yeah Celtics too.
Lebron James on Channing frye and Richard Jefferson podcast explaining superteams and copping pleas
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Rocket Scientist
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I remember people were hyped about the 2004 Lakers when Payton&Malone joined
pop lost that 13 title by benching duncan. miami should have 1 title if we being realDwight's Magic were 5-3 against Miami and had a couple of games where they blew them the fukk out. That team not even being able to beat Atlanta was why he left. But you're missing my point. Even teams that otherwise weren't very good gave Miami fits because they cold exploit the huge holes in their game. The Magic were so-so but could run up on Miami because they had a big and 3-point shooting.
A completely desolate Bulls team was able to be competitive with Miami in 3 out of 5 games in the '13 playoffs because of size and ball movement.
The Pacers were a sub-50 win team that took them to 7 because of their bigs
and couldn't just skate b
San Antonio had the Heat on the ropes until the most extraordinary circumstances possible, and then annihilated them once the Heat wereand couldn't out-talent teams anymore
number21
Strive for rulership not equality, black man.
Or still two if Bron showed up in 2011. If we're playing the hypothetical game.
big difference in lebron choking and the coach purposely overcoaching his team
number21
Strive for rulership not equality, black man.
Both cost the teams a ring, right?big difference in lebron choking and the coach purposely overcoaching his team
Lucky_Lefty
Dreams Are Colder Than Death...
Can't imagine listening to a podcast with Jefferson who seems like the ultimate cornball
Don't forget the Celtics in the 80s either.
Bird. McHale. Parrish. Maxwell. Johnson. :allgood:
That 03-04 lakers squad was a super team?
Yes.
They were overwhelming favorites to win in 03-04. That team had 4 future HOFers. You could argue that Payton and Malone were past their primes but they were still top players at their respective positions (and advertised accordingly).
I can't take a person seriously if he says that that Lakers team wasn't a superteam at the time.
ShoryukenHaduken
All Star
That heat team never figured out how to involve bosh especially with how weak there bench was...
GPBear
The Tape Crusader
wtf?
Like my favorite one: The 08 Boston Celtics weren't a super team because of Ray, Pierce's and KG's age....Well, how old has Bron been for the past two years? over 30 years of age...a.k.a the same age range as the Boston Big 3. So by ya'lls flimsy logic...The Cavs team only has two prime stars in Kyrie and Love so, what's this noise about a Superteam?
No.
None of what you said about people beating around the bush with superteam's is true.
A superteam is when you have one of the best players in the league either joining a team, or forming a team with two other amazing players of at least all-star quality. More importantly, the "superteam" means it's a team above all other teams. So a super team is any team who when formed is viewed as the out-and-out favorite for basically as long as the squad stays together.
The arguments for why the 08 celtics weren't a superteam (although they tentatively were) and I remember all of this clearly, because my friend Cole is the biggest Celtic stan I know, and he kept us up to date daily on the Celtics until the playoffs, where he bet on them, we called him crazy, and he fukking destroyed and we all went apeshyt over guys like Leon Powe, or Perkins, or Big Baby Davis, or Brian Scalabrine.
The Celtics, weren't the favorites to win that year. None of those three players have ever been considered the greatest player in the league, or in the argument.
Kobe, meanwhile, greatest player in the league. Already had Shaq. Then they pick up two other former all-stars. Yeah they were old as fukk, but that doesn't negate the fact that the 04 lakers were obviously viewed as the above all favorites.
Miami Heat, overwhelming favorites.
Cleveland Cavs/GSW - co-overwhelming favorites in both their respective conferences, GSW warriors are just better.
Meanwhile, I don't think when Clyde Drexler joined Barkley in Houston they were viewed as the league favorites.
With this definition, teams like the 60s Celtics, and the 70s Lakers were superteams.
80s Celtics-Lakers were superteams (the celtics themselves make this point, they had like 5 hall of famers and Bill Walton off the bench, but nobody wants to bring this up and say they should give their rings back...)
This is why an 08 celtics team, or a 2010s Clippers team, or a early 2010s Brooklyn Nets teams aren't super teams. They have marquee players, but none of them were ever considered the greatest player in the league. Additionally, they didn't form those squads on their own, which plays a factor into what a superteam is, because if you're the best player in the league, you generally get to pick which team you play for on some level.
Lebron saying he's never played for a superteam, is honestly so fukking funny. The way that guy views himself is a joke. Maybe the bad hair transplants went to his brain.