LeBron hurt the Lakers big time this year: this is in large part LeBron's fault.

[Mister Terrific]

I been saying this for years. The Kobe/Bron debate is only a contentious thing online. Its not like this in real life in Los Angeles. And its not like like this in real life outside of LA...

People find communities for groupthink online and push it like its real shyt...

Most deranged fanbase in all of sports. They’ve convinced themselves there was a global conspiracy to put LeBron over Kobe. The NBA chose Cleveland and Miami over the second largest media market on the planet. That LeBron didn’t outsell Kobe in Jerseys nearly every year he was in the league and has remained the premier topic of discussion in sports for almost 15 years.


Like NBA hasn’t facilitated every batshyt insane trade of generational super stars to keep the franchise relevant. Like the 2000 Portland, 2002 Kings and 2010 Celtics series weren’t marred by scandalous officiating to put them over the top.

Truly the MAGAts of sports

 

[murksiderock]

He said it's not like this in LA, nobody in LA picking Bron over Kobe. At best they'll say sure he had a better career but give me the damn Mamba

Exactly, so now they gotta build around him like the Mavs were doing

Find the statement I said people in LA would pick LeBron over Kobe. I'll wait...

I'm convinced you lie just to lie and yall throw these misdirections, because it sounds better to act like I'm saying something I never actually said, than to address the truth in what I say...

What I've always said is that Angelenos don't do what yall do on here. They don't do this daily shyt on LeBron shyt or hate watch the Lakers. They don't blame LeBron for the Lakers struggles...

LeBron could never be Kobe to the Lakers but the only Laker heads that hold him in competition with Kobe.....are Kobe fans, not Laker fans. Laker fans appreciate LeBron, the group of people who act like you guys do about Bron are a small group of people...

mf's who not familiar with LA would think you dudes represent the Laker fanbase in LA and yall dont at all...

As far as building the team around Luka, the Lakers should, but the caution there is that the Mavericks did, and still didn't win a championship from it. If the Lakers do everything right and Luka continues to enter the season outta shape, or continues to be a negative defensive player, it's not gonna matter what Pelinka does...

And I'm one of these guys who think yall should hold Pelinka a lot more accountable than yall do, these mf's broke up a championship roster without giving them a real chance to defend themselves. But Pelinka could do everything right and if Luka continues to be limited in those areas, the ceiling of the Lakers will be limited...

Crazy, I didn't see a single LeBron jersey at a show I was just at where there was over 50k in attendance at SoFi Stadium. It was all Kobe, some Luka, few Magic Johnson, Kareem, a Eddie Jones, even a Michael Cooper jersey and tons of Dodgers gear out there. Must have been a off day for LeBron fandom out there I guess

I never said LA is full of LeBron fandom, though. You doing what these other dudes do...

 

[Flywin Lannister]

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1. Agree 100%. LeBron can't be coached by a person who will hold him accountable. So he gets a stooge in and when all else fails the stooge can take the blame, because no matter what he'll get his stats which is enough to prevent people from calling him out.

2. Remember when Kobe released those modelling pics where he looked . I believe that was before a playoff series with Utah and of course those fans used it against him, but I know that stuff motivates Kobe, for LeBron he hates anything that isn't unconditional adoration, but maybe he was trying something new?

3. Bronny sucks and is not a NBA level talent. But from what I've seen there wasn't a player down there. He definitely disrespected the game and the process by getting his son in there but with that roster that's the least of their worries.

Never even considered it that way.

I just thought it was as simple as a) LeBron being dumb enough to think his wine drinking buddy talking all high and mighty made him some sort of basketball savant b) LeGM always trying to maximze the control he has over the team and having free reign

This makes more sense. Dude does NOT want a coach who coaches, he wants a cheerleader.

Kobe and LeBron are NOT built the same. The silly handshakes and dances and all this nonsense.. yeah Kobe was too busy focusing on rings for that.
Trying to be friends with his team mates? FRIENDS? Kobe? No.

And disrespecting the game: walking off and not shaking people's hands because he wants to start his post-game routine? Not cool at all.

 

[Flywin Lannister]

LeBron passed Kobe definitively in 2016. Steph might pass Kobe soon as well.



Kobe might be out the top 15 players list by 2030

I don't know you.

I do not need to know you.

