Lebron's Defense on Rose in that 4th Quarter :ehh:

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Shut yo old Alzheimer's ass up:mjlol:, nikka didn't even know shyt about the BD's and the GD's and he supposed to be from Chicago :mjlol::mjlol:.. Luol was never some great iso player, but yall capping acting like he Danny Green with the handle :mjlol: ... His constant curling, cutting, and wet midrange jumper off the pick is what saved Thib's ass when Rose got hurt. You don't become a 17-20 PPG wing player in this league without some sort of resemblance of an iso game

He's an idiot. Do you really think if this nikka wasn't a mod he wouldn't be in the red with the rest of the shyt posters? Honestly, would sclit be any different as a mod than CHICAGO? I don't know why @Brooklynzson hasn't stripped his stupid ass of his moderation rights yet. @CHICAGO, I don't know how the fukk your wife deals with you but for the sake of your daughter's well being, get some help and log off nikka.
 

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The worst thing Paxson and Forman did that year was not get another ball handler.

The role players were solid but none of them could create their own shot.
 

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Deng could create his own shot out of the post, not as effectively off the dribble but he was a decent ballhandler. Boozer could handle the ball and create too.

Take a look at these 2008 scouting reports and tell me if they match the narrative:


Boozer had been a consistent 20 and 10 on 55% shooting guy the previous four years and had already been the #2 on a WCF team (averaging 22 and 12 on 53% shooting against the Spurs in the WCF with Deron as the #1).

Deng had been a consistent 18 and 7 guy on 47% shooting the previous four years, back in 2007 when he was the #1 guy on a playoff team he averaged 26 and 9 on 58% shooting while sweeping the Wade/Shaq Heat in round 1 and then 20 and 9 on 48% shooting against Tayshun Prince defense in the ECSF. More recently in the 2010 1st round against LeBron's Cavs he'd put up 19 and 5 on 46% shooting while defending LeBron on the other end.

You're telling me that those can't be your 2nd/3rd options with a GOAT-level point guard as your #1 and a league-best defense behind you? Plus Korver and Bogans both averaged 42% from three in the 2011 playoffs, they just didn't get as many shots as they should have. They shot worse in the ECF but both still better than Rose. There's no reason he should have been taking 24 shots a game while shooting 35% (23% from three) when as you point out they were always doubling him.

I don't think enough attention is paid to how poorly Chicago's offense underperformed. The talent was there.

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Shut yo old Alzheimer's ass up:mjlol:, nikka didn't even know shyt about the BD's and the GD's and he supposed to be from Chicago :mjlol::mjlol:.. Luol was never some great iso player, but yall capping acting like he Danny Green with the handle :mjlol: ... His constant curling, cutting, and wet midrange jumper off the pick is what saved Thib's ass when Rose got hurt. You don't become a 17-20 PPG wing player in this league without some sort of resemblance of an iso game

He's an idiot. Do you really think if this nikka wasn't a mod he wouldn't be in the red with the rest of the shyt posters? Honestly, would sclit be any different as a mod than CHICAGO? I don't know why @Brooklynzson hasn't stripped his stupid ass of his moderation rights yet. @CHICAGO, I don't know how the fukk your wife deals with you but for the sake of your daughter's well being, get some help and log off nikka.
They just acting fools, anyone other than LeBron and they coping mad pleas. Boozer a guaranteed 20+ppg before he got to Chicago. 22ppg on 53% in the WCF against Duncan. Deng gave them 17ppg in THIS ECF RIGHT HERE to match Wade's 18ppg. Had 23ppg in the last postseason before Rose came.

But they can't be the #2/3 for a GOAT scoring PG when you're playing a team that only broke 85 points in 2 out of 5 games? :comeon:

How many points SHOULD a D-Rose-Deng-Boozer led offense be able to score against a Miami team starting washed-ass Bibby at the point? :sas1::sas2:
 

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THIS CLOWN POSTED
A FEW GAME WINNERS FROM 3 DIFFERENT SEASONS AND DONT EVEN KNOW IT.

And 2 were layups and the other was a wide open jumper after a kickout.:unimpressed:

Cats really acting like Rose/Lu/Boozer was equal to Bron/Wade/Bosh:mjlol:

The best defense in the league held the Heat's 3rd best offense in the league to 89ppg that series, but somehow there's something wrong if the Heat's 5th best defense in the league holds the 11th best offense to 87ppg.:russ:
 
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He used to give Yao that work in his Utah days. It's a mystery what happened to him in Chicago
Maybe him shooting all those long twos was to free up the paint for Rose. I don’t know what happened. :patrice:
 

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Maybe him shooting all those long twos was to free up the paint for Rose. I don’t know what happened. :patrice:
21% of his shots were from mid-range his first year as a Bull.

