhered too.

In this lavar ball has not realized .
How being PC is integral to your success as an upstart and as the main flagship in its development stages as well in the performance shoe apparel line business.
That is how inept lavar ball is in this.
As he has not even recognized, identified, and never studied the model of success via market research and emulated them.

I disagree with all of that on the basis that he's not trying to do what Grant or Cheese eyes did. I had Grant Hills, they were successful but they were just another shoe owned by a white company.

In order for him to come in and be disruptive rather than just picking one of the established companies to work for with he's going to have to make some noise. He can't just come in and be like hey hi guys, here's my shoe, me and my family are going to 'compete' with Nike for a small percentage of the shoe market, can you help me out?



Nah...like I said, if he wanted his son to come in the league and be Kyrie Irving that would be the lick, but it's not. That's why the marketing is different, it's why the price is different...it's why being PC probably wouldn't be the route to go with an American public that just put the Orange Skull in office.

I mean we could stop time right now...at worst the Ball saga () is probably the most exciting thing about this NBA season besides

At best, Lonzo isn't a bust, BBB flourishes and other NBA talents begin to recognize their true value. It's all a gamble, seems like some nikkas want Lavar to bet against himself.

 

[Remote]

"First of all your mom wasn't there."

"Alonzo can come home and see his mom and dad all the time."

Did YOU listen to the interview?

It's a factual statement.
It's not disrespectful just because she passed away.

Stop being such a sensitive baby.

 

[SunZoo]

You're looking too deep into this. Notoriety does not equal sales, especially in fashion. Period. Nike isn't scared of ball

Then why release a statement? I mean is he really that annoying? Like ole boy be on twitter letting random people who aren't looking to compete with his company have it? Maybe that's his steeze, I dunno. But nowhere in that post did I say anything about notoriety equaling sales...I said capturing a small percentage of a huge money market is good strategy to have. You saying you disagree with that? Maybe you aren't looking into it deep enough.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

How the fukk is that an angle? It's a fact.. the quote is literally posted in this thread. He said there is going to be more pressure on a superstars son to live up to the hype behind is as opposed to somebody who's father wasn't a superstar. He used Brons kids as an example saying they may face similar pressure, did he say theyre going to suck? Did he criticize or disrespect them? Did he call Lebron a shytty father? Please point out the quote in which he does that

Did Kyrie call him a shytty father?

If you are gonna paint one as an innocent observation, then the other fits that bill as well.

The "angle" is you trying to paint lavars as an innocent comment, while trying to paint Kyries as some nefarious boundary overstepping directive.

It's a factual statement.
It's not disrespectful just because she passed away.

Stop being such a sensitive baby.

so it's not disrespectful to say.

"You don't have a mom so you don't understand"

But it is disrespectful to say

"Eventually you gotta let your kid go"

The angles

 

[23Barrettcity]

I asked for receipts about him saying this or that player didn't spend enough time with their songs. You reply with a quote of him saying that being that he didn't go on to be a mega successful athlete, that he had more time to spend with his children. That's facts, that's FACTS and really about him and how his family experiences life.

But you followed that up with a bunch of whatever, you kinda proving my point, you're taking a perfectly reasonable, common sense statement and made it seem like he said something sacrilegious.

Are You trolling ??? It's not facts unless your conceding he's a shyttier dad then bron and curry who can be two of the best players in the world and great family men .

 

[Liquid]

Pretend lonzo is the first to not sign with Nike brehs.

Forsee lonzo being an all time great, while telling others not to worry about his career brehs




Match the intellectual prowess of a proven idiot brehs

The guy is not even worth responding to anymore

Either way good luck to Lavar Ball and trying to create a BBB empire, but he has a long way to go. He needs advisers on board ASAP.

 

[23Barrettcity]

Pretty much.

Folks just need to stop bringing up people's family though...that shyt'll get you kilt out here :iseeu:

He's the main one doing it !!

 

[SpacelySprockets]

Did Kyrie call him a shytty father?

If you are gonna paint one as an innocent observation, then the other fits that bill as well.

The "angle" is you trying to paint lavars as an innocent comment, while trying to paint Kyries as some nefarious boundary overstepping directive.

I never said Kyrie called him that he told him how to raise his kids, youre coming up with narratives in your own head, im stating facts.

Lavar never told anybody how to raise their kid.

 

[Zero]

He's the main one doing it !!

That comment wasnt meant for a side to be chosen

 

[SunZoo]

So apparently Lavar Ball is the Bernie Sanders of Sports Industry?

Side Note: 2% of a billion dollars is $20 million.

Yeah...if you can disrupt a billion dollar market for 20 million you did good right?

Side- side note: Lavar does not want the current structure destroyed, he wants to be just as part of the status quo as any other nikka who only sees green.

Who said anything about Lavar trying to destroy the structure, I said the end goal of disruptive income is to OWN a small piece of a huge pie..now the ripple effect could in turn create more competition for companies like Nike. And if he wanted to be a part of the status quo why isn't he?

he sneaker industry would turn into the text book "the most successful survive" and when the dust clears, you'll see the Nike's on top.

Now, I'm not mad at the business venture. However, he's a slimey fukking dude, stop placing the Breh on a pedestal.

Get the fukk outta here dapping all this nonsense, I ain't putting him on shyt...I'm simply acknowledging what I see while a bunch of scared "don't be talkin to massa like that" ass nikkas hide their heads in the sand

He ain't no black leader or none of that, he's just showing nikkas who are paying attention how he's catching his fish. You can take notes or you can be a fukkin hater, crab ass coward trying to dance around the truth out of fear.

The vitriol, the unmitigated gall, this is egregious!