But some things are for sure true:

1. You've never watched Kobe hoop in real life
2. You watch YouTube recaps and say "yes I watched the game"
3. You have absolutely, zero, non-existent, nope level basketball knowledge

Don't talk about basketball, it is not for you, find a sport for you (I suggest NFL, they love nonsensical takes)

 

[Flywin Lannister]

The lakers were a 3 seed in 81 when Houston and the great Moses Malone beat them. Remember that series? Magic was ailing and the 1st round was a best of 3 back then

1980-81 NBA Season Summary | Basketball-Reference.com

Checkout the latest 1980-81 NBA Season Summary including Shooting Stats, Advanced Stats, Conference and Division Standings, Awards, Leagues and more on Basketball-Reference.com

www.basketball-reference.com

Let me see.

NO. No I don't remember. My first memory of the NBA is not MOSES FRICKING MALONE. Karl and Mike Malone are my Malones (pause).

With all due respect my brother!

 

[Flywin Lannister]

Nah it’s over

In an anonymous poll of 142 NBA players conducted by The Athletic, Michael Jordan narrowly edged out LeBron James as the greatest player in NBA history, with 45.9% of the vote to James' 42.1%. This is the first time the lead in the poll was this narrow, with Jordan previously holding a larger lead in previous years.

Who is the NBA GOAT: LeBron or Jordan? For current players, longevity is narrowing the gap

According to our player poll, the greatest of all time hasn't changed. But it's not as clear-cut as it was even a year ago.

www.nytimes.com

Once the memory of Kobe’s aesthetics fade his numbers won’t stand the test of time.

You really think we care about The Athletic and 142 hating NBA players....? Wake up.

Kobe's numbers are: 8, 24 and 5 (rings). That will stand the test of time.

 

[10bandz]

Kobe's career after 30

Kobe was born in 1978. He won 2 titles after 30, the same number Bron has won after 30. Dumbass.

 

[10bandz]

I been saying this for years. The Kobe/Bron debate is only a contentious thing online. Its not like this in real life in Los Angeles. And its not like like this in real life outside of LA...

People find communities for groupthink online and push it like its real shyt...

You're literally making up shyt at this point.

 

[10bandz]

I Learned to just let them live. This the only place this shyt happens. All the Kobe stans I know in Real Life give it up years ago. After 2016 i don't believe I ever had the Kobe vs LeBron debate again. clearly the worst fan base in this site. They think cause the group up and dap each other their right about shyt lol

You live in Detroit and you're currently absent as a father because you're on the run from the law.

 

[Flywin Lannister]

Tywin Lannister would never laugh when in a battle with the opps

I am not laughing.

We got cooked this year.
Unless Pelinka mans up and lets JJ Redikk go asap, and stops being LeGMs messenger...

it really won't matter what happens.. we'll be cooked next year too.

JJ Redikk made no substitutions in an entire Playoff half. And then... put all his hopes on Maxi Kleber. WTF.

 

[10bandz]

Yall nikkas lie like a muthafukka. They say that shiit on sports shows that LeBron not better than Kobe,

Pro athletes are literally on podcasts every day, still comparing Kobe to MJ and saying he's above Bron. Yet according to Murkside, outside in LA everyone casually picks bron over Kobe.

 

[Flywin Lannister]

You live in Detroit and you're currently absent as a father because you're on the run from the law.

Wait is that true!?

@Gotright they got good wifi at the Motel 6!?

 

[10bandz]

Crazy, I didn't see a single LeBron jersey at a show I was just at where there was over 50k in attendance at SoFi Stadium. It was all Kobe, some Luka, few Magic Johnson, Kareem, a Eddie Jones, even a Michael Cooper jersey and tons of Dodgers gear out there. Must have been a off day for LeBron fandom out there I guess

Nah breh, ur just a non black suburbabn dude. In South LA they universally rebuked Kobe years ago and everyone has at least 2 or 3 Bron jerseys in their closet. Don't forget the hundreds of Bron murals being painted in all the true black neighborhoods in Los Angeles. We don't know because we aren't in the hood or around any of the true black people of LA, who again, love Bron more than Kobe and always have.

 

[Flywin Lannister]

The Bron hate is disgusting



vet minimum loading


Gonna get a quality big man and get Number 5 then all y’all fakkits can go in the bathroom and overdose on pills or something

Kobe: 20 seasons, 5 rings, 1 team
Bron: 22 season, 4 rings, 3 teams man gtfoh!!!!!!!!

 

[Mister Terrific]

You really think we care about The Athletic and 142 hating NBA players....? Wake up.

Kobe's numbers are: 8, 24 and 5 (rings). That will stand the test of time.

3 of those rings came as second fiddle to Shaq. Hell his 1st ring he was barely Bo Outlaw