Dwight Howard
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Kobe fans never have to post walls of irrelevant stats to prove a point. Kobe 's track record and respect amongst peers (which bron had never come close to) says it all.
Lebron is now the all time leading scorer in playoff history passing MJ :mjcry:
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LET ME HELP THE KOBE STANS OUT WITH FACTS...
KOBE DIDNT START HIS 1ST 20 PLAYOFF GAMES...
KOBE WAS 18, 19 & 20 IN HIS 1ST 3 PLAYOFFS.
BRON DIDNT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS UNTIL HE WAS 21
SO HES SPENT MORE TIME IN THE PLAYOFFS CLOSER TO HIS PEAK THAN KOBE HAS.
JORDAN HAS 300+ MORE PTS THAN BRON
IN 22 LESS GAMES.
KOBE DIDNT START HIS 1ST 20 PLAYOFF GAMES...
KOBE WAS 18, 19 & 20 IN HIS 1ST 3 PLAYOFFS.
BRON DIDNT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS UNTIL HE WAS 21
SO HES SPENT MORE TIME IN THE PLAYOFFS CLOSER TO HIS PEAK THAN KOBE HAS.
JORDAN HAS 300+ MORE PTS THAN BRON
IN 22 LESS GAMES.
THE MACHINE
night owl
They play more in the paint than his recent centers and his scoring was higher
The trend supports my narrative, not yours
He won a scoring title with Big Z, Drew Gooden and Varejao in the paint in his first stint in Cle. though
Kobe won a scoring title with Kwame Brown, Chris Mihm, and Lamar Odom in the paint
jwonder
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I hope he breaks all of that c00n's records.
soulfuljah
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Supreme365
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Kobe beat 2009 Orlando
Lebron lost to 2009 Orlando
Kobe beat 2010 Boston
Lebron lost to 2010 Boston
Kobe vs 2011 Dallas 24ppg (was washed up)
Lebron vs 2011 Dallas all time Finals choke job
It's not 1 on 1 the lakers beat those squads not Kobe
MalikX
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He says this yet multiple basketball players have chosen Kobe over LeBron.
I guess VegasCac knows more about basketball watching from his mom's living room than guys on the court playing.
Supreme365
Superstar
You do realize he played with a heavier slower paint clogging shaq if you really think that prime shaq would hurt bron's success you don't know basketball
Supreme365
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You're full of shyt - people have responded to this fake stat for years, and you know it. It ignores all of Lebron's 2012 and 2016 playoff wins, and it counts all of Kobe's 1998-2004 wins as his even though Shaq was the team leader, not Kobe. Responding to the same stupid ancient graphic over and over just gets tiring. I'll cut-and-paste:
Lebron's victories over 50-win teams since he first entered playoffs in 2006 (12 series in 13 seasons):
2016 Warriors: 73 wins
2016 Raptors: 56 wins
2015 Hawks: 60 wins
2015 Bulls: 50 wins
2014 Pacers: 56 wins
2013 Spurs: 58 wins
2012 Thunder: (on pace for 58 wins)
2012 Pacers: (on pace for 52 wins)
2012 Celtics: (on pace for 50 wins)
2011 Bulls: 62 wins
2011 Celtics: 56 wins
2007 Pistons: 53 wins
Kobe's victories over 50-win teams since he became the team leader in 2005 (10 series in 12 seasons):
2010 Celtics: 50 wins
2010 Suns: 54 wins
2010 Jazz: 53 wins
2010 Thunder: 50 wins
2009 Magic: 59 wins
2009 Nuggets: 54 wins
2009 Rockets: 53 wins
2008 Spurs: 56 wins
2008 Jazz: 54 wins
2008 Nuggets: 50 wins
Only difference is that Lebron won a title in a lockout year where teams only played 66 games, and Kobe faced a lot of teams that barely hit that arbitrary barrier of "50 wins". Like Kobe beating the 50-win 2008 Nuggets was somehow more impressive than Lebron beating the 49-win 2013 Pacers?
Let's pick a different arbitrary line.
Kobe only beat two 55-win teams! Lebron's beaten eight such teams already.
Kobe beat ZERO 60-win teams! Lebron's beaten three such teams already.
Kobe beat ZERO 70-win teams! We all know what Lebron did.
Lebron averages 23.9 points per 36 in the playoffs, Kobe averages 23.5 points per 36 in the playoffs. So Lebron still has Kobe beat on the per-minute basis too.
And, of course, Kobe ONLY gets that close to Lebron by shooting more. Lebron gets his 23.9 points on 17.7 shots with 48% shooting, Kobe needs 18.7 shots per 36 with 45% shooting to still come up a half-point short.
And the "Kobe also faced tougher competition and its not close" is complete bullshyt and you already know that. Lebron faced far more steller defenses in his playoff career than Kobe ever did. Pistons (3 times), Celtics (4 times), Spurs (3 times), Bulls (4 times), Pacers (4 times), Warriors (2 times) kill the defenses that Kobe faced.
Buried his ass
Supreme365
Superstar
And still almost took the Bulls to a game 7.
Almost means they didn't
3000? lol nah we MJ stans but it's 300.LET ME HELP THE KOBE STANS OUT WITH FACTS...
KOBE DIDNT START HIS 1ST 20 PLAYOFF GAMES...
KOBE WAS 18, 19 & 20 IN HIS 1ST 3 PLAYOFFS.
BRON DIDNT MAKE THE PLAYOFFS UNTIL HE WAS 21
SO HES SPENT MORE TIME IN THE PLAYOFFS CLOSER TO HIS PEAK THAN KOBE HAS.
JORDAN HAS 3000+ MORE PTS THAN BRON
IN 22 LESS GAMES.
But seriously that's what they don't understand. MJ played in 179 playoff games, yet has 5987 points lol. LeGM has played in 201 now and is still 300 points away lol.
Oh just to add that MJ led the league in steals 3 times and his 131 blocks in a season is the most by a guard in NBA history. Did 6'8 athletic freak LeFlop even have a season with 100 blocks?
MJ=GOAT
Dwight Howard
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nikka didnt bury shyt....he had to erase literally 6 years of playoff experience from Kobe to even make it somewhat comparable, and even then....he tries to make a case that the East has been close to the West as far as competitiveness. Anyone that watches basketball knows thats FAR from the truth.