madeyoulook
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I'll acknowledge bron if he can win a ring without battier or allen
Lebron and Kobe
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RugbyCardigan
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As I said if you idolize shot chuckers you don't care about efficiency. I have no reason to be mad.Nobody talked about efficiency until John Hollinger tried to turn basketball into a metrics themed sport
By you disagreeing lets me know you were born in the 90s
RugbyCardigan
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MJ is a way more efficient shooter than Kobrick ever was. Move along.
RugbyCardigan
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He's made more clutch shots than Kobe. ''stats is all you used'' lmao what the fukk are you supposed to use?
Stop using shyt you hear on ESPN and actually study basketball.
RugbyCardigan
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He's looking flabby cause he plays with one knee and twice a week and Bosh went from being a first option to a third option. Move along.What's up with the myth that Lebron makes everyone around him better? Where did that come from? Dwayne Wade lookingevery since he came (career lows all around), Bosh with career lows all around, and Mario Chalmers would look much better on any other team.
RugbyCardigan
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Bu-bu--bu he's so clutch
For all Jordan's so called efficiency his best scoring season and Kobe's are pretty close. Efficiency is bs. Statistically Larry Jo Bird puts up better numbers than Lebron without the so called athleticism . But we gonna ignore that right? We penalize Kobe for having crazy numbers with Shaquille even though his numbers got better after Shaquille but we praise LeBron for his numbers improving while playing on a super team. Kobe is better than LeBron. Deal with it.
For all Jordan's so called efficiency his best scoring season and Kobe's are pretty close. Efficiency is bs. Statistically Larry Jo Bird puts up better numbers than Lebron without the so called athleticism . But we gonna ignore that right? We penalize Kobe for having crazy numbers with Shaquille even though his numbers got better after Shaquille but we praise LeBron for his numbers improving while playing on a super team. Kobe is better than LeBron. Deal with it.
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1. You're title was debunked already, another poster and I posted numbers of 30-7-6-2 and that right there proves you wrong, you just don't want to accept it.
2. I thought we were having a healthy debate, why you gotta call me a faqqit breh?
3. You obviously don't know basketball like you think. This thread proves that your a little fukking kid trying to get attention BUT you get mad when everyone doesnt consign your bytchass, as you can see by your response.
4. 2.5? Efficiency? Proud? Maaaaaaaaan shut the fukk up
Yet another faulty premise. Did Bron go out like a bytch in the 2011 Finals? Yes. Was he looking
against SA last year? Yes. Did Kobe look any better against PHX, DET, BOS? (his squad was heavily favored against DET and favored against BOS like that matters but still people like to bring it up when it suit there agenda and they were up 3-1 against PHX)The reality is that Bron and Kobe have a comparable amount of 40 pt playoff games (with one guy playing 7 fewer years), Bron has better elimination game numbers, and he's been asked to do what Kobe does and more in the course of winning his two rings. Kobe's rep as this assassin, killer, ice water in his veins type nikka is based on winning rings early and the confidence that he projects. While Bron's rep as a choker or a guy who wilts under pressure is based upon him not winning rings early and him biting his nails.
My biggest issue with this debate is the level of shifting that goes on. All these people
at efficiency yet I recall Team Kobe being the main ones going on and on about AI's FG% back in the day when AI was outscoring Kobe and winning scoring titles but shooting 40% and below. I remember people saying it was unfair to hold Shaq against Kobe (even though Kobe dikksucking started that whole issue) but now they wanna hold up Fred Sanford Wade and Chris "Spot up 3 pt shooter avg. less rebounds than Lebron" Bosh against Lebron. 
When Bron doesn't lead his team in damn near every statistical category throughout the entire playoffs then maybe we can have that discussion about teammates. People go on and on about Bron's size advantage. He's what...2, 3 inches taller and 40-60 lbs heavier. Kobe is 6 inches taller and 40-60 lbs heavier than AI. AI avg. more points and assists for his career as well. Only area Kobe has him in is FG% and Reb but those don't count since Kobe is bigger right? 
Size matters in this game and the reality is many of the greats wouldn't be as great if they weren't the size that they were, including Kobe. *looks forward to misinterpretation, baseless insults, digression, semantic bs or this just being ignored altogether rather than an actual thoughtful reasoned response*
Did I say anyone was better than Shaq?
Yall nikkas are dense in here. Quote me where I said those words
Secondly, Chris Bosh is better than Pau Gasol and always has been. If you followed basketball before the Heat joined up, you would've known that already
Chris Bosh 7 year Career in Toronto:
20.2 ppg, 9.4 rebs, and 1.2 blks in the regular season.
20.5 ppg, 9.0 rebs, and 1.2 blks in the playoffs
5x All-Star, Finished amongst the top 7 in MVP votes in 2007 and Top 12 in 2010, made All-NBA 2nd Team, led his team to the playoffs twice losing 4-2 and 4-1
Pau Gasol's 7 year Career in Memphis:
18.8 ppg, 8.6 rebs, and 1.8 blks in regular season
20.0 ppg, 6.4 rebs, and 1.5 blks in the playoffs
1x All-Star, Never received an MVP vote in his career, Never made an All-NBA Team, led his team to the playoffs 3 times and never won a game losing 4-0 in all 3 appearances
And what were we discussing again?
Bu-bu-bu LeBron has never had an option as good as Kobe has when Chris Bosh is BETTER than fukking Pau Gasol
but aren't we going to discredit bosh for playing in the weak EAST, like we do for Lebron.
those memphis teams would've been in the conference finals in the east at least, while toronto would miss theplayoffs in the wesst
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