LeBron Strikes Back: 'Rings Not Everything'

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

Man, you don't know how good Wilt, Kareem, etc really was.

You might have seen some highlights or read some stats, but there is no way you can legitimately say how good they were without watching them play in the context of their careers.

I guess theres no way to say how bad slavery really was then since we can only read about it.

 

[CrimsonTider]

shut up.

Either way,even if i dont count them blacc n white nikkas.
He(lebron) stil isnt the best player in NBA history, or close to it.

The thing is, when u compare the very best of the best, no one player is just far and ahead of the rest of them. So when it comes down to the top 10, i really rank them off accomplishments by that point. And records.
Lebron is 1-2 in the finals, but he has a nice set of Mr.NBA awards, aka MVP.

As far as just pure basketball tho, he still not number 1.
I would say Kobe, and Larry Bird are my 2 favorite basketball players when it comes down to just skill.

Lebron >> Kobe

and that is the only thing that matters

I guess theres no way to say how bad slavery really was then since we can only read about it.

How is this the same thing, nikka?

Kobe stans failing at everything

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

How is this the same thing, nikka?

Kobe stans failing at everything

You weren't there to see it. Same thing you're telling other dude. Since he didn't see it, how can he evaluate it? Next time you troll, try harder.

 

[Savior]

Lebron >> Kobe

and that is the only thing that matters



How is this the same thing, nikka?

Kobe stans failing at everything

Breh ur argument is just as stupid...u cant speak on any player that u didn't see play live? So no one on here should ever speak on any player who played before 95 or so...do u know how dumb that sounds?

 

[CrimsonTider]

Breh ur argument is just as stupid...u cant speak on any player that u didn't see play live? So no one on here should ever speak on any player who played before 95 or so...do u know how dumb that sounds?

I'm not saying that, What I am saying is how in the hell can you say a player you never seen is worse or better than players you have seen.

You don't see how illogical that is?

 

[Savior]

I'm not saying that, What I am saying is how in the hell can you say a player you never seen is worse or better than players you have seen.

You don't see how illogical that is?

You can look at it that way but then who is qualified to make all time lists? Basketball historians? People over 50? Its not that hard to rank someone like Wilt or Kareem as top 10 all time if you do a little homework. It ain't like he was namedropping some no name niccas from the 50's

 

[CrimsonTider]

You can look at it that way but then who is qualified to make all time lists? Basketball historians? People over 50? Its not that hard to rank someone like Wilt or Kareem as top 10 all time if you do a little homework. It ain't like he was namedropping some no name niccas from the 50's

I personally think the list are asinine

Comparing players from different generations is a complete waste of time.

 

[iPod Raheem 2.0]

If lebron retired today his legacy would be no where near michael's. but that doesn't mean anything because he still is in his prime and healthy. but comparing them now puts the odds greatly in MJ's favor. even kobe and Duncan>>>> at this point. I mean realistically how can lebron be greater than duncan right now when duncan has had more success and even swept lebron out the finals not to mention to this day still has a better reg season record than lebron.

I prefer to make comparisons in hindsight. after retirement the discussion is much simpler. after he retires lebron will prolly have had a better career than all of them. except maybe Jordan

This is the Biggie-Jay argument (I swear rap and sports are so synonymous ). LeBron right now is Biggie. ( Stay with me) All-world talent/skills but not the long career full of accomplishments, just a short one. MJ is more like Jay. ( Stay with me) All-world talent/skills and a long career full of accomplishments. Here's the thing, though, Bron's career ain't over yet. He's only half-way through his career. Health-permitting, we'll see if he can accomplish more than MJ and others. Nevertheless, while it's unfair to compare careers when you have one player in the middle of his career while others done or almost done, you can definitely compare the talent/skills whenever you want as long as you've been able to see all players in their prime. And if you are able to do that, it's easy to compare a LeBron to a Jordan or a Kobe. The scary thing here is that we haven't seen LeBron's full prime. He's still getting better.

And just to be extra clear I'm not saying Bron fathered MJ, as some think Biggie fathered Jay. We know, if anything, Bron would be influenced by MJ.

Typical loser response from a fakkit ass chump like Lebron.

I bet it eats away at Jordan every day that he doesn't have more rings than Russell. You know Kobe is gonna die trying to get that sixth ring to tie Jordan.

But bytch ass Lebron? "Rings don't matter" that's why he'll never be the greatest. fukkin chump.

Once, again, learn to read. You did read the very brief two paragraphs I highlighted...right? He didn't say, "rings don't matter." He basically said rings are not the most important factor in determining whether a player is great.

 

[BrothaZay]

Lebron >> Kobe

and that is the only thing that matters



How is this the same thing, nikka?

Kobe stans failing at everything

When it comes down to skill?
Kobe is a better shooter, more versatile scorer.(better iMO)
Better passer, man 2 man defender. How is lebron better?

 

[BrothaZay]

The thing about Lebron stans is that you guys ASSUME to much.
Yes, he is having a great season, and played well in the playoffs last year. Right now lebron isnt just in his prime, he's at his PEAK. Similiar to kobe in 06. This season for Lebron is like Kobes 06 season, on an individual basis. Obviously lebron has the better team(and teammates)
Lebron is just now started to build his legacy, but if he were to retire today, he is not a top 5 player of alltime.

 

[iPod Raheem 2.0]

The thing about Lebron stans is that you guys ASSUME to much.
Yes, he is having a great season, and played well in the playoffs last year. Right now lebron isnt just in his prime, he's at his PEAK. Similiar to kobe in 06. This season for Lebron is like Kobes 06 season, on an individual basis. Obviously lebron has the better team(and teammates)
Lebron is just now started to build his legacy, but if he were to retire today, he is not a top 5 player of alltime.

How's he at his peak when he's still getting better??

 

[BrothaZay]

How's he at his peak when he's still getting better??

 

[iPod Raheem 2.0]

 

[iPod Raheem 2.0]

He is not even close to being in the convo for the best ever.

Kareem, Jordan, Magic, Russell. Its a short list and hes not there.

No Wilt? No Shaq? No...let's just say you left alot of deserving people out of the convo.

You're just another in the moment diccrider fam.

Have you forgotten less than 2 years ago, Lebron(in his prime) was out scored by a bench player in the finals?

My top players alltime:
Jordan
Kobe
Wilt
Bird
Magic
Kareem
Hakeem
Shaq
Duncan

Not a bad list. I would probably add Bron, Barkley, Zeke, Malone, and the Big O.

 

[Reggie]

he didnt choke in 2010. the Celtics were just better.

Nah bruh that's the year Delonte supposedly boned his mom, and after that story was leaked he just stopped playing at that point. No one can say Bron didn't flat out quit that year.