That number went to 30% the year Rose was out.
 

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Bron's defense on Rose gets downplayed for team defense yet I'm sure the Coli won't say this about the Mavericks' defense on him :unimpressed:
The Bulls get called a one man team and them losing is rationalized but they won’t do the same for LeBron when he loses to SA, GS, Orlando, Detroit, Boston teams with multiple All-Star level players on “one man teams”.

Oochie Wally or One Mic as they like to say

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Bron's defense on Rose gets downplayed for team defense yet I'm sure the Coli won't say this about the Mavericks' defense on him :unimpressed:
*Heat team defense shuts down D. Rose*
Coli: It was the Heat's team defense that shut Rose down, not Lebron:ufdup:

*Mavs team defense shuts down Lebron*
Coli: It was JJ Barea/Jason Kidd/Shawn Marion/Jason Terry that shut down Lebron:troll:
 

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:mjlol:ITS AMAZING THIS THREAD GETS MADE
CONSIDERING JASON TERRY TORCHED BRON
IN THE VERY NEXT SERIES
WHEN THE WHOLE TEAM COULDNT
FOCUS ON ONE DUDE AND HELP HIM ON DEFENSE.

ALL THAT BRON STOPPING ROSE
shyt GOT PUT TO SLEEP
REAL FAST ON THE OG COLI...

NOW WE PLAYING GAMES AGAIN.
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:mjlol:ITS AMAZING THIS THREAD GETS MADE
CONSIDERING JASON TERRY TORCHED BRON
IN THE VERY NEXT SERIES
WHEN THE WHOLE TEAM COULDNT
FOCUS ON ONE DUDE AND HELP HIM ON DEFENSE.

ALL THAT BRON STOPPING ROSE
shyt GOT PUT TO SLEEP
REAL FAST ON THE OG COLI...

NOW WE PLAYING GAMES AGAIN.
:devil:
:evil:

Bron shutting DRose shyt down still a fact, being held to 1-15 by one guy is still pretty bad.

Bron went mental midget and JT was a much better jump shooter than Rose as well. Also JT lit up everyone else as well
 

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Bron shutting DRose shyt down still a fact, being held to 1-15 by one guy is still pretty bad.

Bron went mental midget and JT was a much better jump shooter than Rose as well. Also JT lit up everyone else as well

JT WAS BLOWING BY BRON WITH EASE
DUE TO THE FACT THERE WERENT
4 PLAYERS WAITING BEHIND HIM
TO LOAD UP WITH THE HELP.


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Locking up is a team effort. Jason Terry shytted on Bron particularly in game 5 but at one point in that series he was frustrated by LeBron’s defense and Terry wasn’t his main assignment he got him mostly off switches and in 4Q’s...
Mavs guard Jason Terry frustrated by LeBron's defense

By Shandel Richardson, Sun Sentinel
The Mavericks were victim to the first surprise attack of the NBA Finals.

Now, they consider themselves prepared. It caught the Mavs off guard when the Heat put forward LeBron James on guard Jason Terry in the second half. After Terry had a solid first half, James helped hold him scoreless the remainder.

It was a big adjustment, something we weren't prepared for," Terry said. "We've seen it, we made our adjustment and we'll be prepared in Game 2."

In reality, the move should not have been much of a surprise. The Heat have utilized James' versatility all season, playing him against all five positions. He guarded Boston Celtics guard Rajon Rondo in the second round and Chicago Bulls guard Derrick Rose in the Eastern Conference finals.


With him, he has a size advantage and he uses his strength very well," Terry said. "But he's still quick. He's still quick enough to stay in front of you. But, again, this was the first time we've seen it against us. And so now we know what to do and made our adjustment. We'll see if it works."

The 6-foot-7 James has made it difficult when guarding shorter opponents.

You look at his body, he's amazing," Mavs forward Dirk Nowitzki said. "[James is] 6-8, 260 or whatever and he moves like a football running back. He can guard any position on the floor."

Mavs coach Rick Carlisle said better spacing and more screens could create space for Terry when guarded by James. That means they will have to do a better job with offensive execution, which they struggled with at times against the Heat's team defense.

"We've got to make sure that everybody is in the right place," Carlisle said. "It's difficult and they're paying (Terry) a high compliment by putting their best defensive player on him. And I think that's something that tells you how important they feel [Terry] is to us."

Terry is a better shooter than Rose and was on a mean hot streak all playoffs long. Miami’s defensive focus was Dirk who they held to 41% shooting.

I don’t know what the point of Juelzing is just give credit 1 of 15 in games decided in 4Q’s. If it was any other player y’all wouldn’t do this.

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