Lebron does not have an elite first step

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Lebron is 6'8 250 all muscle.

The fluidity and speed has he has at his size might be one of kind in the world but you still can't expect him to be as quick as these point guards carrying 50 less pounds on them.

:heh: Exactly, this is so obvious...that is like comparing the first step between a cheetah and a lion.
 

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He had it when he came into the league. Now he's got that shoulder go around a player type move you do in 2K to get around your defender. Still effective:yeshrug:
 

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Lebron is 6'8 and probably 270 lbs. Do you not realize that he's moving a lot more weight than someone like Kyrie?

His first step is insane when you realize he's bigger carrying around weight that most centers are carrying.
 
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Lebron is 6'8 and probably 270 lbs. Do you not realize that he's moving a lot more weight than someone like Kyrie?

His first step is insane when you realize he's bigger carrying around weight that most centers are carrying.


only avg 1 more rebond in his career than kobe @ 205

brons is a below avg rebounder. yoou just proved my case

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only avg 1 more rebond in his career than kobe @ 205

brons is a below avg rebounder. yoou just proved my case

:jawalrus:

Score more points, on higher efficiency, while shooting the same amount of threes on higher efficiency.

Be a SG who can't score or shoot threes better than a 270 SF who also averages more assists than you too.

Kobe isn't as good at scoring as LEBRON. You just proved my case.
 
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Score more points, on higher efficiency, while shooting the same amount of threes on higher efficiency.

Be a SG who can't score or shoot threes better than a 270 SF who also averages more assists than you too.

Kobe isn't as good at scoring as LEBRON. You just proved my case.

bron = peyton mannin

why do regular season stats/sucess matter more than PO performane

using your logic

manning is the goat qb
 

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bron = peyton mannin

why do regular season stats/sucess matter more than PO performane

using your logic

manning is the goat qb

Because not all careers and teams are built equally. Lebron didn't get blessed with a GOAT coach, a huge market that attracts players, the most dominant center since Wilt, and so forth just like Kobe didn't get to play in the East.

You put Kobe on the Cavs and nothkng changes. Kobe scores more but doesn't win any titles when Mike Brown is developing him.

Now put Lebron with the Lakers and have him developed by Phil? Lebron went to Miami, with a good squad and organization that is pretty good at developing and he became a beastly efficient post player and a solid to great three point shooters.

Kobe got 3 rings as a great 2nd option to Shaq. would you really give Lebron props if they won in that Dallas's final and Wadd got the MVP? Does Lebron become a better player because he was carried to a ring in that situation? No.

Rings gotta be looked at in context. I wouldn't say Pippen is better than Kobe either despite Pippen having 6 rings, being an all star, and one of the best at his position when he played.
 
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