LeBron Needing 2 Other All-stars Help To Win Ships.....

[Malik]

And nikkas keep saying "Kobe had 3 All-Stars".....nah nikka


Kobe and Dwight Howard were All-Stars.

Pau Gasol aint been an All-Star since the 2011 season and Steve Nash wasnt an All-Star player this year.


LeBron is playing on a team with 2 other All-Stars playing with him every single night

And a HOF 3 point shooter who's open all night. Then you got Mike Miller, Chalmers, Lewis and Battier if Ray's off. Then you got Birdman playing cleanup down low. If the league forced teams to play players their market value, Miami couldn't keep half these players.

 

[YouLoveMe]

nikkas who don't know bball 1 starred my thread.

 

[BlackFeet]

nikkas who know bball 5 starred my thread.

FTFY

 

[yawn]

Dog, as long as you keep pretending that Kobe and Jordan playing with their teams is the same as Bron leaving to play with Wade & Bosh & Ray Allen, you'll keep getting ignored. It's not the same.

Organizations are the difference. Bulls drafted great and the NBA helps the Lakers in trade negotiations

Cavs drafted bad and spent money on role players no one wanted to play in Cleveland and $16 million on Jamison

You expect him to stay and play with Jamison, Williams , Varejao and randoms

LeBron’s teams in Cleveland had 60 plus wins and you’re saying he wasn’t surrounded by ‘talented’ players? It seems like you’re saying LeBron didn’t have any help. Are you telling me LeBron won all those 60 plus games by himself?

Mavs team routinely won 60+ games and never won anything were they extremely talented or overrated?

Cavs after Lebron had a historic dropoff in wins due to Bron leaving. Same team just minus Bron

 

[tae29]

if lebron had a chance to play with prime shaq he would of never left but you are fooling your self if you dont think kobe would of never left that cavs team

 

[$lim]

i said this after the Pacers series. i wasn't impressed with them beating us at all. i feel like you SHOULD be doing that with the roster you have so what's the big deal? Miami should at minimum be in the finals every season as long as the 3 stooges are playing like they should. you have a potential GOAT of all time player, another top 5 SG of all time, a top 20 player, then this year you add the greatest 3 pt shooter in NBA history. cats kill me being impressed when Miami wins 2 titles in 3 seasons. OF COURSE THEY WIN, WHY WOULDN'T THEY?

 

[Malik]

Organizations are the difference. Bulls drafted great and the NBA helps the Lakers in trade negotiations

Cavs drafted bad and spent money on role players no one wanted to play in Cleveland and $16 million on Jamison

You expect him to stay and play with Jamison, Williams , Varejao and randoms


Mavs team routinely won 60+ games and never won anything were they extremely talented or overrated?

Cavs after Lebron had a historic dropoff in wins due to Bron leaving. Same team just minus Bron

I expected Bron to go to Chicago and build with Rose/Deng or to New York to build with Amare. Both scenarios would've gave him enough talent to get it done. I didn't expect him to join up with Wade, Bosh & Ray Allen. It's wack. No team can beat them unless they got a huge lead and it's not because LeBron all of sudden became Jordan reincarnated, it's cuz you got 5 guys who can score 15-30pts at will and you have to double 2 of them. 3 if Bosh is on. You leaving two nikkas wide fukkin open every time.....one of them being the best three point shooter to ever play Trying to keep a little 5 point lead against that type of team is like tryna hold water...too many superstars to guard If Kobe's off, the Lakers will have a tough night. If Bron's off, who cares. Wade will go for 30, Bosh for 22, Ray Mike & Battier for 8 threes combined

 

[kidsinamerica_]

Organizations are the difference. Bulls drafted great and the NBA helps the Lakers in trade negotiations

Cavs drafted bad and spent money on role players no one wanted to play in Cleveland and $16 million on Jamison

You expect him to stay and play with Jamison, Williams , Varejao and randoms


Mavs team routinely won 60+ games and never won anything were they extremely talented or overrated?

They were talented.

Cavs after Lebron had a historic dropoff in wins due to Bron leaving. Same team just minus Bron.

