learning to code (3 month course) will land you a 70k job

[Xtraz2]

The dude i know who did this course had an offer for 58 an hour straight out the coding boot camp

He turned down the offer to go somewhere else so they upped the offer to $70 an hour

No experience

 

[RadaMillz]

I am in one of the programs now and let me tell u while I love this field, ur simply not gonna learn everything in 14 weeks at a boot camp and most of the people that get hired are people with prior experience.

There are other programs that teach the same stuff in 6 to 12 month courses. I suggest people to take this path and really take the time to excel in it.

 

[FSP]

You can come out with a 60k job, but you better like what you're doing and you better be prepared to study outside of work. A few of the guys at my job got put on through bootcamps. I think only one of them started from scratch and it was his first time programming through the bootcamp. Yes, you can get a job with those bootcamps, but those bootcamps are rigorous and expensive. In fact, you don't even need a bootcamp. You can get a job if you put up several projects of your own... which is what I did... but that involved me taking a year off of work and studying nonstop in my own time and going through programming books cover to cover.

The thing is, the level of effort you're going to have to put in as a successful programmer is equivalent to the same amount of effort you're going to have to put in to be successful in any field if not greater. I'm telling you, sample programming out first. If you don't like it, then you really don't want to dump your 10,000 or a year down the drain... and with these bootcamps pumping out all of these candidates, the wages are going to start going down unless you are highly skilled, so be ready to put in your work. The money is there, but be ready to work.

Breh. This reminds me tit for tat of the Pick Up Artist craze back in the day. Like, the parallels are insane

 

[Wildin]

You fools are crazy if you think employers will select someone from a bootcamp and no experience over a Computer science degree

Eh most companies have some sort of test that you have to complete to show your skills. Not question and answer but straight coding or programming.

 

[L&HH]

You fools are crazy if you think employers will select someone from a bootcamp and no experience over a Computer science degree

Why would they have to choose you over someone with a comp sci degree? As if that person has difficulty finding a job. The whole reason why opportunities like this are available is because there's a demand.

DC Jobs • /r/DCJobs
nyc jobs • /r/NYCjobs

Btw for those of you who think it isn't possible here's a thread somebody made in /r/learnprogramming trying to "expose" these bootcamps yet every post I've read so far were from people who said they did get pretty good paying jobs pretty soon after they did it. The main things you need to do is A. of course put the time and effort into it and B. research the bootcamp you're interested in to make sure they have a good curriculum.







tl;dr: If you're motivated enough and put in the effort and pick the right bootcamp you can def walk out of there with a pretty good paying job. With that said it's also just as likely that if you learn the shyt on your own and have a nice portfolio/github you can land a job as well.

 

[kevm3]

Here's the thing. These coding bootcamps are pumping out all of these candidates, so you might be able to get a high salary out the gate, but how long are you going to be able to keep that salary? Programming is a very intensive field, and right now there is a rush for programmers, but the lower end of the employment market is going to get flooded with candidates out of these bootcamps. Simple economics dictate that when the supply is greater than the demand, then prices go down.

The compensation for these lower level programmers is going to go down sooner or later. Now some of these guys have these high salaries with only that 3 month bootcamp, but if they're not dedicated and producing, they're going to get washed out.

Realistically, you can only learn so much in 3 months, especially about programming. You can be productive, but you're going to have to put in a lot of work outside of your job exploring concepts to keep up. Technology, especially the programming world, can move very fast. If this isn't something you love, then I'd be wary about entering into the field.

Try it out before you go rushing for programming gold. Try codecademy or some of the simpler 'get started programming' sites to see if it's for you and then that'll help you make an assessment of whether you want to jump into the field.

 

[PikaDaDon]

Even if you learn how to code there's the issue of racism. Hate to invoke the victim mentality but companies are going to hire a black guy. Sure, some companies might have racial quotas where they hire 1 black person per department to give the illusion of diversity. I know alot of black guys who are very talented but can't find work.

 

[AlainLocke]

I will have an MIS degree, I am going to supplement my degree with coding courses and projects...

If nikkas really wanna do this programming shyt....

Go get a computer programming associates degree and just build shyt.

Why shell out 10K for 3 months...and have that company take part of your salary...

Economics doesn't match unless you just desperate as fukk

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

So you can't put up 10,000 to get a return on investment of 70,000?

They said 97% of graduates get a job within 6 months

Coding boot camps are a scam. Please don't be coming around here promoting that ish.