Minus Shaq, Ilgauskas, Varejão, Mo Will, Delonte West... With an addition of rookies, D-League players, guys that were being shuffled in on a ten day contract, and a former coach of the year being fired. But yeah, same team just minus LeBron.

 

[Jax]

He wants red bars to complete his set, everybody green him!

 

[BlackFeet]

He wants red bars to complete his set, everybody green him!

 

[Street Knowledge]

Kobe only needs one

 

[Street Knowledge]

So Kobe didnt make the playoffs in 2006 and 2007 with a starting lineup/bench of:

C Kwame Brown
PF Lamar Odom
SF Luke Walton
SG Kobe Bryant
PG Smush Parker

Bench:
Sasha Vujacic
Brian Cook
Devean George
Ronny Turiaf
Aaron McKie
Jim Jackson
Jordan Farmar
Shammond Williams
Mo Evans
And a 18/19 year old Andrew Bynum

Lets look at some of the team shall we?

-Smush Parker: Plays 34 MPG and starts all 82 games in 2006 while averaging 12-4. He averaged 3 PPG the previous year. In 2007 he averaged 11-3 on 30 MPG and 82 starts with Kobe. Then in 2008 without Kobe he plays in 28 games (2 starts) and sucks. That was his last season in the NBA. So 2006 Smush was just 2 years away from being out of the NBA.
-Chris Mihm: Scores a career high 10.2 PPG and 6.3 Reb. Starts 56 games and plays 26 MPG. He also started 75 games in 2005. He doesn't play in the 2007 season and for the rest of his career he plays in just 41 games and averages about 10 MPG
-Plays 72 games (49 starts) and averages 7-7(career high) In 2007 he averages 8-6 on career high FG% and TS%.
-Brian Cook: He averages 8-3 while starting 46 games and playing 19 MPG. This season was a career high for him in MPG and FG%. In 2007 he averaged 7-3 in 15 MPG and shot 45%. He shot .388 since 2008. After the Lakers got rid of him in 2008, he started 0 games in his career
-Devean George: Averages 6-4, 40%, in 22 MPG. He leaves the Lakers and joins the Mavs in 07 and averaged 6-4, .395 on 21 MPG. After that he averaged 3.7 PPG (.357), 3.4 PPG (.380), 5.4 PPG (.432) and he hasn't played in the NBA since 2010
-LaRon Profit: plays 11 MPG and averages 4.2 PPG on a career high .476 FG% in 2006. He never plays in an NBA game after this season.

See the constant theme? Lots of bums who either played like bums or had career years because of the attention Kobe attracted. It was a miracle they made the playoffs in the west with that lack of talent. It should be noted Lamar odom has been arguably the worst player in the league when he left Kobe's side in 2012

 

[YouLoveMe]

He wants red bars to complete his set, everybody green him!

That reverse psychology ain't gone work with me. I told nothing but the truth about bron and you guys know i know what i'm talking about. He's a great player indeed but him being better than MJ or Kobe?? Nah.

How is he sooooo great but have an average jumpshot, offensive limited and his heart pumps cinnamon?

Ash from Pokemon got more guts than this dude.

 

[KingJudah]

It's deliberate. Stern was trying to sell the Hornets but he also has/had a shytload of money invested in LeBron's success. Can't nobody tell me that Chris Paul shyt wasn't foul play. You had the NBA commissioner telling a team their trade was denied because he ain't like it



Kobe, Dwight & Chris Paul > Kobe, Dwight & Steve Nash

Keep trolling through. It's not about Kobe. I hope any other team comes up with a big three just to make it competitive. LA tried and Stern was a bytch about it. At this point I don't care who does it. You can't let Miami hoard all the talent then interfere when other teams try to close the gap. I hope Melo, Paul and Howard figure out how to come together.

REAL shyt bruh. WORD

 

[tae29]

That reverse psychology ain't gone work with me. I told nothing but the truth about bron and you guys know i know what i'm talking about. He's a great player indeed but him being better than MJ or Kobe?? Nah.

How is he sooooo great but have an average jumpshot, offensive limited and his heart pumps cinnamon?

Ash from Pokemon got more guts than this dude.

lebron is still improving hes not done yet