You'd be better off taking the same damn classes at a community college for a quarter of the cost plus you'd be able to transfer it to a legit college

 

[L&HH]

Even if you learn how to code there's the issue of racism. Hate to invoke the victim mentality but companies are going to hire a black guy. Sure, some companies might have racial quotas where they hire 1 black person per department to give the illusion of diversity. I know alot of black guys who are very talented but can't find work.

You know alot of talented black programmers who can't find work?

 

[MrPentatonic]

There are bootcamps near me but almost all of the good ones required you to have programming experience & even have set tasks where they review your github before entrance for evidence of basic understanding of coding. Everybody who I've seen pay for bootcamps were technologically inclined and some had prior work experience too.

Really and truly you can learn all of this for free online if you are an independent learner. Some people find it hard to

Microsoft are giving away 3 month memberships to pluralsight (Want a Developer Program with Everything?), its a great extensive video learning site for web/soft development, IT and everything in between. I'd recommend also learning from a book at the same time to reinforce your learning.

I've been using that + books to learn C#

Even if you learn how to code there's the issue of racism. Hate to invoke the victim mentality but companies are going to hire a black guy. Sure, some companies might have racial quotas where they hire 1 black person per department to give the illusion of diversity. I know alot of black guys who are very talented but can't find work.

If your black, racism is a fact of life.

Never ever let it stop you from having an opportunist mindset in life.

Whoever starts a coding site aimed at inner city minorities can get pretty easy funding from the govt. There are quite a few covering women in tech but there are hardly any for us because there are hardly any black programmers. @PikaDaDon get your friends on this if you know a lot of talented black programmers!

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

Why would they have to choose you over someone with a comp sci degree? As if that person has difficulty finding a job. The whole reason why opportunities like this are available is because there's a demand.

DC Jobs • /r/DCJobs
nyc jobs • /r/NYCjobs

Btw for those of you who think it isn't possible here's a thread somebody made in /r/learnprogramming trying to "expose" these bootcamps yet every post I've read so far were from people who said they did get pretty good paying jobs pretty soon after they did it. The main things you need to do is A. of course put the time and effort into it and B. research the bootcamp you're interested in to make sure they have a good curriculum.







tl;dr: If you're motivated enough and put in the effort and pick the right bootcamp you can def walk out of there with a pretty good paying job. With that said it's also just as likely that if you learn the shyt on your own and have a nice portfolio/github you can land a job as well.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the positive testimonials were put up by people working for said bootcamps

 

[L&HH]

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the positive testimonials were put up by people working for said bootcamps

You can check Quora as well
From a manager's perspective, how well do hires from coding bootcamps turn out compared to new grads out of a 4-year college? - Quora
Are programming bootcamps lying about their average graduate salaries? - Quora
After you graduated from coding bootcamp how long did it take you to get a job and what was your starting salary? - Quora

Instead of us shytting on learning environments like this, we should actually be championing them. A straight to the point, no bullshyt CORE classes and electives or seminars wasting time and money that alot of these degrees make you get. We should have accounting bootcamps, and finance bootcamps, and "analyst bootcamps". How many people do we know complain about how they used none of the stuff they learned in college? You know what's really a scam? Alot of those degrees from 4 year universities. I know too many people who got one of those and are working security. One security job even required you to have a degree? A degree to hold a gun and stand in one spot.

 

[Xtraz2]

You can check Quora as well
From a manager's perspective, how well do hires from coding bootcamps turn out compared to new grads out of a 4-year college? - Quora
Are programming bootcamps lying about their average graduate salaries? - Quora
After you graduated from coding bootcamp how long did it take you to get a job and what was your starting salary? - Quora

Instead of us shytting on learning environments like this, we should actually be championing them. A straight to the point, no bullshyt CORE classes and electives or seminars wasting time and money that alot of these degrees make you get. We should have accounting bootcamps, and finance bootcamps, and "analyst bootcamps". How many people do we know complain about how they used none of the stuff they learned in college? You know what's really a scam? Alot of those degrees from 4 year universities. I know too many people who got one of those and are working security. One security job even required you to have a degree? A degree to hold a gun and stand in one spot.

 

[mr.africa]

Learning to code in three months of solid 12-16 hour-a-day self-study sessions.
Can save you about 14k.
Get the books from the library or $6 each off of Amazon, get a free IDE, get on GitHub and StackOverflow as well as r/Programming, and get to work.

can you give more info??
and do you think that something like this would benefit someone in africa?